Hiding Rules

[Madhouse159]

Hi,

 

For some time i have been considering hiding a cache up a tree, I have read through the guidelines and it doesnt appear to be any rule against it. (the tree i have in mind is well established).

 

What do you think about climbing a tree to get to a cache?

[Lactodorum]

Hi,

 

For some time i have been considering hiding a cache up a tree, I have read through the guidelines and it doesnt appear to be any rule against it. (the tree i have in mind is well established).

 

What do you think about climbing a tree to get to a cache?

 

Absolutely fine - go for it!

[Not So Lost Puppies]

It is fine, just make sure to use a proper terrain rating for it

 

I think climbing a tree is pretty difficult terrain, at least a 3. If it is easy to get to the tree (such as normally a 1.5 terrain), then the terrain rating should give someone the idea to go up.

[Madhouse159]

Ok, im still a little worried about damage to the tree but i will check it reguarly and remove cache if it starts to look a little worse for wear.

[+Cave Troll and Eeyore]

Hows about making it so that cachers can find a fine cord at ground level that will allow them to lower the cache down then raise it back up once they have traded an d signed the log book ?

[+Mr'D]

Hows about making it so that cachers can find a fine cord at ground level that will allow them to lower the cache down then raise it back up once they have traded an d signed the log book ?

Now where did that idea come from...

 

Elimination by numbers (Gorrick Plantation)

 

[+purple_pineapple]

Hows about making it so that cachers can find a fine cord at ground level that will allow them to lower the cache down then raise it back up once they have traded an d signed the log book ?

Now where did that idea come from...

 

Elimination by numbers (Gorrick Plantation)

 

 

not the cache i was thinking of, but not posting which one that is! and i hope nobody else spoils the surprise... if you've done it, you'll know it!

 

Oh, and go for the tree! love the idea - as long as it is climbable, I love an excuse to act like a kid!

[+Cave Troll and Eeyore]

Hows about making it so that cachers can find a fine cord at ground level that will allow them to lower the cache down then raise it back up once they have traded an d signed the log book ?

Now where did that idea come from...

 

Elimination by numbers (Gorrick Plantation)

 

 

Saw similar at a North West cache some time ago.

[+wigglesworth]

I had major problems climbing to the top of a footpath sign (I kept sliding down) so a tree will be an even bigger challenge.

I know a number of cachers who would be unable to climb a tree - is it possible to have an alternaive locaton for less nimble cachers?

 

Peter

[Madhouse159]

Well, excited by all the replys i went out into the garden and slapped some camo on my latest experiment!

 

i also worked out a clever way of fixing it to things! When the cache becomes active it will be called "Inner Child Required". the tree wont be the very easiest of climbs but i remember first conquering it when i was 8 years old so it should be possible for most to do, if you do happen to have a few miles on the clock though send your grandchildren up!

 

The idea is that it should look slightly out of place and therefore easy for a cacher to spot however a muggle shouldnt realise that its not part of the tree. Ill have to place it so that some unlucky child doesnt try to use it as a handhold!

 

yey! yey yey yey!

 

Well im going to place the cache tomorow morning. wish me luck!

Edited April 28, 2006 by Madhouse159

[+The Mars Bars]

Hi,

 

For some time i have been considering hiding a cache up a tree, I have read through the guidelines and it doesnt appear to be any rule against it. (the tree i have in mind is well established).

 

What do you think about climbing a tree to get to a cache?

 

Done one like this in the UK already...

 

One in Germany that I looked at (but didn't find, or attempt to find) requires ropes and climbing/abseiling experience...

 

As long as you make it clear what is involved I can't see a problem.

 

Cheers

Dave

[+rutson]

Oh, and go for the tree! love the idea - as long as it is climbable, I love an excuse to act like a kid!

 

Eh? We need excuses? No-one told me

[+wigglesworth]

I really like the idea of something looking slightly out of place when searching for the cache. Most of the time this is a huge pile of sticks but more subtle efforts are welcome.

Peter

[+Cushag]

Good idea. Please could you make it obvious on the cache page that cachers who are not as fit as others may not be able to log the cache. I would not like it very much if I arrived at cache spot and found I could not reach it. I have done a 5/5 on my own but it was rather foolhardy and a long story. I also found a cache last year but had to wait until a tall friend came to visit to reach it for me. I do often cache on my own and at 5'3" and not so young, I lose out on the agility stakes. PS. Floor level ones are not that easy either, it's not the getting down , it's getting back up! As long as we know that it's high up a tree all is OK.

[+JollyJax]

Whats all the fuss about .. there are many arboreal caches and some that even my granny could reach ... like this one

[Madhouse159]

Im only 14 and not too tall, i left the cache on what i would call "Level1" of a tree, which is basically the first group of branches that have to be climbed, this is only about 3 meters off the ground (so impossible to grab from the ground) but you only have to climb 1 level of the tree to reach it.

[+Woody's Wanderers]

One of our caches is hidden in a tree. Not much of a climb though! Ditto one of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs in Box Hill.

 

Go fo it, should be fun!

[+Ashaaria]

Sounds fun - i've had to climb trees to find caches by SP and 2202, but it does help when you know there's someone to catch you

[SlytherinAlex]

Hi,

 

For some time i have been considering hiding a cache up a tree, I have read through the guidelines and it doesnt appear to be any rule against it. (the tree i have in mind is well established).

 

What do you think about climbing a tree to get to a cache?

The first one I found up a tree was about 12 feet from the ground. No way I was going up there. Three hits with a nice sized rock brought it down though. I left it 7ft up.

 

a.

[+Hillhappy1]

Alternatively try doing something like this -

 

Out On A Limb

 

Great fun, if you don't mind looking a little stupid.

[+Jango & Boba Fett]

There is another approach where it is possible for the cacher to lower the cache out of the tree. Works best when the thing up the tree doesn't look out of place - so an ammo box on the end of an orange climbing rope would be a no no.

 

There are at least two such clever caches I know of in East Anglia but having found them I've sworn to the no pics no hints requests of the cachers!

 

But think about it, what could be up a tree and how would you organise things so that just finding the lowering mechanism would not give the whole game away.

[alistair_uk]

I was in favour of placing caches in trees and would encourage it but after some thinking today I am reconsidering this and may well be suggesting not placing caches in trees ever.

 

Alistair, who fell out of a tree today.

[+G Force]

Alistair, who fell out of a tree today.

 

ROFL

[adrianjohn]

Alistair, who fell out of a tree today.

 

ROFL

 

I doubt very much that he was!

[+Jilly & Gray]

We have also placed a cache up a tree and we strategically placed logs underneath for a step. No negative responses so far, only positive feedback from cachers who thought it a gr8 hiding place instead of under the usual pile of sticks

[alistair_uk]

Alistair, who fell out of a tree today.

ROFL

I doubt very much that he was!

 

I was ROF

[adrianjohn]

Alistair, who fell out of a tree today.

ROFL

I doubt very much that he was!

 

I was ROF

 

Was that ROFC or ROFY

[alistair_uk]

Was that ROFC or ROFY

 

ROFM (moaning). Some ROFS might have happened, but nothing that strong.

 

It gets worse though, I have just worked out it was my 250th find. The next thing you know I will be on You've Been Framed caught on video by some stealthy passer by. I'm not paranoid you know, the world really has got it in for me.

[+Wizard William and Team Morris]

As a qualified tree surgeon I would suggest that many trees that look very safe for climbing are often not. Lots of growth from cuts to the tree wheter natural or man made cannot anchor to the wood but will often look very safe to the untrained eye.

Another cautionary note - even trained tree surgeons cannot climb trees without extra specialist qualifications and this is with good reason.

However I don't like the idea of giving up all that is fun because of an element of danger so heed the warnings and do what you enjoy.

Should you need any further advice on trees before hiding or seeking a cache please feel free to e-mail me. If I can help. I will.

[+Kitty Hawk]

I've done a cache recently that was a good 15ft up a tree, It was disguised and to be lowered by a string that ran up the trunk through those nails that are bent into a U shape.

 

We enjoyed it. I'd say go for it.

[+John Stead]

Good idea. Please could you make it obvious on the cache page that cachers who are not as fit as others may not be able to log the cache. I would not like it very much if I arrived at cache spot and found I could not reach it. I have done a 5/5 on my own but it was rather foolhardy and a long story. I also found a cache last year but had to wait until a tall friend came to visit to reach it for me. I do often cache on my own and at 5'3" and not so young, I lose out on the agility stakes. PS. Floor level ones are not that easy either, it's not the getting down , it's getting back up! As long as we know that it's high up a tree all is OK.

That rings only too true for me - but I did take a short ladder to a cache a few days ago and know another where I will have to do the same if I am to reach it, and I did try climbing the tree first time round! Now explaining to someone why I am carrying a ladder near the back of someone's house is something I am working on!