+scavok Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 I recently found a cache that had been muggled really badly. The smashed container had no lid to be seen and I managed to find the log book in the wind. I gathered what I could, including the log and container and knew that a rainstorm was on its way so I took everything with me, logged the find telling exactly what I did and emailed the cache owner. I figured he would rather have the log book and swag and the TB owners not have them lost than just leaving them all where they were. I was also concerned that if I didn't do anything that the next finder would blame me for it getting muggled. Did I do the right thing? This is the first time I've come across this. BTW, mods feel free to move this to the 'getting started' section if that's where it belongs... Quote
Keystone Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 No, this is a good place for your thread. I'd say you did the right thing. If it was one of my caches, I'd be a-thankin' ya. Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 I agree, you did the right thing. It's a judgment call and it looks like you have the right kind of judgment. Quote
+wiseye Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 You did the right thing. To have left it that way would have been irresponsible. I use the Best friend approach, If the cache belonged to my best friend , what would I do? Quote
+briansnat Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 Some owners would thank you and some might call you all sorts of names. I think you did the right thing. Someone else might say "How dare you!". Quote
+robert Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 You did the right thing, or at least what I would have done! Quote
+Lasagna Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 You did the right thing, or at least what I would have done! I keep a variety of "cache repair" items in my 4x4, so for minor issues where I have a suitable replacement container handy, I'll often make the repair for the owner (even if it's not an identical container -- the only time this doesn't work is when the container itself is part of the camo). I'll also replace internal cache items like plastic bags keeping log books dry, etc. when it seems the current one has seen better days. In the end however, if the cache is trashed and not replaceable (or securely re-hidable albeit maybe now inside a plastic bag, etc.), I'll pick it up and immediately notify the owner (and set the "needs maintenance" flag) so that the issue can be addressed. Most owners would rather have the pieces of their muggled cache (and most importantly the log book) back than to have it blowing around the woods or getting wet in the rain. At least, I know I would. Quote
+robert Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 I keep a variety of "cache repair" items in my 4x4, so for minor issues where I have a suitable replacement container handy, I'll often make the repair for the owner (even if it's not an identical container -- the only time this doesn't work is when the container itself is part of the camo). I'll also replace internal cache items like plastic bags keeping log books dry, etc. when it seems the current one has seen better days. Thanks for the response. The reason I woudn't reset a muggled cache is just that--the muggles will know where it is and likely check it again later. The cache should be archived and rehidden somewhere else, or just moved to a new spot somewhere close. Quote
+LostPuppy Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 You definitely did the right thing. One of my caches was recently muggled, and the finder was nice enough to sve me the log book that she found floating in the river water. I'm still drying it out, but I am very glad to have it. Quote
+wimseyguy Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 You did the right thing. The only other time I would consider removing a cache from its location is if I was instructed to do so face to face by Law Enforcement, a land manager, or property owner. Any other time, it's the cache owner's responsibility. Quote
+GPSOkie Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 If it were my cache, I would hope that someone would pick it up and email me so that I could replace it later. You did what I would have done Quote
+scavok Posted April 8, 2006 Author Posted April 8, 2006 Great. Thanks for the confirmation. I just figured if it was my cache... (: Quote
Tahosa and Sons Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 We need cachers with your mindset, good call. Now come North and I'll give you a good cache tour for your endeavors. Quote
+sTeamTraen Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 Something similar happened to me - the cache was floating in a nearby pond. However, I was some way from home and unlikely to revisit the spot, so taking the cache wan't an option. I thought I knew where it had come from, and I could see a place where I knew it certainly hadn't come from (too far for the coords), but which made a good hide. So I hid it there, noted the WP, took a spoiler photo, and logged "Needs Maintenance". Cache was back up in 48 hours. Quote
+Team JSAM Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 If this was my cache I would be thankful that you did such a thing, you saved what was left from being taken/destroyed. Quote
+Sagefox Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 If this was my cache I would be thankful that you did such a thing, you saved what was left from being taken/destroyed. Same here. Good show! Quote
+edscott Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 Agree.. I've done the same thing on one occasion. Quote
+StarBrand Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 I wish there were many clones of you to take such good care of all our caches! Quote
+HugoBear Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 You did the right thing, or at least what I would have done! I keep a variety of "cache repair" items in my 4x4, so for minor issues where I have a suitable replacement container handy, I'll often make the repair for the owner (even if it's not an identical container -- the only time this doesn't work is when the container itself is part of the camo). I'll also replace internal cache items like plastic bags keeping log books dry, etc. when it seems the current one has seen better days. In the end however, if the cache is trashed and not replaceable (or securely re-hidable albeit maybe now inside a plastic bag, etc.), I'll pick it up and immediately notify the owner (and set the "needs maintenance" flag) so that the issue can be addressed. Most owners would rather have the pieces of their muggled cache (and most importantly the log book) back than to have it blowing around the woods or getting wet in the rain. At least, I know I would. Ditto. All cachers ought to try to carry a few ziplocs, etc with them to do just this sort of thing. The kids and I found one that need help just yesterday. Quote
+Team Laxson Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) Yep scavok, you done good. Your description in the log is a good idea too. I'm kinda glad you did that as I'll be searching out the rest of those caches in the area soon. If it wasn't for the insta-notify I received from the owner 'Disabling' the listing, I could have come across the same mess. As with others, we usually keep a good stock of cachin' supplies with - just in case. Ziplock bags, Micro-logbooks, small log books (holds 18-20 logs with T: / L: descriptions, a temp thing only), and a permanent marker, to 'touch up' any writing that may have faded over time. Careful of Tahosa though, he'll wear you out in the mountains. Edited April 10, 2006 by Team Laxson Quote
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