+TeamAO Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I searched for this, and nothing came up....so here we go. I own an Earthcache. Someone went into my Earthcache and put links and advertisments to Subaru and Geological Survey of America. What about no soliciting? What's going on? No one sent me any email asking me about this. Quote Link to comment
+radioscout Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 AFAIK they are the official sponsors of the earthcache program. Quote Link to comment
+Mopar Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 (edited) I searched for this, and nothing came up....so here we go. I own an Earthcache. Someone went into my Earthcache and put links and advertisments to Subaru and Geological Survey of America. What about no soliciting? What's going on? No one sent me any email asking me about this. Ewwwww. If I owned an earthcache, and someone went and did that, I'm pretty sure I would remove the added stuff and then archive the cache. But that's me. Edited November 25, 2005 by Mopar Quote Link to comment
+Scout353 Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 You can't just remove the information? Quote Link to comment
+blackjack65 Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 You can't just remove the information? It's right between user generated content, and GeoCaching.com generated content, so my guess is it's part of GeoCaching code, and therfore cannot be removed. Quote Link to comment
+Hemlock Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 It's at the end of the Long Description. Quote Link to comment
+Mopar Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 You can't just remove the information? It's right between user generated content, and GeoCaching.com generated content, so my guess is it's part of GeoCaching code, and therfore cannot be removed. It does not appear to be part of the GC.com code, and it CAN be removed by the cache owner. Quote Link to comment
+TeamAO Posted November 26, 2005 Author Share Posted November 26, 2005 If I remove it, will I get in trouble with GC.com? Quote Link to comment
+Moose Mob Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 If I remove it, will I get in trouble with GC.com? Nope. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 I'll even give you a note! Quote Link to comment
+TerryDad2 Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 (edited) My question would be who allowed someone other than the owner to alter the description of a cache? Were you at least notified of the change or did you just discover it on your own? I just checked my 28 or so and they all have the ads. The ads aren't on the Waymarking earthcaches yet. Did I miss something on the gc.com site that said they would allow other people to edit my caches? Are my traditionals suseptable to the unannounced anonomous edits? Edited November 26, 2005 by TerryDad2 Quote Link to comment
ATMouse Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 Well, well..as my mom would say, you learn something new everyday... My earthcache was similarly treated. Edit the cache and look at the bottom of your description. Ah-ha! a new bit of verbiage, complete with a linkage. I deleted it. Let's see what happens. Quote Link to comment
+Pasha Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 I'm just surprised no one from Groundspeak has commented yet. Seems pretty telling. Quote Link to comment
+Quiggle Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 I'm just surprised no one from Groundspeak has commented yet. Seems pretty telling. Holiday weekend. The original post was late Friday (the day after Thanksgiving). Give it a few more days before jumping to conclusions. Thank you. Quote Link to comment
+treasure_hunter Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 I thought about removing the ad from my page but I didnt want to start any trouble. Has anyone else removed the ad yet? Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 I searched for this, and nothing came up....so here we go. I own an Earthcache. Someone went into my Earthcache and put links and advertisments to Subaru and Geological Survey of America. What about no soliciting? What's going on? No one sent me any email asking me about this. Ewwwww. If I owned an earthcache, and someone went and did that, I'm pretty sure I would remove the added stuff and then archive the cache. But that's me. Yep. In a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment
+TerryDad2 Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 I can see having the link to the list of earthcaches since they are now split between the gc.com and wm.com with no other way to search them all. Quote Link to comment
+geoaware Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Folks...I am sorry that this has caused a few of you so much concern. The 'Advert" was placed by me as the Earthcache Master for two reasons. 1. Earthcaches are now found on Geocachinging and Waymarking - I felt it was important that people knew this and that they could find the link to them all at earthcaching.org 2. Earthcaches are supported by the Geological Society of America and Subaru America (in the USA)...and that those people deserve some recognition as well. Without their support, and the support of many others including Groundspeak and you all, Earthcaches just would not exist. This will only be placed on the Geocaching.com Earthcaches. All these Earthcaches will eventually be archived as part of the plan to have all 'virtual' caches moved into Waymarking.com. Again, I apologise if this has cause you you concerns. You can, as some have suggested, just delete the code from the long description....but I hope that most will understand that dcoing this will help Earthcaches alive and kicking into the future. Cheers Gary Quote Link to comment
Keystone Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Geoaware, was this alteration of the Earthcache Cache Pages done with Groundspeak's prior approval? Quote Link to comment
maggiebelle Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I can't see a problem here...its not like its a link to sell cars.or to become a member of GSA. The link just takes you to the full list of earthcaches and provides more exposure of your cache.The services provided by the earthcaching team are not free to run. They take support from sponsers, or they would not be available for all to use, unless you want to pay a fee every time you post a cache or want to find a cache. I am guessing you would not want to do that either. You post your cache..and it is for the public. This is supposed to be a fun and educational program...and whinning will just ruin it. Quote Link to comment
+jeff35080 Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 I own two Earthcaches and the ad was only on one of mine... and now it's not on either Quote Link to comment
+DavidMac Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 All these Earthcaches will eventually be archived as part of the plan to have all 'virtual' caches moved into Waymarking.com. Okay, maybe this is OT, but when will they be archived? I understood that LC's were going to be archived at the beginning of next year but thought that the other "logless" cache types were grandfathered. Could someone point me to a thread? I can't seem to find it. Quote Link to comment
Keystone Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 All these Earthcaches will eventually be archived as part of the plan to have all 'virtual' caches moved into Waymarking.com. Okay, maybe this is OT, but when will they be archived? I understood that LC's were going to be archived at the beginning of next year but thought that the other "logless" cache types were grandfathered. Could someone point me to a thread? I can't seem to find it. DavidMac, you are correct in your understanding. There is no "plan to have all 'virtual' caches moved into Waymarking.com." I do regret any confusion which may have resulted from that statement earlier in the thread. Existing virtual caches and webcam caches will remain grandfathered on the Geocaching.com site unless and until Groundspeak decides to change that. NEW virtual, webcam and locationless submissions are no longer being accepted on Geocaching.com. All of those are finding a new home at Waymarking.com. Existing locationless caches -- and only locationless caches -- will be archived and locked at the end of the year. Reliable sources for the above information include the section on Grandfathered Cache Types in the Geocache Listing Requirements/Guidelines document, and the Read Me First thread that's pinned at the top of the Getting Started With Waymarking Forum. This post does not address Earthcaches because volunteer cache reviewers (such as me) do not have any responsibility for new Earthcache listings or for later actions taken in regard to existing Earthcache listings. Quote Link to comment
+Sean Connery Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Folks...I am sorry that this has caused a few of you so much concern. The 'Advert" was placed by me as the Earthcache Master for two reasons. 1. Earthcaches are now found on Geocachinging and Waymarking - I felt it was important that people knew this and that they could find the link to them all at earthcaching.org 2. Earthcaches are supported by the Geological Society of America and Subaru America (in the USA)...and that those people deserve some recognition as well. Without their support, and the support of many others including Groundspeak and you all, Earthcaches just would not exist. This will only be placed on the Geocaching.com Earthcaches. All these Earthcaches will eventually be archived as part of the plan to have all 'virtual' caches moved into Waymarking.com. Again, I apologise if this has cause you you concerns. You can, as some have suggested, just delete the code from the long description....but I hope that most will understand that dcoing this will help Earthcaches alive and kicking into the future. Cheers Gary And I thought mother nature created earthcaches. I have been finding earthcaches since I became a Boy Scout in the mid 60's. Long before the internet, not to mentiom earthcache.com or Groundspeak. I certainly don't need some Sweedish car makers help to find them. Quote Link to comment
+DavidMac Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 DavidMac, you are correct in your understanding. There is no "plan to have all 'virtual' caches moved into Waymarking.com." I do regret any confusion which may have resulted from that statement earlier in the thread. Thanks for clarifying. There seems to be a rumor flying throughout the geocaching community that all caches without physical logs (including virtuals and webcams, too) will be permanently archived at the stroke of midnight January 1st. I was at an event yesterday where someone swore that this was the case, although I haven’t seen any official word that gives a specific date regarding anything but the locationless listings. Reliable sources for the above information include the section on Grandfathered Cache Types in the Geocache Listing Requirements/Guidelines document, and the Read Me First thread that's pinned at the top of the Getting Started With Waymarking Forum. Reading Jeremy’s text on that page under “What are you planning to do with virtual caches?”, it sounds like he’s saying in the same section that virtuals will be removed from the site and placed in their own category, but also that the listings will remain grandfathered on the website. I’m confused As a result we will be removing the virtual cache listing from geocaching.com in favor of new waymark categories for these listings. Quote Link to comment
+Lil Devil Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 As a result we will be removing the virtual cache listing from geocaching.com in favor of new waymark categories for these listings. That has already happened. No new virtuals are being accepted. I think that's what he's talking about since the word "new" is mentioned. I don't see that as refering to existing virtuals at all. Quote Link to comment
+geoaware Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Again, I apologise that I added the information about sponsors of the Earthcaching program to the Earthcache listings. I did not do this with the approval of Groundspeak. I will remove the sponsorship references from the listings asap. Quote Link to comment
+DavidMac Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 As a result we will be removing the virtual cache listing from geocaching.com in favor of new waymark categories for these listings. That has already happened. No new virtuals are being accepted. I think that's what he's talking about since the word "new" is mentioned. I don't see that as refering to existing virtuals at all. Ah, that makes sense now. I was reading the text to mean existing caches, rather than new listings only. I now realize that the text was from August, back when you could still select “Virtual” as a cache type when creating a new listing. Keystone answered my other question about virtual caches above. I’m still not sure what the plan is for earthcaches and when exactly geoaware plans to archive/move them, but I don’t want to hijack this thread (oops, too late ) so I’ll start a new one if I can’t find the answer. Quote Link to comment
+AtoZ Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 you can not do any thing, just like gas prices. cheers Quote Link to comment
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