Is There A Need To Be So Rude?

July 27, 2005

I vote for closing this thread! It has TROLL written all over it.

NOOOOOooooo

It's boring at my desk. Please don't close it! I beg of you.

Okay, we will keep the thread open but vote on getting rid of the troll?

July 27, 2005

Well I had to re-read the original thread to see if Jeremy was in fact rude. I'll summarize here;

odragon proposes that event caches be automatically archived.

Haggis Hunter agrees and suggest that after about 1 month events be automatically archived.

welch responds "Why not just start posting some Needs Archived logs?"

Haggis Hunter says "You're quite right we could, but last time I checked I wasn't the cache police, posting needs archiving logs may start to upset people. If we have something that is mandatory and happens automatically people will accept that is how it happens."

Jeremy responds "Well golly. We don't want to start upsetting people, do we?"

First mistake. Jeremy should've said "The current system of posting should be archived is sufficient. There is no need to automate the process. If there is a legitimate reason for a should be archive log you should worry about upsetting people"

Haggis Hunter took Jeremy's remark as dismissive of his suggestion and respond that Jeremy thinks its ok to upset people.

Jeremy responds by clarifying that he mean that if bothers you that the cache is still active you shouldn't worry about upsetting the owner.

Haggis Hunter feels his suggestion has still been dismissed without a good reason. Those of us who follow the geocaching.com forum regularly know that Jeremy will not make any changes to the website without a good reason. But he didn't make that clear to Haggis Hunter.

Jeremy then respond "Kissing your butt wasn't part of the service contract. I normally set my tone by how you set your tone, which started off as being combative and sarcastic. I figured if you could dish it you could take it. Sorry if I was mistaken (and here's a few kissy poos for you then)."

Well if that isn't rude I don't know what is. I think Jeremy owes Haggis Hunter an apology.

Why don't you put hunter's orig. post here? then we will see if it is rude.

Edited July 27, 2005 by Gecko1

July 27, 2005

Yes, you're correct. Perhaps you can explain to me how Haggis's post was antagonistic. Saying that you don't want to come across as the cache police certainly doesn't appear antagonistic to me.

antagonistic was your word not mine...mine was sarcastic...big difference

Edited July 27, 2005 by ohgrl

5.6k · July 27, 2005

To answer the OP. Jeremy tends to respond to who's posting and how they posted. When the OP is rude, Jeremy is snippy. If they ask an honest question his answer is typically straight forward.

I can appreciate what you're saying but in no way was Haggis Hunter being rude in this thread. It was obviously Jeremy who came out with the combative and antagonistic remarks.

There's no way that can be considered anything but rude. And as you well know, there's no need to be rude at any time. Just ask Ann Landers (well, you can't ask her anymore, but if you could, she would most likely tell Jeremy to grow up).

Well golly, maybe it's just me, but I don't "hear" the rudeness in that remark.

No, seriously, I don't.

It's too easy to infer tones in the forums. Face it, you "hear" what you want to hear. Cut people some slack...

Finally, someone else who doesn't see any hostility in Haggis's comments.

Perhaps Jeremy should cut some people some slack and realize that being rude is just not cool. Perhaps Jeremy just likes being antagonistic and looks for it wherever he can get it?

Talk about not 'hearing' things! Your the one who didn't hear any rudeness in HH's posts, just Jeremy's. Now you quote this to support your view, when I see it as opposing you - make up you mind! Was there rudeness or not? (Rudeness or sarcasm seem the same to you)

1.7k · July 27, 2005

I vote for closing this thread! It has TROLL written all over it.

NOOOOOooooo

It's boring at my desk. Please don't close it! I beg of you.

Me too!!! They might make me work!

Please keep this open. Every time I type people in the office think I'm actually working.

July 27, 2005

4 pages! No bet.

July 27, 2005

To answer the OP. Jeremy tends to respond to who's posting and how they posted. When the OP is rude, Jeremy is snippy. If they ask an honest question his answer is typically straight forward.

I can appreciate what you're saying but in no way was Haggis Hunter being rude in this thread. It was obviously Jeremy who came out with the combative and antagonistic remarks.

There's no way that can be considered anything but rude. And as you well know, there's no need to be rude at any time. Just ask Ann Landers (well, you can't ask her anymore, but if you could, she would most likely tell Jeremy to grow up).

Well golly, maybe it's just me, but I don't "hear" the rudeness in that remark.

No, seriously, I don't.

It's too easy to infer tones in the forums. Face it, you "hear" what you want to hear. Cut people some slack...

Finally, someone else who doesn't see any hostility in Haggis's comments.

Perhaps Jeremy should cut some people some slack and realize that being rude is just not cool. Perhaps Jeremy just likes being antagonistic and looks for it wherever he can get it?

I vote for closing this thread! It has TROLL written all over it.

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Nope. Not a troll. Just pointing out what I see as a serious problem. What's wrong with using good manners?

5.3k · July 27, 2005

It's most likely because it makes the little man feel big when he has the opportunity to belittle those who enter his kingdom.

Ooh...them is fightin' words!

After school, next to the swing set. My money is on Jeremy!

July 27, 2005

This isn't an argument.

Yes it is.

No, it isn't.

Yes, it is.

No, it isn't. It's abuse.

No, it's clearly an argument.

It is not an argument.

Is too.

Is not.

Is too.

Is not.

Is too.

Is not.

Is too.

5.6k · July 27, 2005

I can appreciate what you're saying but in no way was Haggis Hunter being rude in this thread. It was obviously Jeremy who came out with the combative and antagonistic remarks.

what haggis wrote was: You're quite right we could, but last time I checked I wasn't the cache police

I considered that a sarcastic, rude remark in response to someone suggesting using a feature already suppplied by Jeremy (Should be archived)...

I am sure that is how many people read it also....rude and sarcastic

I believe that using Jeremy's logic, his somewhat sarcastic reply was a result of the previous post made by Jeremy. Following Jeremy's logic, there should not have been anything wrong with it.

You can't even get your argument in the right order. HH's comment came BEFORE Jeremy's first post. Jeremy was responding to that remark.

July 27, 2005

This isn't an argument.
Yes it is.

No, it isn't.

Yes, it is.

No, it isn't. It's abuse.

No, it's clearly an argument.

It is not an argument.

Is too.

Is not.

Is too.

Is not.

Is too.

Is not.

Is too.

Longer posts make it look like we are working harder huH?

July 27, 2005

Sheep are nice, too.

July 27, 2005

Sheep are nice, too.

Sheep are ugly. Use llamas.

July 27, 2005

Well I had to re-read the original thread to see if Jeremy was in fact rude. I'll summarize here;

odragon proposes that event caches be automatically archived.

Haggis Hunter agrees and suggest that after about 1 month events be automatically archived.

welch responds "Why not just start posting some Needs Archived logs?"

Haggis Hunter says "You're quite right we could, but last time I checked I wasn't the cache police, posting needs archiving logs may start to upset people. If we have something that is mandatory and happens automatically people will accept that is how it happens."

Jeremy responds "Well golly. We don't want to start upsetting people, do we?"

First mistake. Jeremy should've said "The current system of posting should be archived is sufficient. There is no need to automate the process. If there is a legitimate reason for a should be archive log you should worry about upsetting people"

Haggis Hunter took Jeremy's remark as dismissive of his suggestion and respond that Jeremy thinks its ok to upset people.

Jeremy responds by clarifying that he mean that if bothers you that the cache is still active you shouldn't worry about upsetting the owner.

Haggis Hunter feels his suggestion has still been dismissed without a good reason. Those of us who follow the geocaching.com forum regularly know that Jeremy will not make any changes to the website without a good reason. But he didn't make that clear to Haggis Hunter.

Jeremy then respond "Kissing your butt wasn't part of the service contract. I normally set my tone by how you set your tone, which started off as being combative and sarcastic. I figured if you could dish it you could take it. Sorry if I was mistaken (and here's a few kissy poos for you then)."

Well if that isn't rude I don't know what is. I think Jeremy owes Haggis Hunter an apology.

As do I.

July 27, 2005

Boy and I thought this was going to be another boring day at work.

I'll bet 500 quatloos that this thread goes 4 pages before being locked.

you're on!

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

well, there goes my 500Q

July 27, 2005

After school, next to the swing set. My money is on Jeremy!

Jeremy will slap the daylights out of Marty with his (Marty's or Jeremy's; it don't matter) pocket protector?

July 27, 2005

What we have here, is a failure to communicate. To quote another great movie.

I agree whole heartedly with what Sue Grelim said back on page 1 or 2 about how Marty should sit back and observe for a while. I am also fairly new here and I am not a premium member (because I'm lazy, one day I'll pay) and I've never met Jeremy. But I love his taste in movies.

MadMarty take a pill (maybe a good old fashioned valium) then have a beer. You stated your opinion which is good, but for cryin out loud stop it. You're beating a dead horse.

Does anyone else see a resemblance between MadMarty and another thread from a few weeks ago started by a 14 year old boy. Unfortunately, I can't recall the kids nick and I don't remember what the thread was about - just chalk full of angst though.

Thanks for the llamas they made my day.

3.5k · July 27, 2005

To answer the OP. Jeremy tends to respond to who's posting and how they posted. When the OP is rude, Jeremy is snippy. If they ask an honest question his answer is typically straight forward.

I can appreciate what you're saying but in no way was Haggis Hunter being rude in this thread. It was obviously Jeremy who came out with the combative and antagonistic remarks.

There's no way that can be considered anything but rude. And as you well know, there's no need to be rude at any time. Just ask Ann Landers (well, you can't ask her anymore, but if you could, she would most likely tell Jeremy to grow up).

Well golly, maybe it's just me, but I don't "hear" the rudeness in that remark.

No, seriously, I don't.

It's too easy to infer tones in the forums. Face it, you "hear" what you want to hear. Cut people some slack...

Finally, someone else who doesn't see any hostility in Haggis's comments.

Perhaps Jeremy should cut some people some slack and realize that being rude is just not cool. Perhaps Jeremy just likes being antagonistic and looks for it wherever he can get it?

Actually, I was speaking of Jeremy's response, not Haggis'. Not that I think Haggis was rude either, mind you.

Considering you misunderstood me, maybe you should be looking elsewhere for the source of your angst.

Bret

July 27, 2005

Sheep are nice, too.

Sheep are ugly. Use llamas.

Dolly%20Llama.JPG

You want llamas, you got llamas!

July 27, 2005

Nope. Not a troll. Just pointing out what I see as a serious problem. What's wrong with using good manners?

Good manners? You call your trolling good manners? Boy, you almost made me spill my coffee

Jan

July 27, 2005

This has become tiresome. Now's the time on Sprockets when we dance.

July 27, 2005

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baby goats are cute

July 27, 2005

You can't even get your argument in the right order. HH's comment came BEFORE Jeremy's first post. Jeremy was responding to that remark.

It's already been addressed. Perhaps you should read what's going on before commenting.

July 27, 2005

MadMarty take a pill (maybe a good old fashioned valium) then have a beer.

should you really mix pills and al-kee-hol?

July 27, 2005

Well I had to re-read the original thread to see if Jeremy was in fact rude. I'll summarize here;

odragon proposes that event caches be automatically archived.

Haggis Hunter agrees and suggest that after about 1 month events be automatically archived.

welch responds "Why not just start posting some Needs Archived logs?"

Haggis Hunter says "You're quite right we could, but last time I checked I wasn't the cache police, posting needs archiving logs may start to upset people. If we have something that is mandatory and happens automatically people will accept that is how it happens."

Jeremy responds "Well golly. We don't want to start upsetting people, do we?"

First mistake. Jeremy should've said "The current system of posting should be archived is sufficient. There is no need to automate the process. If there is a legitimate reason for a should be archive log you should worry about upsetting people"

Haggis Hunter took Jeremy's remark as dismissive of his suggestion and respond that Jeremy thinks its ok to upset people.

Jeremy responds by clarifying that he mean that if bothers you that the cache is still active you shouldn't worry about upsetting the owner.

Haggis Hunter feels his suggestion has still been dismissed without a good reason. Those of us who follow the geocaching.com forum regularly know that Jeremy will not make any changes to the website without a good reason. But he didn't make that clear to Haggis Hunter.

Jeremy then respond "Kissing your butt wasn't part of the service contract. I normally set my tone by how you set your tone, which started off as being combative and sarcastic. I figured if you could dish it you could take it. Sorry if I was mistaken (and here's a few kissy poos for you then)."

Well if that isn't rude I don't know what is. I think Jeremy owes Haggis Hunter an apology.

As do I.

This post needs to be read again by a few people here. A little honesty while reading the original thread that caused all of this should put things correct for those with any intelligence.

5.6k · July 27, 2005

You can't even get your argument in the right order. HH's comment came BEFORE Jeremy's first post. Jeremy was responding to that remark.

It's already been addressed. Perhaps you should read what's going on before commenting.

Sorry, so I type slow. Doesn't change the facts.

5.6k · July 27, 2005

Well I had to re-read the original thread to see if Jeremy was in fact rude. I'll summarize here;

odragon proposes that event caches be automatically archived.

Haggis Hunter agrees and suggest that after about 1 month events be automatically archived.

welch responds "Why not just start posting some Needs Archived logs?"

Haggis Hunter says "You're quite right we could, but last time I checked I wasn't the cache police, posting needs archiving logs may start to upset people. If we have something that is mandatory and happens automatically people will accept that is how it happens."

Jeremy responds "Well golly. We don't want to start upsetting people, do we?"

First mistake. Jeremy should've said "The current system of posting should be archived is sufficient. There is no need to automate the process. If there is a legitimate reason for a should be archive log you should worry about upsetting people"

Haggis Hunter took Jeremy's remark as dismissive of his suggestion and respond that Jeremy thinks its ok to upset people.

Jeremy responds by clarifying that he mean that if bothers you that the cache is still active you shouldn't worry about upsetting the owner.

Haggis Hunter feels his suggestion has still been dismissed without a good reason. Those of us who follow the geocaching.com forum regularly know that Jeremy will not make any changes to the website without a good reason. But he didn't make that clear to Haggis Hunter.

Jeremy then respond "Kissing your butt wasn't part of the service contract. I normally set my tone by how you set your tone, which started off as being combative and sarcastic. I figured if you could dish it you could take it. Sorry if I was mistaken (and here's a few kissy poos for you then)."

Well if that isn't rude I don't know what is. I think Jeremy owes Haggis Hunter an apology.

As do I.

This post needs to be read again by a few people here. A little honesty while reading the original thread that caused all of this should put things correct for those with any intelligence.

WOW! He just went from infering Jeremy's stupid (i.e.. not smart) to calling all of us stupid! Sounds like a troll to me!

July 27, 2005

The bottom line is that Jeremy should apologize to Haggis Hunter for being rude to him.

I suspect that his over-inflated ego will prohibit him from doing so with any sincerity.

July 27, 2005

"Tough nuts."

July 27, 2005

The bottom line is that Jeremy should apologize to Haggis Hunter for being rude to him.

I suspect that his over-inflated ego will prohibit him from doing so with any sincerity.

As will yours in the future.

July 27, 2005

Well I had to re-read the original thread to see if Jeremy was in fact rude. I'll summarize here;

odragon proposes that event caches be automatically archived.

Haggis Hunter agrees and suggest that after about 1 month events be automatically archived.

welch responds "Why not just start posting some Needs Archived logs?"

Haggis Hunter says "You're quite right we could, but last time I checked I wasn't the cache police, posting needs archiving logs may start to upset people. If we have something that is mandatory and happens automatically people will accept that is how it happens."

Jeremy responds "Well golly. We don't want to start upsetting people, do we?"

First mistake. Jeremy should've said "The current system of posting should be archived is sufficient. There is no need to automate the process. If there is a legitimate reason for a should be archive log you should worry about upsetting people"

Haggis Hunter took Jeremy's remark as dismissive of his suggestion and respond that Jeremy thinks its ok to upset people.

Jeremy responds by clarifying that he mean that if bothers you that the cache is still active you shouldn't worry about upsetting the owner.

Haggis Hunter feels his suggestion has still been dismissed without a good reason. Those of us who follow the geocaching.com forum regularly know that Jeremy will not make any changes to the website without a good reason. But he didn't make that clear to Haggis Hunter.

Jeremy then respond "Kissing your butt wasn't part of the service contract. I normally set my tone by how you set your tone, which started off as being combative and sarcastic. I figured if you could dish it you could take it. Sorry if I was mistaken (and here's a few kissy poos for you then)."

Well if that isn't rude I don't know what is. I think Jeremy owes Haggis Hunter an apology.

As do I.

This post needs to be read again by a few people here. A little honesty while reading the original thread that caused all of this should put things correct for those with any intelligence.

Oh, so now you're calling EVERYONE here that doesn't agree with your opinion stupid? Bad forum karma. Bad, bad forum karma.

5.6k · July 27, 2005

The bottom line is that Jeremy should apologize to Haggis Hunter for being rude to him.

I suspect that his over-inflated ego will prohibit him from doing so with any sincerity.

Where's your apology for your rudeness to Jeremy and the rest of the responders to this thread? Maybe setting a good example would help?

July 27, 2005

WOW! He just went from infering Jeremy's stupid (i.e.. not smart) to calling all of us stupid! Sounds like a troll to me!

No. I didn't infer that anyone here is stupid (that was your word). But anyone who reads the original post correctly for what it is will see that Jeremy is in the wrong.

For that, you will need to show some intelligence.

Edited July 27, 2005 by MadMarty

July 27, 2005

should you really mix pills and al-kee-hol

No probbably not but sometimes when a person is sooooo upset one jsut isn't enough (I am not promoting the use of either drugs or al-kee-hol). Kinda like llamas one just ain't enough.

July 27, 2005

July 27, 2005

The bottom line is that Jeremy should apologize to Haggis Hunter for being rude to him.

I suspect that his over-inflated ego will prohibit him from doing so with any sincerity.

Where's your apology for your rudeness to Jeremy and the rest of the responders to this thread? Maybe setting a good example would help?

Sorry, but I don't feel that I need to apologize for anything that I've said to Jeremy.

July 27, 2005

WOW! He just went from infering Jeremy's stupid (i.e.. not smart) to calling all of us stupid! Sounds like a troll to me!

No. I didn't infer that anyone here is stupid (that was your word). But anyone who reads the original post correctly for what it is will see that Jeremy is in the wrong.

For that, you will need to show some intelligence.

Aren't you trying to say that hunter wasn't wrong? We already know your thoughts on jeremy.

July 27, 2005

WOW! He just went from infering Jeremy's stupid (i.e.. not smart) to calling all of us stupid! Sounds like a troll to me!

Funny as it is, intelligence is the one human characteristic that is most fair distributed by nature. Many people complain about something too small, big, short, long, thin, thick ... but very few people complain about having too little or too much intelligence. Even a troll like MadMarty would insist that he got enough.

Jan

July 27, 2005

Sheep are nice, too.

Sheep are ugly. Use llamas.

Now THAT was rude and uncalled for.....you apologize to that sheep right now, buster......!

July 27, 2005

dadgum guys...

Without taking sides on this matter, I have noticed these forums to often have a snotty tone to them, from a lot of different posters. I haven't seen this type of problem in other forums I belong to. Most of us are adults here, right?

So why is it that so many times on thes forums, peoples posts don't represent that maturity?

Now is the part where everyone sharpens their axes and pitchforks, and chases me into the hills screaming "Love it or leave it".

I really like it here, but I think if people were less snarky, and more helpful... it would do us all some good. I am not directing that comment at any one person, just us Geocachers as a whole.

July 27, 2005

Sheep are nice, too.

Sheep are ugly. Use llamas.

Now THAT was rude and uncalled for.....you apologize to that sheep right now, buster......!

That sheep does need a bath. (or at least a combing)

July 27, 2005

July 27, 2005

WOW! He just went from infering Jeremy's stupid (i.e.. not smart) to calling all of us stupid! Sounds like a troll to me!

No. I didn't infer that anyone here is stupid (that was your word). But anyone who reads the original post correctly for what it is will see that Jeremy is in the wrong.

For that, you will need to show some intelligence.

Well, I've read ther thread in question. I've read all your responses. I still do not come to the same conclussion as you. Now, by your last statement, that means that I am not showing intelligence. That would imply that if I don't choose to agree with you, that I'm not intelligent, i.e. stupid.

Maybe I'm just not intelligent enough to realize that you are not blindly calling anyone who opposes you stupid....

July 27, 2005

The bottom line is that Jeremy should apologize to Haggis Hunter for being rude to him.

I suspect that his over-inflated ego will prohibit him from doing so with any sincerity.

AND FROM A PREVIOUS POST:

For that, you will need to show some intelligence

You have ranted on for 4 pages about how only your opinion is right and you are saying someone else has an overinflated ego?

Intelligence is when someone is unhappy, states their opinions and lets matters drop instead of letting others ruffle his feathers.

Fun is watching this thread get bigger and wasting yet another 10 minutes of my employer's dime

5.6k · July 27, 2005

WOW! He just went from infering Jeremy's stupid (i.e.. not smart) to calling all of us stupid! Sounds like a troll to me!

No. I didn't infer that anyone here is stupid (that was your word). But anyone who reads the original post correctly for what it is will see that Jeremy is in the wrong.

For that, you will need to show some intelligence.

To quote you - that's already been covered. Infering supid by claim he's "not smart".

As for your comment about my IQ (which I know and am comfortable with) you were flat out rude and need to apologize. (I won't hold my breath, trolls never apologize.)

July 27, 2005

The bottom line is that Jeremy should apologize to Haggis Hunter for being rude to him.

I suspect that his over-inflated ego will prohibit him from doing so with any sincerity.

Where's your apology for your rudeness to Jeremy and the rest of the responders to this thread? Maybe setting a good example would help?

Sorry, but I don't feel that I need to apologize for anything that I've said to Jeremy.

Do you know what a troll is? This is definately trolling.

July 27, 2005

Marty...Here's how I see it.

Are you a premium member?

express your displeasure with Jeremy through a pm, telling him why you either are not a premium member, or will not be renewing your membership, and let it go at that.

save some face.

July 27, 2005

Well, I've read ther thread in question. I've read all your responses. I still do not come to the same conclussion as you. Now, by your last statement, that means that I am not showing intelligence. That would imply that if I don't choose to agree with you, that I'm not intelligent, i.e. stupid.

I didn't call you or anyone else stupid.

I won't however, argue with anything else that you wrote in that post.

July 27, 2005

Marty...Here's how I see it.

Are you a premium member?

express your displeasure with Jeremy through a pm, telling him why you either are not a premium member, or will not be renewing your membership, and let it go at that.

save some face.

Yes. Let us get back to work.

July 27, 2005

save some face.

That ship has sailed. Across the seven seas and back again. And has run aground and is now in dry dock.

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