crios2 Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 Can it be done? Has anybody done it? I'm guessing that it can be done, but how hard is it and what kind of maps do you need (and where do you get them.) Chris Quote Link to comment
scontapay Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 If you wish to try that have you thought of benchmarking? A GPSr helps with benchmarking but it is not required Sam -- "Geocaching is great! Have something to do with my son and get out an exercise" Quote Link to comment
Team Kender Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 I read somewhere on here about a guy that did his first 20 caches or so without a GPSr. -Dan Team Kender - "The Sun is coming up!" "No, the horizon is going down." Quote Link to comment
+Team Shibby Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 I believe there is a cacher by the name of Web-Ling. He has found a crazy amount with no GPS. My guess is he is real good with a map and compass!! Kar Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 I've done a couple, including my first. It's more of a challenge but you can use maps to get close. Once you are close it's time to look anyway, your GPS can't look for you. ===================== Wherever you go there you are. Quote Link to comment
FISUR Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 And don't forget WaldenRun. He always goes without a GPS, and I believe he has the most finds in Massachusetts. FISUR Rhode Island Geocaching Quote Link to comment
+haggaeus Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 You just can't do the virtuals which require a photo of the cacher holding a GPS as a confirmation. Quote Link to comment
+Bilder Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 I found my first one without a GPS. Could have probably found a couple others in my area without one as well. Just check the hints and photos to get you in the neighborhood. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have never been lost. Been awful confused for a few days, but never lost! Quote Link to comment
+Sallies Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 We did our first few caches without a GPS, compass or map then came across one that stumped us. We were on holiday so thought we'd buy a compass - ended up with a map, compass and GPS!! We've never looked back! The thing was though that if we hadn't managed to find those first few we would probably never have got hooked! Sallies Quote Link to comment
Moose-Alini Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 I have gone on four hunts thus far. All without GPS. Found three and gave up on one. Just too hot here. Quote Link to comment
+Perrin Posted June 5, 2003 Share Posted June 5, 2003 In short, yeah it can be done. Like many of the others, I found my first 2 without a gps. But then those were pretty obvious by the clues and stuff. Signature? I don't need no stinkin signature!!!! Quote Link to comment
Team Kender Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Haggaeus:You just can't do the virtuals which require a photo of the cacher holding a GPS as a confirmation. Hold up the map and compass in the pic? Oh yeah, and I've found two caches without the GPSr as well. Team Kender - "The Sun is coming up!" "No, the horizon is going down." Quote Link to comment
Dinoprophet Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 I did one recently just to see if I could. It was a 1/1.5 (or should have been if it wasn't). I just looked at the topo map online once, saw it was on the NE side of the only hill in the area, and I went pretty much right to it. That didn't really exercise any map and compass skills, except rudimentary topo map reading. Well the mountain was so beautiful that this guy built a mall and a pizza shack Yeah he built an ugly city because he wanted the mountain to love him back -- Dar Williams Quote Link to comment
+woodsters Posted June 6, 2003 Share Posted June 6, 2003 You should be able to do it with a topo map and map reading protractor. We learned it in High School ROTC (Army) and then when I went into the Air Force as a Security Policeman and was training for Air Base Ground Defense, the Army taught it to us, which was real easy for me there. Just remember, you read a topo map to the right and up. Brian Wood Woodsters Outdoors http://www.woodsters.com Quote Link to comment
+SearchRescueDog Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 You may even find that it is more enjoyable not to use a GPS. I find that when using a GPS you walk looking down all the time. Get a level of comfort with the map & compass and you will find yourelf looking at all the things around you. You can always use the GPS if you get stumped. The best type of map to use would be a current USGS 1:24k topo map. Keep in mind that these maps may not be up to date (revised in the 70's around here). A decent compass will run you about $35. In addition you will want to invest about $5 in a UTM grid reader. It is personal pref but I think that UTM is the easiest system to work with and learn. If you invest in a program like TOPO or MapTech it will convert Lat/Long to UTM and convert WGS84 datum to NAD27 automatically and then print a USGS 1:24k topo. Good Luck Quote Link to comment
HJS Posted June 7, 2003 Share Posted June 7, 2003 There is a guy in Virginia who does not use a GPSr to find caches. I believe he has around 100 finds. His handle is QOC Mike look up his profile. If you are intersted maybe you can pump him for his secret via e-mail Quote Link to comment
+Don&Betty Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Inputting the coordinates to this map-maker site-- http://www.lostoutdoors.com/newmap.html -- will put a red dot right on the cache on a 1 meter per pixel arial photoghraph that shows things as small as individual trees. I doubt that most hiders' cooridates are measured that precisely. Quote Link to comment
+BigBirdNL Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 I use no GPS when the wheather conditions force me to. Or when trees are in the way. It is not more or less fun. It's just other fun. You will need a detailed (topo) map and the ability to read coord on the map. Have fun! BigBird -- there is no spoon -- Quote Link to comment
runner_one Posted June 15, 2003 Share Posted June 15, 2003 I am new to this sport and as of the time of this posting my GPS has not arrived yet. I have already found 4 caches and from the hints believe I could find most without using a unit. My first find was 10:00PM and very dark, and today I found two. However in order to hide a cache properly I feel like I will need to us a unit, so as soon as my unit arrives I plan to start hiding some of my own caches. Quote Link to comment
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