Anyone Want To Go Above The Clouds With Me?

[+1stimestar]

So just because I am still a bit new:  If an approver disables a cache, then it can not be opened back up by the owner?  The disabling approver would have to do that?  Am I correct?  And how do you get to be an approver with no finds?  Really, I am not trying to stir the sh*t here, just curious.  I would love to be an approver but figured I had better get more finds/placements under my belt before even looking into it.

Thanks.

Actually, a disabled cache is easily re-enabled by the owner. It's when the cache is archived that you will need the approver's help in unarchiving the cache.

 

Read disabled as temporary and archived as permanent.

Ahhh I see. Thanks.

[+EraSeek]

I suppose I should have disabled this anyway. The only reason I didn't is two fold. No one can climb or get close to the mountain as is due to the authorities blocking it off and therefore when they open things up again it would be an auto-re-enabling of the cache. The second reason is I doubt the all the caches in Florida were disabled when 4 hurricanes came along (everyone allready knows). Anyway I'll watch the St Hellens site and re-enable when climbing permits resume.

[+ironman114]

And how do you get to be an approver with no finds?

Some approvers have an account that they find caches with, and another account to post in the forums with. Thus showing no finds although they may have hundreds or even thousands of them.

[+EraSeek]

"USGS Information - Updated October 4, 2004 at 0770 Hours (7:00 am) PDT

 

 

Results from GPS measurements indicate no significant deformation of the outer flanks of the volcano. However, visual observations and photographic analysis show large-scale uplift (10’s of meters) of part of the glacier and a nearby segment of the lava dome. Yesterday a field crew installed a new GPS instrument on the dome and also measured the distance from the Johnston Ridge Observatory to the dome.

 

Today we will receive a remotely operated video camera that will be installed on the crater rim from the USGS Hawaiian Volcano Observatory. Today field crews will work at installing additional seismometers on the flanks of the volcano and will continue to harden the GPS sites and download data. "

 

Wow, those guys are walking around on the dome!

[nolenator]

Ya know you would if you could, I would. I should have become a seismologist instead of an engineer. Peace, Nolenator

[+EraSeek]

Ya know you would if you could, I would. I should have become a seismologist instead of an engineer. Peace, Nolenator

You bet I would!....but I'd wear my running shoes.

[+Riddlers]

Can you see your cache from the camera or have the coordinates changed with the growing size of the volcano, do you think?

[+Bull Moose]

Can you see your cache from the camera or have the coordinates changed with the growing size of the volcano, do you think?

The cache is on the oppostite side of the mountain than the camera faces.

Cache is on the south slope camera points at where the north slope used to be but is now "the breech."

[+EraSeek]

Looking a bit different these days. Oct 5:

 

[+EraSeek]

Many of us were standing about here not long ago:

 

Edited October 8, 2004 by EraSeek

[+EraSeek]

Ok. One more:

 

[+Bull Moose]

Wow. The lava dome looks a lot different. I commented when I was there that I wanted to come back in another 24 years and see how it had changed. Guess I only needed to wait a few weeks.

[+Dagg]

Many of us were standing about here not long ago:

 

After reading the logs from the group trip up to your cache, A few of us were talking about heading up there.....

Hmm not gunna happen for a while

[+EraSeek]

The prominant (sp?) feature on the left is a portion of the new uplift.

 

[+Belleterre]

If this keeps up - you may be re-naming the cache

 

'Under the Ashe'

 

or

 

'Down the Toutle'

 

[+Prying Pandora]

I suppose I should have disabled this anyway. The only reason I didn't is two fold. No one can climb or get close to the mountain as is due to the authorities blocking it off and therefore when they open things up again it would be an auto-re-enabling of the cache. The second reason is I doubt the all the caches in Florida were disabled when 4 hurricanes came along (everyone allready knows). Anyway I'll watch the St Hellens site and re-enable when climbing permits resume.

A video just surfaced today, taken by someone who disregarded the closures and hiked up to the rim. The USFS says that he isn't the first one to have done so since the mountain has been closed to all climbing. They also said he would have been killed if he had been up there during any of the recent events. Evidently constant earthquakes, roadblocks and park closures aren't enough to keep everyone away.

[+EraSeek]

I'll guarentee you he knew he wasn't suppose to be there! That is why he went.

[+Pepper]

Nice pics EraSeek this is the best I could do on Tuesday!

 

One of my newely Deputized Jr. Forest Rangers proudly showcasing her new shinny badge with the St. Helens in the back gound.

I took the twins out of school and I guarantee they leared more that day than they would have in a week at school! Hands on learing once in a while is the best.

 

The ranger that deputized the twins asked what CITO meant that she found on there paperwork as an answer. She was mighty impressed!

 

Pepper

Edited October 9, 2004 by Team SuperGenius

[+Prying Pandora]

I'll guarentee you he knew he wasn't suppose to be there! That is why he went.

Definitely! In between the rumbling of the earthquakes, you could hear him saying he hoped he wouldn't get caught. Someone like that wouldn't be stopped by a disabled cache, so it's a good thing he wasn't a cacher.

[+EraSeek]

Very cool picture, Pepper! Must be Coldwater ridge observation center. I've canoed Coldwater lake and hiked the next closest ridge over. If you ever get a chance, Johnston ridge is an awesome spot. Next chance I get, rather than climbing the mountain, I'm hiking the trails down off of Johnston ridge.

[+WeightMan]

As far as I know Johnston Ridge is still closed. All visitors have been moved back to Coldwater.

[+EraSeek]

As far as I know Johnston Ridge is still closed. All visitors have been moved back to Coldwater.

Yes. I don't think you can even go down the hill to the lake right now. The Coldwater visitors center is it for now.

[+evergreenhiker!]

Don't forget windy Ridge on the northeast side...it's little more out of the way, but lots of trails in that are to choose from and one takes you right down to Spirit Lake.

[+Pepper]

As far as I know Johnston Ridge is still closed.  All visitors have been moved back to Coldwater.

Yes. I don't think you can even go down the hill to the lake right now. The Coldwater visitors center is it for now.

Yes it was Coldwater and I did see the lake and picnic area below, they had that closed up tight!

 

My plan is to go back when Johnston is open and there's a dusting of snow?

 

Pepper

Edited October 10, 2004 by Team SuperGenius

[+Wander Lost]

You went all that way and didn't get my Why Not???? cache??? I'm devastated!!!

 

Seriously I think I'm going to go down next weekend if the weather reports hold. Should have nice views then.

[+EraSeek]

I may go down tomorrow

 

A 10/07 photo:

[+EraSeek]

Some area roads and trails have re-opened:

 

UPDATE ON Area, Road, and Trail Closures

 

Vancouver, WA, The Gifford Pinchot National Forest officials have decided to reopen some areas previously closed around Mount St. Helens to provide access to recreationists and hunters. However, forest visitors are cautioned that the mountain remains in a state of intense unrest, and that an eruption could occur with very little warning. The USGS and Forest Service will continue to monitor the situation closely and will issue additional updates to closures as appropriate.

 

The Forest Service, USGS in consultation with law enforcement agencies have refined area and road closures to reflect current and predicted volcanic activity, hazard zones and to balance public safety with recreational access

 

The existing 5 mile radius area closure around the crater of Mount St. Helens will remain in place. The following areas are now open to public access given the current and predicted volcanic activity.

 

• Forest Road 8303 is open.

 

• Ape Cave and Trail of Two Forests recreation sites are open.

 

• Forest Road 81 between Kalama Horse Camp and the 5 mile radius closure area is open to non-motorized travel. Camping on Road 81 is prohibited.

 

• Trails accessed from Kalama Horse Camp are open to the boundary of the 5 mile radius closure area. These include trails: 1) Trails #204, #231, #238, and #242.

 

Closure information will be posted at gated closures and at trailheads. The attached map identifies the 5 mile radius closure area, and any trails or roads that are closed outside the main closure zone.

 

All areas on the Gifford Pinchot National Forest not affected by the closure are still open to public access. The Forest reminds visitors that camping is allowed in approved areas only.

 

Trails Notices

October 14, 2004 - Current trail closures include all trails within five miles of the lava dome, including:

 

#184-Lava Canyon

#207-Truman

#216-Loowit

#216A-Ptarmigan

#227-Independence Pass

#234-Ape Canyon

#237-Blue Lake

#238-Toutle

#240-Sheep Canyon

#229-Hummock

#211-Birth of a Lakes

#224-Harmony