Brasileiro Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I just saw on garmin.com the new editions to the 76 series. Color screens and 115 mb of memory. Maybe I'll postpone my 60cs purchase. Quote Link to comment
+The Cached Potatoes Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Hmmmmm.... The new 76cs will have (vs 60cs): * 115 mb of memory, instead of 56 mb. * Color screen is a little smaller, 1.2" w x 2.2" h vs. 1.5" w x 2.2" h. * However, both have the same number of pixels, 240 x 160. * It's a little bigger and heavier (tougher?), designed for marine use. * Apparently no "geocaching mode", which in its current incarnation is kind of a dud anyway. * Aprx. $50 more... Hmmmm.... Quote Link to comment
thcri Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Hmmmmm.... The new 76cs will have (vs 60cs): * 115 mb of memory, instead of 56 mb. * Color screen is a little smaller, 1.2" w x 2.2" h vs. 1.5" w x 2.2" h. * However, both have the same number of pixels, 240 x 160. * It's a little bigger and heavier (tougher?), designed for marine use. * Apparently no "geocaching mode", which in its current incarnation is kind of a dud anyway. * Aprx. $50 more... Hmmmm.... The fifty more is worth the extra memory. But since my CSTSS is not so good I don't think I would want the smaller screen!! Another thing is I am without a GPS right now so I will stick with the CS coming soon I hope rather than wait until second quarter. murph Quote Link to comment
Us 5 Camp Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 (edited) Hmmm???.... May have to get one of these! EDIT Edited February 13, 2004 by Us 5 Camp Quote Link to comment
+CurmudgeonlyGal Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Even though the new screen is microscopically smaller on the Map 76C/S, isn't the resolution higher than that of the Map 76/S series? Although the memory is QUITE appealing, I found the 76 series to be too big for me to comfortably hold. (I have owned and used a 76S in the past.) Looking forward to hearing about this when people start getting them, though! -=- michelle Quote Link to comment
+RocketMan Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 (edited) dadgum - I did not need this fly in the ointment. I had my heart set on the 60CS, but now this has me second guessing. The extra memory is hard to pass up, but I think the 60CS looks like a better choice for what I will use it for (Driving and Geocaching). There - I made up my mind to stick with the 60CS. RM Edit: Now if they come out with a color/higher memory version of the GPS V, I will really be pissed off. Edited February 12, 2004 by Rocket Man Quote Link to comment
iesrick Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I was all set to order the 60C this morning when I did a last minute check to the Garmin site and saw the 76C and 76CS. I definitely want the larger memory and also the Marine Point database that is preinstalled on the 76 series. I have the map 76 and the tide and marine marker info is very convenient to me. Most important though is the buttons on top. I find this position allows me to have a more secure single handed use of the unit with no chance if dropping it. With the buttons on the bottom, the unit is top heavy and hanging off/out of the hand and the thumb is contorted to press the closer buttons. Just my personal findings from my past usage. Maybe it was a blessing in disguise that I had trouble finding stock on the 60C because I am definitely waiting for the 76C! Quote Link to comment
Bobthearch Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I'd pay $50 extra for color and more memory. I don't think the screen shrinkage is significant - as long as it's not a tiny eTrex screen. Sure would like to see SD card slot and USB added... -Bob Quote Link to comment
Us 5 Camp Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 (edited) EDIT: deleted erroneous refernce to smaller screen. Screen is same as 76x and 60x... Autorouting, 115Mb, floats.... and according to one vendor, $35 higher than 60cs.... seems like a good price for double the memory! Edited February 13, 2004 by Us 5 Camp Quote Link to comment
Fire Eater Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Everyone cancel their orders for the 60c! Do you see all the extras with the 76c and 76cs.....come on you know you want it...double the memory, floats, and marine stuff....cancel and order the 76c or 76cs.....THIS WAY I CAN GET MY 60C THAT HAS BEEN ON BACKORDER FOREVER AND A DAY!!! Fire Eater Quote Link to comment
+CurmudgeonlyGal Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Looks like they're just using the same screen that's on the 60C/S in the new 76C/S... On the Garmin website they're saying it's 38mm width-wise on both the 60 and the 76. I'll also be interested to see if they change the way the menus are set up - same as the 76 series, or move more toward whate they've done with the eTrex/V/60 series. -=- michelle Quote Link to comment
+CurmudgeonlyGal Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 (edited) Everyone cancel their orders for the 60c! Do you see all the extras with the 76c and 76cs.....come on you know you want it...double the memory, floats, and marine stuff....cancel and order the 76c or 76cs.....THIS WAY I CAN GET MY 60C THAT HAS BEEN ON BACKORDER FOREVER AND A DAY!!! Fire Eater New stock due in today: GPSNow! Edited February 12, 2004 by CurmudgeonlyGal Quote Link to comment
Us 5 Camp Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Even though the new screen is microscopically smaller on the Map 76C/S, isn't the resolution higher than that of the Map 76/S series? Although the memory is QUITE appealing, I found the 76 series to be too big for me to comfortably 2hold. (I have owned and used a 76S in the past.) Looking forward to hearing about this when people start getting them, though! -=- michelle 76s spec reads: 180x240 res. 1.6x2.2" size for the screen 76CS spec reads: 160x240 res. 1.2x2.2" size Autorouting, 115Mb, floats.... and according to one vendor, $35 higher than 60cs.... seems like a good price for double the memory! As of this posting, Garmin updated their webpage for the 76CS and the screen size now listed is updated to read: (1.5" W x 2.2" H; 2.6" diagonally) or same as new 60C/CS Now I'm happy... Quote Link to comment
+PDOP's Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 (edited) Sure would like to see SD card slot and USB added... -Bob It does have USB. Quoting from the Garmin website "USB connectivity for quick chart and map downloads" Edited February 12, 2004 by PDOP's Quote Link to comment
+shegget Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 *twitch* *twitch* this could convince me to replace my 76s... 4.8x the memory, better battery life, color screen, usb, and autorouting??? yum. Quote Link to comment
Hankhan Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Hmmmmm.... The new 76cs will have (vs 60cs): * 115 mb of memory, instead of 56 mb. * Color screen is a little smaller, 1.2" w x 2.2" h vs. 1.5" w x 2.2" h. * However, both have the same number of pixels, 240 x 160. * It's a little bigger and heavier (tougher?), designed for marine use. * Apparently no "geocaching mode", which in its current incarnation is kind of a dud anyway. * Aprx. $50 more... Hmmmm.... Both the 76 units have 1.5X2.2 screen size - Garmin lists the 60 series as the same screen size of 1.5X2.2. Where did you see the 1.2X2.2 size? Quote Link to comment
Mythos Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Both the 76 units have 1.5X2.2 screen size - Garmin lists the 60 series as the same screen size of 1.5X2.2. Where did you see the 1.2X2.2 size? I think there was a mistake on garmin.com about screen size that was corrected after a few hours. Quote Link to comment
pitchblende Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Are we sure about the autorouting capability? It is described as "Basemap Autorouting" on the Garmin website, implying that it is not full autorouting that would work with downloaded maps. Quote Link to comment
gessner17 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 THIS WAY I CAN GET MY 60C THAT HAS BEEN ON BACKORDER FOREVER AND A DAY!!! Fire eater, PM me and I will let you know a place that probably has them in stock. Quote Link to comment
+Volwrath Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I want garmin to release a memory upgrade for the 60 series! Quote Link to comment
+Larebel Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 And I ordered a 60c YESTERDAY Quote Link to comment
Brasileiro Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 Are we sure about the autorouting capability? It is described as "Basemap Autorouting" on the Garmin website, implying that it is not full autorouting that would work with downloaded maps. This is off of Intel's site about the 76CS, "Includes a built-in Americas Autoroute basemap with auto-routing capabilities, including highways, exits, and tide data (U.S. only)" Quote Link to comment
+Volwrath Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 And I ordered a 60c YESTERDAY Hehe I received mine yesterday. Its awesome Dont fret! Quote Link to comment
Hankhan Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Are we sure about the autorouting capability? It is described as "Basemap Autorouting" on the Garmin website, implying that it is not full autorouting that would work with downloaded maps. I saw that same wording this am and called Garmin. I asked if it was the same auto-routing as offered on the 60 series and was told "Yes, exactly the same". I replaced the 60CS I had on order with the 76CS. Unless I'm missing something (and I often am) I can't see any downside to swapping the 60CS for the 76CS. The additional memory for about $40 looks like a real bargin. Quote Link to comment
thcri Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I think I am going to call Gpsdiscount and see if they will let me trade up. My only problem is I am without a GPS and don't know if I want to wait until second quarter. But maybe I will. murph Quote Link to comment
umc Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Nice, now when they send a unit like this or the 60cs out that takes a memory card we'll be all set. I wonder why they haven't done this yet. I was thinking about a 60cs too but now this sure does look like the way to go. All I saw on the 76cs was a USB interface from the product page whereas the 60cs has both USB and RS232. You can forget about downloading your waypoints/PQs without a serial interface. Neither EasyGPS or ExpertGPS support USB and I've yet to find a way to import a PQ into the Mapsource software. I know its a task to do so now with my 2610. I have to load them to my gps V first then back to Mapsource from the V then from Mapsource to my 2610 via USB. That works for me since it allows me to have the same waypoints on both units but a pain none the less. If you don't have a Garmin serial gps I'm not sure how you would do it. Quote Link to comment
+Volwrath Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 You can forget about downloading your waypoints/PQs without a serial interface. Neither EasyGPS or ExpertGPS support USB and I've yet to find a way to import a PQ into the Mapsource software. No way dude, either use easymps or the new g7towin (havent tried but should work) Quote Link to comment
thcri Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 You can forget about downloading your waypoints/PQs without a serial interface. Neither EasyGPS or ExpertGPS support USB and I've yet to find a way to import a PQ into the Mapsource software. I know that the developer of Easy and Expert GPS is working on a fix for the USB port. murph Quote Link to comment
+Right Wing Wacko Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 All I saw on the 76cs was a USB interface from the product page whereas the 60cs has both USB and RS232. You can forget about downloading your waypoints/PQs without a serial interface. Neither EasyGPS or ExpertGPS support USB and I've yet to find a way to import a PQ into the Mapsource software. I use Mapsource to upload my PQ's to my V, so I don't see this as any different. GPSBABEL will convert GPX to MPS and it works great! EasyGPS lately has been dropping tons of caches from the list, It seems to have developed some bugs Quote Link to comment
martmann Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 I have done my best to scale the two the same, (by making the screen size the same). Quote Link to comment
+RocketMan Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 I have done my best to scale the two the same, (by making the screen size the same). There sure is a lot of real estate on the front of the 76s compared to the size of the screen. The layout of the 60CS seems to be a much better use of space if you ask me. RM Quote Link to comment
+jotne Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 All I saw on the 76cs was a USB interface from the product page whereas the 60cs has both USB and RS232 I guess it have Serial, due to compability with pc-plotting etc. Quote Link to comment
+apersson850 Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 If you consider that the 76CS has the same kind of antenna, but under the hood, then you realize they are the same size. Quote Link to comment
martmann Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Looks like it has more meat on either side of the screen. Quote Link to comment
Us 5 Camp Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 (edited) I have done my best to scale the two the same, (by making the screen size the same). Image removed from quote..... In case you're wondering what's under the case, here's link to an older thread with pictures of What's under the hood of a GPSMAP 76s I imagine the layout of the new 76CS is very similar... NOTE: The link is to 76s NOT 76CS insides... Edited February 13, 2004 by Us 5 Camp Quote Link to comment
+GOT GPS? Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Backside of GPS Map76S: where the USB should be(MY GUESS) Quote Link to comment
pitchblende Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 I have a 60CS on order and I'm tempted to get the 76CS one big question is whether the reception (especially under tree cover) would be inferior to the 60CS because of the antenna, which looks like the Vista patch antenna which I found to be lacking in comparison to my V. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment
+Volwrath Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 It has the same quad helix antenna as the 60cs Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 I have a 60CS on order and I'm tempted to get the 76CS one big question is whether the reception (especially under tree cover) would be inferior to the 60CS because of the antenna, which looks like the Vista patch antenna which I found to be lacking in comparison to my V. Any thoughts? The type of antenna, patch or quad, is not anywhere near as important as the view of the sky the antenna has. For this reason, the V will continue to be superior, as you can aim it to the sky. You'll get tired after a mile or so holding on to your unit, while trying to keep it pointed up. The V can be placed into a shirt pocket, or in a pouch on your pack strap and the anttena adjusted for the best view. Same thing in your window seat on a commercial airliner. Quote Link to comment
martmann Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 You'll get tired after a mile or so holding on to your unit, while trying to keep it pointed up. Quote Link to comment
+FunYet Posted February 14, 2004 Share Posted February 14, 2004 As much as I've looked forward to receiving my 60cs decided to cancel my order and put in an order for the 76cs. What's a few more months? I already have a 76s so I have the case, accessories, etc. (I assume they'll all fit). Deciding factors for me were the extra memory and the less than stellar reviews of the geocaching feature of the 60cs. Quote Link to comment
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