+Warriorrider Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I finally found a yellow jeep and was able to get a pic of it and wanted to log it in the Yellow Jeep Fever cache page. I see that it has been archived but people are still logging it as a find. I thought it was a no-no to log an archived cache. Am I wrong? Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 If you find a cache that has been archived, but it is still where the cache page says it should be, go ahead and log it as a find (assuming you signed the log) The yellow jeep locationless was archived because it was causing problems with pocket queries. Now that it is inactive, it doesn't show up in PQ's. Problem solved, go ahead and log it. Quote Link to comment
+ChrisCindy Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 If you find a cache that has been archived, but it is still where the cache page says it should be, go ahead and log it as a find (assuming you signed the log) The yellow jeep locationless was archived because it was causing problems with pocket queries. Now that it is inactive, it doesn't show up in PQ's. Problem solved, go ahead and log it. Is that the official stand or the Sax-stand on that issue? Quote Link to comment
+wildearth2001 Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 If you find a cache that has been archived, but it is still where the cache page says it should be, go ahead and log it as a find (assuming you signed the log) The yellow jeep locationless was archived because it was causing problems with pocket queries. Now that it is inactive, it doesn't show up in PQ's. Problem solved, go ahead and log it. Is that the official stand or the Sax-stand on that issue? It my stand as well. So thats two of us I guess that makes it offical until we are told otherwise by Jeremy or Hydee Quote Link to comment
Dinoprophet Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 It's really the cache owner's call. TPTB haven't disallowed it in the site's programming, so they must at least be open to the idea. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 My feeling is that you should email the cache owner. If its OK with him, log it. If he doesn't return your email, use your best judgement. Quote Link to comment
+wildearth2001 Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 My feeling is that you should email the cache owner. If its OK with him, log it. If he doesn't return your email, use your best judgement. with YJF it wasn't the owner who archived it so I'm fairly sure Wyle E wouldn't mind Quote Link to comment
+Team GPSaxophone Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 If you find a cache that has been archived, but it is still where the cache page says it should be, go ahead and log it as a find (assuming you signed the log) The yellow jeep locationless was archived because it was causing problems with pocket queries. Now that it is inactive, it doesn't show up in PQ's. Problem solved, go ahead and log it. Is that the official stand or the Sax-stand on that issue? It my stand as well. So thats two of us I guess that makes it offical until we are told otherwise by Jeremy or Hydee Thanks, wildearth. C&C: Quote Link to comment
+Ltljon Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 I've logged a couple of caches that were archived because I did find them (by reason of an old printout) & signed the log but the owner thought they were missing. In the case of Yellow Jeep, go for it, you found it. Quote Link to comment
+Warriorrider Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 Very cool. Thanks for the replies, all. Quote Link to comment
+Lazyboy & Mitey Mite Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 I've logged a couple of archived caches without problems. Quote Link to comment
+Perrin Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 I actually found one that the cache owner archived because he couldn't find it any more and thought it had been stolen. He was very happy to find out that I found it, and never would have known if I hadn't logged it as a find. I later e-mailed him and told him exactly where I found it so he could find and rehide it where he wanted. I say go for it as far as the Yellow Jeep goes. Just wish I had thought about doing this too since I found a yellow jeep a couple days ago while caching. Knew about the cache, knew it was archived, should have taken the pic and logged it I guess I'll just have to remember this for next time I see one, if I ever find one again Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Some people take weeks before they log a find. They need to be able to log archived caches in the event it was archived it between the time they found it and the time they finally got down in front of the computer to log it. Quote Link to comment
+Lazyboy & Mitey Mite Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Some people take weeks before they log a find. They need to be able to log archived caches in the event it was archived it between the time they found it and the time they finally got down in front of the computer to log it. This just happened to us. We found a cache last friday and couldn't log it until monday evening. It was archived by the time we got home. I logged it and mentioned in the log that I hoped it wasn't a problem. It appears it wasn't Quote Link to comment
+Laserman Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 (edited) I later e-mailed him and told him exactly where I found it so he could find and rehide it where he wanted. I did that once, guess what, he deleted my log. And everyone elses logs who had found it, due to the fact that someone before me moved it. Then he even archived the cache rather than just rehiding it. I could never figure out the motives for his actions. Still bugs me well over a year later. Any way, you find it, you sign the paper log, why shouldn't you be able to log it online? Edited February 11, 2004 by Laserman Quote Link to comment
+Lazyboy & Mitey Mite Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 I did that once, guess what, he deleted my log. And everyone elses logs who had found it, due to the fact that someone before me moved it. Then he even archived the cache rather than just rehiding it. I could never figure out the motives for his actions. Still bugs me well over a year later. I can't imagine why someone would delete a log from a finder. Go figure. Quote Link to comment
+Laserman Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 I can't imagine why someone would delete a log from a finder. Go figure. The thing that really bugged me about this situation is that he deleted everyones log from first finder on. Punish everyone because one person moved the darn thing. Quote Link to comment
+Gaddiel Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 We logged a cache that had been archived, but were contacted by an approver who asked us to remove our log (we promptly did). Turns out that the cache was on land owned by the Arkansas State Parks and did not have the proper approval. In this case, logging the find would essentially be saying to the state parks people that geocachers were ignoring the rules (not a good impression). Quote Link to comment
+Lone Duck Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 There's a virtual cache in my area, Visible Gas Pump , that got archived a couple of months back, and yet people are still reporting finds for it. (It's still on my Watch list) My question is, does it still count as a found cache for the that person's stats? I'm not seeing their logs show up there so I'm curious about it. Quote Link to comment
+9Key Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 The Visible Gas Pump cache is a Locationless. There aren't any Find logs on the cache after the archive date. To answer your question, yes, logging a Find on an archived cache counts. Quote Link to comment
+robert Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 The Visible Gas Pump cache is a Locationless. There aren't any Find logs on the cache after the archive date. 9key: They may be being deleted by the owner... if LoneDuck has them in his watchlist he'll continue to get emails. Quote Link to comment
+joefrog Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 I made a request to the owner to adopt that cache a few weeks back to keep it in circulation. I have a find, but since it was archived I didn't log it. I love antique items like that, and think it's a shame to archive it -- especially since it's a locationless and they're currently not allowing others. The owner's *eventual* reply to my request was "no thank you." Have no idea WHY, but I suppose that's his choice. Quote Link to comment
+Lazyboy & Mitey Mite Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 The thing that really bugged me about this situation is that he deleted everyones log from first finder on. Punish everyone because one person moved the darn thing. There are no minimum standards to be a cacher. Even idiots are allowed. Quote Link to comment
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