Non-trademarked alternatives for "muggle"

[+MartyBartfast 475]

I'm looking for alternatives to use "Non-geocachers" just doesn't sound as appealing

There are a lot of threads asking about other terms. That's plenty of reading, but you still may not find a definitive list.

 

Are you trying to make T-shirts or stickers or something, and the printer (especially Cafepress!) refuses to allow what they've decided is "copyrighted material"? If so, change the phrase. One option is to use the term "people", as in "I tried to hunt that Geocache, but there were too may people!"

 

It's a card game. Though Warner Bros don't "own" the term as such, they do have the rights in print. I was going to use "Muggle-cards" and "Muggle-tokens".

 

Ah, so we come up with a new term for "non cachers", get it into common use, you create a card game using it, then trademark the term to protect your intellectual property, and we're back to square one

 

Hahahaha, well that's not what I was thinking, but I guess if the game became super successful and I turned greedy, sure

 

Though worth noting it's not JK Rowling, the author of Harry Potter, who has trademarked the term.

 

Well JK Rowling made a few $$, so good luck with it!

 

It doesn't sound like there's a simple answer for your case, and I suspect making up cards with Muggle on them would make you a target for the lawyers.

 

I wonder if you might get away with GeoMuggle?

[+TeamRabbitRun 242]

I'm looking for alternatives to use "Non-geocachers" just doesn't sound as appealing

There are a lot of threads asking about other terms. That's plenty of reading, but you still may not find a definitive list.

 

Are you trying to make T-shirts or stickers or something, and the printer (especially Cafepress!) refuses to allow what they've decided is "copyrighted material"? If so, change the phrase. One option is to use the term "people", as in "I tried to hunt that Geocache, but there were too may people!"

 

It's a card game. Though Warner Bros don't "own" the term as such, they do have the rights in print. I was going to use "Muggle-cards" and "Muggle-tokens".

 

Ah, so we come up with a new term for "non cachers", get it into common use, you create a card game using it, then trademark the term to protect your intellectual property, and we're back to square one

 

Hahahaha, well that's not what I was thinking, but I guess if the game became super successful and I turned greedy, sure

 

Though worth noting it's not JK Rowling, the author of Harry Potter, who has trademarked the term.

 

Well JK Rowling made a few $$, so good luck with it!

 

It doesn't sound like there's a simple answer for your case, and I suspect making up cards with Muggle on them would make you a target for the lawyers.

 

I wonder if you might get away with GeoMuggle?

 

Obvious derivatives might be subject to trademark law, as well.

[+thebruce0 1378]

I would call them walkers since they are like zombies to which we should not get their attention. That if, I hope AMC does not have the copyright of the word: p

I like this one!

 

And The Unacquainted suggested earlier sounds right out of Steven King...

 

But I'd bet the OP doesn't use word "pedestrian" to mean non-cachers, on the T-Shirt quote.

Although pedestrian could be a synonym for muggle:

[puh-des-tree-uh n] adjective

4. lacking in vitality, imagination, distinction, etc.; commonplace; prosaic or dull:

 

 

[+MartyBartfast 475]

 

I wonder if you might get away with GeoMuggle?

 

Obvious derivatives might be subject to trademark law, as well.

 

I suppose so, but I think I have the answer:-

 

Zhttyr

 

Has the advantage that only a true Geocacher will understand it .

[+Team Microdot 966]

 

I wonder if you might get away with GeoMuggle?

 

Obvious derivatives might be subject to trademark law, as well.

 

I suppose so, but I think I have the answer:-

 

Zhttyr

 

Has the advantage that only a true Geocacher will understand it .

 

Is there a pronunciation guide for that?

[+TeamRabbitRun 242]

 

I wonder if you might get away with GeoMuggle?

 

Obvious derivatives might be subject to trademark law, as well.

 

I suppose so, but I think I have the answer:-

 

Zhttyr

 

Has the advantage that only a true Geocacher will understand it .

 

That's PERFECT!

 

Like the nose-swipe gesture in "The Sting".

[+kunarion 1323]

is there a less known alternative that could be used instead, which would still make sense to geocachers?

You can scour the many, many threads around here on this exact topic. Or you can brainstorm your own new term. "Geocachers are called 'Cachers', non-cachers are '[term here]'". If it's cool enough, maybe it'll catch on! Whatever you use, many Geocachers will be confused by it. "[Term here]? What's that?!" Even when it's "muggles", you have to explain it often anyway.

 

So here's a list of "non-cacher" terms I just now thought of, as a starting point:

 

normals

colony

charm

swarm

savages

the feral

rabble

undefiled

pod person (pod people)

Edited June 15, 2017 by kunarion

[+kunarion 1323]

Zhttyr

 

Is there a pronunciation guide for that?

I was just wondering that myself.

[+TeamRabbitRun 242]

Zhttyr

 

Is there a pronunciation guide for that?

I was just wondering that myself.

 

"Zitters".

[+kunarion 1323]

"Zitters".

"Got any Zhttyrs in this park?! If so, I gotta go!"

 

"Hey, my cache just got Zhttyred!"

 

Yeah! That is perfect!

Edited June 15, 2017 by kunarion

[+niraD 1858]

I suppose so, but I think I have the answer:-

 

Zhttyr

 

Has the advantage that only a true Geocacher will understand it .

Is there a pronunciation guide for that?

Here's my vote:

 

zhttyr /ˈmə ɡəl/ noun: a person who is not conversant with geocaching

 

It's like the way the word "ghoti" is pronounced /fish/ even if that isn't how people would pronounce it when the first see it.

[+TeamRabbitRun 242]

I suppose so, but I think I have the answer:-

 

Zhttyr

 

Has the advantage that only a true Geocacher will understand it .

Is there a pronunciation guide for that?

Here's my vote:

 

zhttyr /ˈmə ɡəl/ noun: a person who is not conversant with geocaching

 

It's like the way the word "ghoti" is pronounced /fish/ even if that isn't how people would pronounce it when the first see it.

 

"gh" from "laugh"

"o" from "women"

"ti" from "nation"

 

------

 

"fish"

[+hzoi 975]

It's a card game. Though Warner Bros don't "own" the term as such, they do have the rights in print. I was going to use "Muggle-cards" and "Muggle-tokens".

 

So you do want to make a buck off of this. In that case, I'll repeat my earlier statement:

 

If you have a commercial purpose in mind for finding an alternate term, then go hire a lawyer and a market researcher.

 

You'll find that Warner Brothers isn't the only entity around that would have trademarks involved. I'd be more concerned about getting Groundspeak's blessing.

[+Great Scott! 10]

I suppose so, but I think I have the answer:-

 

Zhttyr

 

Has the advantage that only a true Geocacher will understand it .

Is there a pronunciation guide for that?

Here's my vote:

 

zhttyr /ˈmə ɡəl/ noun: a person who is not conversant with geocaching

 

It's like the way the word "ghoti" is pronounced /fish/ even if that isn't how people would pronounce it when the first see it.

 

"gh" from "laugh"

"o" from "women"

"ti" from "nation"

 

------

 

"fish"

 

the "o" from "women" would make ghoti pronounced more like foosh.

[+Team Microdot 966]

I suppose so, but I think I have the answer:-

 

Zhttyr

 

Has the advantage that only a true Geocacher will understand it .

Is there a pronunciation guide for that?

Here's my vote:

 

zhttyr /ˈmə ɡəl/ noun: a person who is not conversant with geocaching

 

It's like the way the word "ghoti" is pronounced /fish/ even if that isn't how people would pronounce it when the first see it.

 

"gh" from "laugh"

"o" from "women"

"ti" from "nation"

 

------

 

"fish"

 

the "o" from "women" would make ghoti pronounced more like foosh.

 

Only if women were pronounced woomen - which it isn't.

[+HHL 361]

The "o" in women is pronounced like an "e".

[+Team Microdot 966]

The "o" in women is pronounced like an "e".

 

No it isn't.

 

The o in women is pronounced in the same way as the i in fish - hence the joke.

[+Great Scott! 10]

wimen ?

[+HHL 361]

wimen ?

 

Ja.

Women (click here)

Edited June 16, 2017 by HHL

[+TeamRabbitRun 242]

I suppose so, but I think I have the answer:-

 

Zhttyr

 

Has the advantage that only a true Geocacher will understand it .

Is there a pronunciation guide for that?

Here's my vote:

 

zhttyr /ˈmə ɡəl/ noun: a person who is not conversant with geocaching

 

It's like the way the word "ghoti" is pronounced /fish/ even if that isn't how people would pronounce it when the first see it.

 

"gh" from "laugh"

"o" from "women"

"ti" from "nation"

 

------

 

"fish"

 

the "o" from "women" would make ghoti pronounced more like foosh.

 

Difference between 'women' (plural) and 'woman'(singular).

 

A singular woman would 'foosh', but several of them would fish. Hopefully, catch some.

[+Corp Of Discovery 8]

How about just plain, ordinary 'civilians'?

[+niraD 1858]

How about just plain, ordinary 'civilians'?

steaufolleieigpn

 

st as in listen

eau as in bureaucrat

f as in of

o as in women

lle as in gazelle

i as in onion

eig as in foreign

pn as in pneumonia

 

pronounced /səˈvilyən/

[+Bigmada 0]

I was caching for about three years before I found out muggle was something to do with Harry Potter.

 

Nonplayers works for me.

[+thebruce0 1378]

steaufolleieigpn

 

st as in listen

eau as in bureaucrat

f as in of

o as in women

lle as in gazelle

i as in onion

eig as in foreign

pn as in pneumonia

 

pronounced /səˈvilyən/

*standing ovation*

One could make another "language" like that - have a grammar reference for possible letter representations, and form entire phrases with it. Someone's got to have put this together already... the internet cannot fail us now.

Could be a good puzzle cache code

 

[+ADKer 0]

So, put it together "geognorant"

 

Sounds like a brand named Geo-deodorant!

[+dicentra 1]

Few, knitters also use the term muggles to describe non-knitters.

[Dragon Rustler 0]

As a Potter fan, I don't use the term muggle in geocaching.

I use uninitiated.

[+RocTheCacheBox 33]

As a grumpy old man I just refer to them as -

"An Annoyance" 

[+J Grouchy 638]

Latest email from Geocaching HQ...just throwing it out there:

 

[+J Grouchy 638]

Also this: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/harry-potter-words/muggle

[Gabeman26 16]

Maybe NGC , Non Geo-Cacher.

Look this is a NGC heavy area.

 

Let's wait for the NGC to move on.

[+K13 718]

The horse has left the barn on this term. Muggles are what we call them, and that ain't about to change.

[+hzoi 975]

Lest we forget, the OP on this two year old thread originally posed this question not out of intellectual curiosity or for general discussion, but specifically because they wanted to make a buck on geocaching with their own card game and didn't want to get sued by Warner Brothers.  They had a personal financial incentive for wanting to change the term.

 

The rest of us don't, and I absolutely concur with @K13 on this one - the horse is gone, waaaay gone on this one.  Doesn't matter if you're a Potter fan or not.  In fact, you can be a Frozen fan and just..."let it go, let it goooooo..."

[+niraD 1858]

4 hours ago, hzoi said:

In fact, you can be a Frozen fan and just..."let it go, let it goooooo..."

Or, if you're a Zootopia fan, you might realize that life isn't some cartoon musical where you sing a little song (or post to a forum) and all your insipid dreams magically come true. So you let it go.