DNF count in user page... DNF pride!

Posted October 14, 2014 · October 14, 2014

Well, so much for that! I guess GS just don't like us chinldren.

Posted October 14, 2014 · October 14, 2014

You can try something like this now:

64 Dnf Logs

</div>

46 Caches Hidden

</div>

Edited October 14, 2014 by fbingha

Posted October 14, 2014 · October 14, 2014

Due to the new layout of the profile page (it looks very ugly now) the DNF count display is broken.

I just need Moun10bike to come through with the smaller frownie icon

Posted October 14, 2014 · October 14, 2014

Well, that was fun while it lasted. For now, I've just got the DNF info as a line of text at the bottom of my Profile page.

Depending on what they fix/break next, I may expand on the basic statement to say how many individual caches were involved, how many I have returned to find at a later date, how many have been archived, etc.

Posted October 14, 2014 · October 14, 2014

You can try something like this now:

<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-195px; left:66px; height:0px;'>

<img style="vertical-align:sub" src='/images/icons/32/dnf.png' alt='' height="16" width="16" />

64 Dnf Logs

</div>

<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-195px; left:104px; height:0px;'>

<img style="vertical-align:sub; margin-left:5px" src='/images/wpttypes/2.gif' alt='' height="16" width="16" />

46 Caches Hidden

</div>

Of course the moment I reply, my prayers are answered. Thanks fbingha!

Posted October 14, 2014 · October 14, 2014

You can try something like this now:

<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-195px; left:66px; height:0px;'>

<img style="vertical-align:sub" src='/images/icons/32/dnf.png' alt='' height="16" width="16" />

64 Dnf Logs

</div>

<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-195px; left:104px; height:0px;'>

<img style="vertical-align:sub; margin-left:5px" src='/images/wpttypes/2.gif' alt='' height="16" width="16" />

46 Caches Hidden

</div>

Very nicely done fbingha. This looks very good. I just had to tweak the positions a little bit to get them to line up exactly but it worked great.

Posted October 14, 2014 · October 14, 2014

Yes, thanks for that fbingha. It will need tweaking when I hit 1000 caches or 100 DNF logs but, by then, Groundspeak will have changed everything again so it really won't matter.

Thanks again

Tony

Posted October 14, 2014 · October 14, 2014

I had to tweek mine... this was the code for me:

<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-219px; left:394px; height:0px;'>
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<img style="vertical-align:sub" src='/images/icons/32/dnf.png' alt='' height="15" width="15" />
376 DNF Logs
</div>

Cheers!

Posted October 15, 2014 · October 15, 2014

Works perfectly, JPreto. Thanks.

Posted October 15, 2014 · October 15, 2014

I did the following ... though it doesn't seem to come out well on a mobile browser ...

<div class="player-stats" style="position:relative; top:-195px; left:67px;">
<div id="ctl00_ContentBody_ProfilePanel2_Panel_DNFs" class="stat"><img src="/images/icons/32/dnf.png" alt="" height="16" width="16" /> 243 ISAG!</div>
</div>
<div class="player-stats" style="position:relative; top:-214px; left:235px;">
<div id="ctl00_ContentBody_ProfilePanel3_Panel_Benchmarks" class="stat"><img src="/images/mark/27.gif" alt="" height="16" width="16" /> 177 Benchmarks Found</div>
</div>

Will have to look at others' suggestions ...

Posted October 15, 2014 · October 15, 2014

With a little trial and error I used the following:

<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-195px; left:66px; height:0px;'>
<img style="vertical-align:sub" src='/images/icons/32/dnf.png' alt='' height="16" width="16" />
104 DNF Logs</div> 

<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-195px; left:105px; height:0px;'>
<img style="vertical-align:sub; margin-left:5px" src='http://imgcdn.geocaching.com/cache/large/3e232525-2acb-49ad-a68c-e663e96ac032.gif' alt='' height="16" width="16" />
143 GC43F3 - Brass Cap Cache Logs</div>

<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-195px; left:114px; height:0px;'>
<img style="vertical-align:sub; margin-left:5px" src='http://imgcdn.geocaching.com/cache/large/4e28ea3f-085f-42d5-9cf5-8ff6b08e980d.png' alt='' height="16" width="16" />
07 Challenge Caches</div>

<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-215px; left:-59px; height:0px;'>
<img style="vertical-align:sub; margin-left:5px" src='/images/wpttypes/2.gif' alt='' height="16" width="16" />
34 Hidden Caches</div>

Posted October 15, 2014 · October 15, 2014

I did end up editing the code on mine and got it in place. Since the other boxes are now gone, it doesn't match like it used to. On the plus side, this does seem to make it stand out better.

Posted October 20, 2014 · October 20, 2014

Luckily I find every single cache I've ever searched for so I don't need that box.

Posted October 20, 2014 · October 20, 2014

Mine is updated as well. Works.

Posted October 20, 2014 · October 20, 2014

Mine is updated as well. Works.

Tried looking at your profile using both, Explorer 10 and latest version of Chrome. They both show your DNF text to be a tad bit below the found and trackable texts.

Posted October 20, 2014 · October 20, 2014

Mine is updated as well. Works.

Tried looking at your profile using both, Explorer 10 and latest version of Chrome. They both show your DNF text to be a tad bit below the found and trackable texts.

Yup, "Terrain" in your case you should try this code:

<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-229px; left:408px; height:0px;'>
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<img style="vertical-align:sub" src='/images/icons/32/dnf.png' alt='' height="15" width="15" />
376 DNF Logs
</div>

The problem is only TOP position that should be -229px for him... This depends on the size of the picture you use!

Posted October 20, 2014 · October 20, 2014

Mine is updated as well. Works.

Tried looking at your profile using both, Explorer 10 and latest version of Chrome. They both show your DNF text to be a tad bit below the found and trackable texts.

Yup, "Terrain" in your case you should try this code:
<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-229px; left:408px; height:0px;'>
| 
<img style="vertical-align:sub" src='/images/icons/32/dnf.png' alt='' height="15" width="15" />
376 DNF Logs
</div> 
The problem is only TOP position that should be -229px for him... This depends on the size of the picture you use!

I do a lot of browsing through my phone and the codes used placed the dnf count over the location section - as it does with yours and other people who are using this code (mudfrog, terratin). So I deleted it until I have time to work further with it or find a profile where the display is cleaner. I am probably one of the few who will ever look at my profile - and even one of the fewer who are likely to look at it through a phone - but because I do, it got in the way for me and that was enough.

Edited October 20, 2014 by geodarts

Posted October 20, 2014 · October 20, 2014

Mine is updated as well. Works.

Tried looking at your profile using both, Explorer 10 and latest version of Chrome. They both show your DNF text to be a tad bit below the found and trackable texts.

Yup, "Terrain" in your case you should try this code:
<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-229px; left:408px; height:0px;'>
| 
<img style="vertical-align:sub" src='/images/icons/32/dnf.png' alt='' height="15" width="15" />
376 DNF Logs
</div> 
The problem is only TOP position that should be -229px for him... This depends on the size of the picture you use!
I do a lot of browsing through my phone and the codes used placed the dnf count over the location section - as it does with yours and other people who are using this code (mudfrog, terratin). So I deleted it until I have time to work further with it or find a profile where the display is cleaner. I am probably one of the few who will ever look at my profile - and even one of the fewer who are likely to look at it through a phone - but because I do, it got in the way for me and that was enough.

The problem is the "responsiveness" of the general Groundspeak page... It will be very difficult, if not impossible, to make some coding that will work both in "normal" browsers and "mobile" browsers.

Check back if you can solve this problem! Thanks!

Posted October 21, 2014 · October 21, 2014

Mine is updated as well. Works.

Tried looking at your profile using both, Explorer 10 and latest version of Chrome. They both show your DNF text to be a tad bit below the found and trackable texts.

Yup, "Terrain" in your case you should try this code:
<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-229px; left:408px; height:0px;'>
| 
<img style="vertical-align:sub" src='/images/icons/32/dnf.png' alt='' height="15" width="15" />
376 DNF Logs
</div> 
The problem is only TOP position that should be -229px for him... This depends on the size of the picture you use!
I do a lot of browsing through my phone and the codes used placed the dnf count over the location section - as it does with yours and other people who are using this code (mudfrog, terratin). So I deleted it until I have time to work further with it or find a profile where the display is cleaner. I am probably one of the few who will ever look at my profile - and even one of the fewer who are likely to look at it through a phone - but because I do, it got in the way for me and that was enough.

Well, since you have Earthcaches (including one of my favorite ones ), people will at least briefly see your profile when they email you the answers to the ECs.

Posted October 25, 2014 · October 25, 2014

Mine is updated as well. Works.

Tried looking at your profile using both, Explorer 10 and latest version of Chrome. They both show your DNF text to be a tad bit below the found and trackable texts.

Also works with Safari 5.1.10 after a bit of messing about with the numbers. Thanks for the idea and information.

Edited October 25, 2014 by edscott

Posted October 25, 2014 · October 25, 2014

I couldn't get mine straight.

Figure I'll wait a bit, as it'll probably get vaporized again anyway when the next update hits.

Posted October 27, 2014 · October 27, 2014

I just edited my profile. Now my current DNF count is my entire bio. Took about as long as to type this post. :rolleyes:

Posted October 28, 2014 · October 28, 2014

I couldn't get mine straight.

Figure I'll wait a bit, as it'll probably get vaporized again anyway when the next update hits.

Just noticed that they changed the font for the Founds & Trackables and thus screwed up the placement of the DNFs.

Posted October 28, 2014 · October 28, 2014

I couldn't get mine straight.

Figure I'll wait a bit, as it'll probably get vaporized again anyway when the next update hits.

Just noticed that they changed the font for the Founds & Trackables and thus screwed up the placement of the DNFs.

Not so hot with tech, but get companies correct. :laughing:

Posted October 28, 2014 · October 28, 2014

Not so hot with tech, but get companies correct.

Huh? :huh:

Posted October 28, 2014 · October 28, 2014

Not so hot with tech, but get companies correct.

Huh?

Takes me forever to figure this stuff out, but kinda knew it'd get messed up again. Bigger mistakes an' all...

It is easier to read now though.

Posted October 28, 2014 · October 28, 2014

Yeah, looks like the latest update increased the font size in the profile page, and the DNF positioning needed another round of tweaking to get it right (top:-227px; left:463px works for me after I nuked location). I don't notice any other changes at first glance though. No release notes yet.

Posted October 28, 2014 · October 28, 2014

Yeahh... small ajustments... New code!

<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-226px; left:453px; height:0px;'>
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<img style="vertical-align:sub" src='/images/icons/32/dnf.png' alt='' height="15" width="15" />
376 DNF Logs
</div>

Posted October 29, 2014 · October 29, 2014

Yeahh... small ajustments... New code!

<div class='stat' style='position:relative; top:-226px; left:453px; height:0px;'>
|  
<img style="vertical-align:sub" src='/images/icons/32/dnf.png' alt='' height="15" width="15" />
376 DNF Logs
</div>

Thanks again. There's an old saying about an artist who keeps improving his painting until he royally messes it up beyond all hope. These web designers need to know when to call it good enough.

Posted October 29, 2014 · October 29, 2014

Thanks again. There's an old saying about an artist who keeps improving his painting until he royally messes it up beyond all hope. These web designers need to know when to call it good enough.

Actually I thought this one is an improvement. The old public profile font was a bit small to read comfortably.

Posted October 29, 2014 · October 29, 2014

Actually I thought this one is an improvement. The old public profile font was a bit small to read comfortably.

Personally, I think they should just leave the font size alone. But that approach isn't fashionable among web dezynerz nowadays.

Posted October 29, 2014 · October 29, 2014

Actually I thought this one is an improvement. The old public profile font was a bit small to read comfortably.
Personally, I think they should just leave the font size alone. But that approach isn't fashionable among web dezynerz nowadays.

Yep, doesn't matter that something works great. The fashionable thing to do is to make changes with the times, or in this case, for no reason at all. :blink:

Posted November 3, 2014 · November 3, 2014

Whether the font size needs changing or not, I can't see a good reason the designers' hands should be tied because a small number of users like to play with HTML tricks to make the DNF count appear as it is part the profile generated by Groundspeak.

This thread should named "... HTML/CSS pride" not "... DNF pride!" <_<

Posted November 3, 2014 · November 3, 2014

Whether the font size needs changing or not, I can't see a good reason the designers' hands should be tied because a small number of users like to....

...discuss twisted knickers.

<_< Yeah, you're going straw man on us, Toz. The statement was not to imply that the web site should not change, in order to suit our HTML. The suggestion was to imply that a large number of changes on the web site neither improve nor worsen the design, but change for change's sake, which happens to be an inconvenience to those of us who format our profiles to fit the current design. Indecisiveness can be a problem for any business.

Never mind that, though. Let's talk about twisted knickers and different flavors of ice cream, ubiquitously irrelevant subjects, but ones that find their way into many geocaching discussions.

Posted December 1, 2014 · December 1, 2014

I would have to wonder if it would count:

a.) DNF logs (some caches I have multiple DNF logs on)

b.) # of caches that I have a DNF log on

c.) # of caches that I have not found that I have a DNF log on (eventually resolved)

In my count it shows EVERY DNF I made... multiples and even caches I found later! For me is my DNF count, not the number of caches I DNFed nor the caches I visited and still didn´t find.

I got into this discussion with another cacher a few days ago. He agrees with you that the DNF count is the number of DNF logs a cacher has. This is also the easiest thing to count. I was only counting 1 DNF per cache that I still haven't found. I don't feel like a missing cache that I found later after the CO replaced it should count against me, but I just want to go with whatever everyone else is doing.

So is everyone ok going with the DNF pride count = the total of DNF logs created by the user?

Posted December 1, 2014 · December 1, 2014

So is everyone ok going with the DNF pride count = the total of DNF logs created by the user?

I'd go along with that. It's just like my Note Pride stat. I don't go back and delete a Note Log that "the cache is buried in leaves", even though today it isn't. So the count is the total number of Note Logs. Or in this case, DNFs.

Posted December 1, 2014 · December 1, 2014

I got into this discussion with another cacher a few days ago. He agrees with you that the DNF count is the number of DNF logs a cacher has. This is also the easiest thing to count. I was only counting 1 DNF per cache that I still haven't found. I don't feel like a missing cache that I found later after the CO replaced it should count against me, but I just want to go with whatever everyone else is doing.

So is everyone ok going with the DNF pride count = the total of DNF logs created by the user?

This is exactly what I use, and display on my profile page.

As an aside, I always find it amusing when someone discusses whether a DNF "should count against me". Against what, some imaginary scoreboard in the sky? Is there some punishment for admitting too many DNFs, or some reward for never admitting them? This isn't golf, it's geocaching. The only thing that should really matter is whether you're having fun.

--Larry

Posted December 1, 2014 · December 1, 2014

As an aside, I always find it amusing when someone discusses whether a DNF "should count against me". Against what, some imaginary scoreboard in the sky? Is there some punishment for admitting too many DNFs, or some reward for never admitting them? This isn't golf, it's geocaching. The only thing that should really matter is whether you're having fun.

--Larry

You are totally correct though. In the big scheme of things it really doesn't matter. I see a lot of posts from people saying they are avenging a DNF as if tupperware laying in the woods has murdered their entire family.

Posted December 1, 2014 · December 1, 2014

As an aside, I always find it amusing when someone discusses whether a DNF "should count against me". Against what, some imaginary scoreboard in the sky? Is there some punishment for admitting too many DNFs, or some reward for never admitting them? This isn't golf, it's geocaching. The only thing that should really matter is whether you're having fun.

--Larry

You are totally correct though. In the big scheme of things it really doesn't matter. I see a lot of posts from people saying they are avenging a DNF as if tupperware laying in the woods has murdered their entire family.

It's always fun to "avenge" a DNF, that's part of the thrill of the hunt. Though that term does make it sound a bit more epic than it is.

What I've never understood is what difference it makes whether I have a lot of DNFs or very few DNFs. Maybe I have a lot of DNFs because I go after challenging caches. Maybe I have a lot of DNFs because local cachers are lousy at maintaining their caches and lots of them are actually missing. And maybe I have lots of DNFs because I'm lousy at finding them. Unless all cache hides were created equal (and I can assure you, they're not), comparing DNF counts as part of some made-up competition is completely meaningless.

I include my DNF count in my profile simply because it's just as much a part of my geocaching history as my finds (and some of the stories behind those DNFs are more fun than those behind the finds). I would hope that no one would compare my DNF count or DNF Ratio with theirs or anybody else's. That simply makes no sense to me.

--Larry

Posted December 1, 2014 · December 1, 2014

So is everyone ok going with the DNF pride count = the total of DNF logs created by the user?

I don't see why not. I may be able to find a cache at most once, but I can DNF it multiple times.

We'll address the issue of whether multiple DNF on a cache is cheating when DNF count inflation becomes an issue. Probably won't happen until there's a DNF leaderboard. Or would that be loserboard?

Posted December 1, 2014 · December 1, 2014

So is everyone ok going with the DNF pride count = the total of DNF logs created by the user?

That's what I've been using. Also I added a bit more explanation at the bottom of my Profile Page:

I have posted 235 DNF logs on 221 caches. I went back and found 45 of these later; 63 have been archived.

Posted December 3, 2014 · December 3, 2014

I may be able to find a cache at most once, but I can DNF it multiple times.

Reminds me of the cache Zamecky rybnik which I DNF'ed two times within three days. :rolleyes:

DNF count in user page... DNF pride!

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