Question about a potential brewery series

[+dymogeek]

So I have an idea for a series of caches that I'd like to place highlighting the many craft breweries in the area that I live in. My question is though, would this violate the Groundspeak guidelines (specifically section II, number 4, which prohibits commercial caches)?

 

I do not plan on endorsing the specific breweries any more than to say "There is a brewery here." The cache will be placed in such a way that it will be accessible at all times (not inside the brewery) and will not require any purchases.

 

Thanks for the advice!

[+wimseyguy]

I would suggest creating a sample page and run it by your local reviewer to see how they feel about your text.

You can get 100 answers with 100 opinions in here, and it won't influence their decision.

[+geodarts]

Although precedent does not count for anything, this Brewery series avoided commercial references. I have seen a few others, so with a little care it should not be a problem.

 

Although not at a craft brewer, there used to be a cache near a Budweiser facility called "Beer Makes You Smart." I had to do that one for the title.

Edited September 13, 2013 by geodarts

[+frinklabs]

I am told by Groundspeak that Geocaching is supposed to be family friendly.

 

Approving an alcohol-related cache would be hypocrisy.

[+Panther&Pine]

I am told by Groundspeak that Geocaching is supposed to be family friendly.

 

Approving an alcohol-related cache would be hypocrisy.

Many breweries are actually brew pubs and as a result are very family friendly.

 

Also based on my bolding, we couldn't cache together, caching trips often end with a beer.

Edited September 13, 2013 by MooseJawSpruce

[+wimseyguy]

I am told by Groundspeak that Geocaching is supposed to be family friendly.

Approving an alcohol-related cache would be hypocrisy.

 

Getting drunk before pregnancy could lead to... pregnancy.

How is that not family friendly?

Edited September 13, 2013 by wimseyguy

[+Beach_hut]

I am told by Groundspeak that Geocaching is supposed to be family friendly.

 

Approving an alcohol-related cache would be hypocrisy.

 

The listing guidelines refer to family friendly cache contents. They don't actually forbid cache listings relating to alcohol.

[+Dogmeat*]

It's not commercializing it unless you say things like "stop in for a beer". Just say that the series is based off of the many breweries in the area, and leave it at that and you'll be fine.

[+Harry Dolphin]

I am told by Groundspeak that Geocaching is supposed to be family friendly.

 

Approving an alcohol-related cache would be hypocrisy.

 

And, yet, GS permits caches in parking lots of porn stores. Go figure...

[+Walts Hunting]

I am told by Groundspeak that Geocaching is supposed to be family friendly.

 

Approving an alcohol-related cache would be hypocrisy.

 

Breweries are family friendly.

[GrandPotentate]

I am told by Groundspeak that Geocaching is supposed to be family friendly.

 

Approving an alcohol-related cache would be hypocrisy.

 

The MidWest Geo-Bash, had a bunch of caches published just for this year's theme of Mardi Gras, the cache name was a New Orleans based drink and in the description was the recipe to make the drinks.

[+Don_J]

Although precedent does not count for anything, this Brewery series avoided commercial references. I have seen a few others, so with a little care it should not be a problem.

 

Although not at a craft brewer, there used to be a cache near a Budweiser facility called "Beer Makes You Smart." I had to do that one for the title.

 

Naming it, This Buds for You", probably wouldn't be accepted.

[+ChileHead]

I am told by Groundspeak that Geocaching is supposed to be family friendly.

 

Approving an alcohol-related cache would be hypocrisy.

 

I find the people of walmart as generally not family friendly (have you seen them?) Yet there is a cache in every single walmart parking lot.

[+Walts Hunting]

Are you kiddingi camp in Walmart at least 30 days a year and have found almost everyonei meet very helpful. in facti will be in the Elko one tonight

[+Manville Possum]

I am told by Groundspeak that Geocaching is supposed to be family friendly.

 

Approving an alcohol-related cache would be hypocrisy.

Multiple beers are on tap at Signal Cafe, according to a friend that attended the Groundspeak Block Party.

[+ChileHead]

Are you kiddingi camp in Walmart at least 30 days a year and have found almost everyonei meet very helpful. in facti will be in the Elko one tonight

 

Google "the people of walmart". Not a pretty sight.

[+bflentje]

Are you kiddingi camp in Walmart at least 30 days a year and have found almost everyonei meet very helpful. in facti will be in the Elko one tonight

 

Google "the people of walmart". Not a pretty sight.

 

This here is offensive. I shop at Walmart.

[4wheelin_fool]

So I have an idea for a series of caches that I'd like to place highlighting the many craft breweries in the area that I live in. My question is though, would this violate the Groundspeak guidelines (specifically section II, number 4, which prohibits commercial caches)?

 

I do not plan on endorsing the specific breweries any more than to say "There is a brewery here." The cache will be placed in such a way that it will be accessible at all times (not inside the brewery) and will not require any purchases.

 

Thanks for the advice!

 

I think it would be fine as long as you did not use any commercial or promotional language. Write the page from a historical viewpoint.

[+Oxford Stone]

Look at the Jan - Dec trads and a T shape of 4 puzzles just E of Marlow (UK) - all to do with the local brewery, but not actually mentioned! And AT the brewery there's a multi that is entirely, overtly to do with the brewery. As said near top of page, it'll all be down to your reviewer...

[+Don_J]

Are you kiddingi camp in Walmart at least 30 days a year and have found almost everyonei meet very helpful. in facti will be in the Elko one tonight

 

Google "the people of walmart". Not a pretty sight.

 

A vast majority of those photos are taken in Florida Walmarts. A smart person could probably get a government grant to study the reason why.

[+Yorkshire Yellow]

I'd avoid certain images in your cache listing page. I put together a puzzle based on a closed pub here in the UK which had various beer tap badges (the image on the beer pump in the bar), which was declined by my local reviewer as violated the commercial parts of the guidelines.

[+-CJ-]

We had an intensive discussion on this rule within our local community. From my point of view, it's OK if a CO speaks about history, architecture, famous people who were somehow connected to the place. So to emphasize the interesting place itself, not its current commercial status.

 

I bet we all have visited geocaches in parks where you have to pay some entrance fee. Those were devoted to parks and I see no problem with them. From my point of view (as a cache seeker) a geocache with an interesting description about some unique building where certain historical events took place is more attractive than a cache with a short description like "there's some building I cannot name due to gc.com rules, just come and enjoy".

 

As for our local reviewer, I own a geocache in Moscow devoted to one of our famous "Stalin skyscrapers". It was a hotel from the very beginning, now it's one of Hilton hotels. My story was about how this building was constructed, what was the difference between it and other 6 skyscrapers of the same historical period, why this one was unique, people who built it, position it takes in this city district. After the reviewer declined my publication I removed the phrase "if you enter the building you can enjoy wonderful interior" because (as I understand now) it sounded like an invitation to a commercial venture. However I kept another phrase telling people that there was a Hilton hotel in this outstanding building. It was not a promotion of any commercial interest - it was a part of the history of this place. I thought that my story would sound stupid if I start cutting pieces from it. Soviet historians have done that for decades, you know. And yes, the cache was published. Of course, the hiding place was outside the building in a public area free from guards/CCTV and accessible 24/7.