How do "vacation caches" get approved?

[ashnikes]

How do caches placed way out in the middle of nowhere get approved, like the space station cache, or that cache where you need an armed escort through the desert, and it lives inside an active volcano? are these caches not "vacation caches" in that they were placed by the cache owner who visited the place once, and will have a very hard time getting back to it to perform maintenance?

[+brslk]

My guess would be that very few people if any will find these caches so there will be no need to perform maintenance on them.

 

More likely though is it's just a novelty thing.

[ashnikes]

Ah but mother nature will destroy these caches, and they will require maintenance.

[+Pinehurst]

I guess they get arcived and forgot about.

[ashnikes]

ok but how did they get approved in the first place, except like brslk mentioned them being soooo far away and tough to get to they are more like a novelty item than a real cache.

[+mchaos]

Yeah, I figure if its something like a micro, who cares any way. If it gets destroyed by mother M, then GOOD lol, unless its a really cool one. Its so hard to tell any more. So many poor micros ruining it for good micros.

[+Pinehurst]

ok but how did they get approved in the first place, except like brslk mentioned them being soooo far away and tough to get to they are more like a novelty item than a real cache.

 

 

Geocaching is a worldwide game, they are allowed everywhere (allmost).

[+buttaskotch]

Good PR

[+TheAlabamaRambler]

Remember the Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.

 

Groundspeak can list anything they want. You can't.

[+Gitchee-Gummee]

Space Station eh? Well, it has personnel present all the time and would most likely be aware of the cache, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch to guess they can maintain it.

 

Highly unlikely that it would be muggled.

[jholly]

depending on the cachers caching habits, where the cache is in relation to the home coordinates and probably a few other factors caches in the middle of no where can and do get approved. Also bear in mind that in the middle of no where could be "near" where the cacher lives. Does Florida have any middle of nowheres? I have a hard time bring that concept into focus. I thought that was mostly located in the western states.

[+Moose Mob]

How do caches placed way out in the middle of nowhere get approved, like the space station cache, or that cache where you need an armed escort through the desert, and it lives inside an active volcano? are these caches not "vacation caches" in that they were placed by the cache owner who visited the place once, and will have a very hard time getting back to it to perform maintenance?

The reviewer looks at it, and feels it is worth the exception and that maintenance issues are going to be addressed, and hits the "publish" button.

[+roziecakes]

Also bear in mind that in the middle of no where could be "near" where the cacher lives.

 

A-yep! Our middle of nowhere is about a 10 -15 minute drive, so we've got several caches in the middle of nowhere.

 

From the guidelines:

 

"It may be difficult to fulfill your maintenance obligations if you place a cache while traveling on vacation or otherwise outside of your normal caching area. These caches may not be published unless you are able to demonstrate an acceptable maintenance plan. It is not uncommon for caches to go missing, areas to be cleared, trails to be blocked or closed, objects used for multi-cache or puzzles to be moved or removed, etc. Your maintenance plan must allow for a quick response to reported problems.

 

The territory in which a geocacher is able to maintain caches responsibly will vary from one person to the next. An active geocacher who regularly visits areas hundreds of miles apart can demonstrate their ability to maintain a cache 100 miles from home. A geocacher whose previous finds and hides are all within 25 miles of their home would likely not see their cache published if placed 250 miles away from their home."

 

That's how they get published. It depends on the cacher. For example, we have a cache in California near where my mother lives. We are down there every couple of months to visit and to work at the data center, so our cache is fine, although our home coordinates are in Oregon.

[+Scubasonic]

How do caches placed way out in the middle of nowhere get approved, like the space station cache, or that cache where you need an armed escort through the desert, and it lives inside an active volcano? are these caches not "vacation caches" in that they were placed by the cache owner who visited the place once, and will have a very hard time getting back to it to perform maintenance?

 

I thought you said you were leaving Geocaching?

 

Scubasonic

[+power69]

My guess would be that very few people if any will find these caches so there will be no need to perform maintenance on them.

 

More likely though is it's just a novelty thing.

Are you saying if I pony up $20,000,000.00 for the trip, the cache really isn't on the space station?

[+NYPaddleCacher]

ok but how did they get approved in the first place, except like brslk mentioned them being soooo far away and tough to get to they are more like a novelty item than a real cache.

 

There are quite a few caches which look like vacation caches that were placed before the guideline existed. I found one owned by a certain geocacher that has hides all over the world. Most of them were placed in 2003 and are in very interesting locations so I suspect that some amount of finder maintainable is involved to keep this caches active.

 

I've looked at the logs at the Erta Ale cache and some of them mention doing some basic maintenance. Most of the remote vacation caches that I've seen have a local caretaker, that in some cases even retrieves the cache for you to sign the log, then returns it to a safe locaton.

[Motorcycle_Mama]

ok but how did they get approved in the first place, except like brslk mentioned them being soooo far away and tough to get to they are more like a novelty item than a real cache.

Geocaching is a worldwide game, they are allowed everywhere (allmost).

Not even close to being accurate.

[+gpsfun]

Are you saying if I pony up $20,000,000.00 for the trip, the cache really isn't on the space station?

Give it a try. Worst case it will be a $20,000,000.00 DNF, but it is all about the adventure anyway.

[+DeRock & The Psychic Cacher]

Are you saying if I pony up $20,000,000.00 for the trip, the cache really isn't on the space station?

Give it a try. Worst case it will be a $20,000,000.00 DNF, but it is all about the adventure anyway.

 

I would love to read that DNF log!

 

Deane

AKA: DeRock & the Psychic Cacher - Grattan MI

[+Walts Hunting]

or that cache where you need an armed escort through the desert, and it lives inside an active volcano?

 

What are the GC numbers for them. I wouldn't mind putting them on my watch list since the CO can't find out about me and send me an annoying email.

[+WhoDis]

geo-. prefix. Definition: 1. earth, soil geomagnetic geophyte. 2. geography, global geostrategy

 

While the one on the space station is a really cool idea, could it really be considered a "Geocache"? Or is it the first "AstroCache"?

 

See who listens to the same show I stole this from.

[AZcachemeister]

geo-. prefix. Definition: 1. earth, soil geomagnetic geophyte. 2. geography, global geostrategy

 

While the one on the space station is a really cool idea, could it really be considered a "Geocache"? Or is it the first "AstroCache"?

 

See who listens to the same show I stole this from.

 

They had to start somewhere.

[+NYPaddleCacher]

or that cache where you need an armed escort through the desert, and it lives inside an active volcano?

 

What are the GC numbers for them. I wouldn't mind putting them on my watch list since the CO can't find out about me and send me an annoying email.

 

Erta Ale Volcano GCB5D7

 

It's one of only 8 caches in Ethiopia, and three of those have never been found. One of the others in the country that has not yet been found has a 4.5 terrain rating. The only cache in the country (the second most populous in Africa) is a fairly recent placement in Addis Ababa located at a Holiday Inn. When I was in Addis a couple of years ago that cache didn't exist but there was another one that I was in 1/4 mile of a few times but never had the opportunity to search for it. It ma have actually been missing at the time as it's now archived.

[+NYPaddleCacher]

geo-. prefix. Definition: 1. earth, soil geomagnetic geophyte. 2. geography, global geostrategy

 

While the one on the space station is a really cool idea, could it really be considered a "Geocache"? Or is it the first "AstroCache"?

 

See who listens to the same show I stole this from.

 

The Jetsons?

[+sbell111]

Space Station eh? Well, it has personnel present all the time and would most likely be aware of the cache, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch to guess they can maintain it.

 

Highly unlikely that it would be muggled.

Hopefully, Mother Nature is going to leave it alone, also.

[+Team Cotati]

How do caches placed way out in the middle of nowhere get approved, like the space station cache, or that cache where you need an armed escort through the desert, and it lives inside an active volcano? are these caches not "vacation caches" in that they were placed by the cache owner who visited the place once, and will have a very hard time getting back to it to perform maintenance?

 

I might have missed it, but does anyone have the GC# on that space station thing?

[+roziecakes]

How do caches placed way out in the middle of nowhere get approved, like the space station cache, or that cache where you need an armed escort through the desert, and it lives inside an active volcano? are these caches not "vacation caches" in that they were placed by the cache owner who visited the place once, and will have a very hard time getting back to it to perform maintenance?

 

I might have missed it, but does anyone have the GC# on that space station thing?

GC1BE91

[+Team Cotati]

How do caches placed way out in the middle of nowhere get approved, like the space station cache, or that cache where you need an armed escort through the desert, and it lives inside an active volcano? are these caches not "vacation caches" in that they were placed by the cache owner who visited the place once, and will have a very hard time getting back to it to perform maintenance?

 

Do you have a fairly recent example (GC#) of one of these so-called 'vacation' caches being approved?

 

Thanks.

[+Team Cotati]

How do caches placed way out in the middle of nowhere get approved, like the space station cache, or that cache where you need an armed escort through the desert, and it lives inside an active volcano? are these caches not "vacation caches" in that they were placed by the cache owner who visited the place once, and will have a very hard time getting back to it to perform maintenance?

 

I might have missed it, but does anyone have the GC# on that space station thing?

GC1BE91

 

Very interesting.

 

Thank you.

[+DragonsWest]

How do caches placed way out in the middle of nowhere get approved, like the space station cache, or that cache where you need an armed escort through the desert, and it lives inside an active volcano? are these caches not "vacation caches" in that they were placed by the cache owner who visited the place once, and will have a very hard time getting back to it to perform maintenance?

 

I might have missed it, but does anyone have the GC# on that space station thing?

GC1BE91

 

Very interesting.

 

Thank you.

 

Quite astounding and only the sort of thing Lord British could have pulled off, master of time and space that he is. I guess that establishes the record for Most Traveled Travel Bug and Most Traveled Geocache.

[+WhoDis]

Probably a lame LPC or gaurdrail.

[+WhoDis]

geo-. prefix. Definition: 1. earth, soil geomagnetic geophyte. 2. geography, global geostrategy

 

While the one on the space station is a really cool idea, could it really be considered a "Geocache"? Or is it the first "AstroCache"?

 

See who listens to the same show I stole this from.

 

The Jetsons?

Was Podcacher podcast. It's a pretty good show.