+mvigor Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 How have you padlocked an ammo can? Please show pictures of how you locked yours. I have seen these, but I'd like more ideas: Quote Link to comment
+mvigor Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 (edited) puzzle cache Yes exactly. Is your design done without drilling the can? I don't want to make it less waterproof. Edited January 28, 2008 by mvigor Quote Link to comment
Max Cacher Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 (edited) Yes it was done with out drilling I welded a hasp to the outside wrong person, oh well Edited January 28, 2008 by Max Cacher Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 (edited) Why does my post say Ringbone? Edited January 28, 2008 by sbell111 Quote Link to comment
+Maingray Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Forget the ammobox, where'd you get a carabiner so big? =] Quote Link to comment
Max Cacher Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Forget the ammobox, where'd you get a carabiner so big? =] Tractor Supply , and Home Depot both carry them Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Done drilling a hole and using an eye bolt, two hex nuts, two metal washers and two flat rubber washers. 100 percent waterproof. Quote Link to comment
+Okiebryan Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Done drilling a hole and using an eye bolt, two hex nuts, two metal washers and two flat rubber washers. 100 percent waterproof. This design would be easy to defeat, just unscrew the bolt. Then you aren't waterproof anymore. Quote Link to comment
+Cedar Grove Seekers Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 This design would be easy to defeat, just unscrew the bolt. Then you aren't waterproof anymore. You aren't locked anymore either. Quote Link to comment
+Robespierre Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 This design would be easy to defeat, just unscrew the bolt. Then you aren't waterproof anymore. You aren't locked anymore either. I was thinking about bending the eye open with large pliers. Quote Link to comment
+Okiebryan Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 This design would be easy to defeat, just unscrew the bolt. Then you aren't waterproof anymore. You aren't locked anymore either. I was thinking about bending the eye open with large pliers. You could weld the nut to the bold inside the can, that would help. If you run the outside nut all the way up to the end of the threads, then weld the inner nut to the bolt, then maybe.... Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 (edited) This design would be easy to defeat, just unscrew the bolt. Then you aren't waterproof anymore. You aren't locked anymore either. I was thinking about bending the eye open with large pliers. I'm sure someone could hacksaw through it too. Hey, it's a geocache, not a safe. How secure does it have to be? Anyway, for this cache the bolt would just spin when you turned it. I needed pliers on the inside nut to take it apart when I retired the cache. Edited January 29, 2008 by briansnat Quote Link to comment
Rostropovich Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 why? puzzle cache Thinking about doing this for a Multi. YOu go to the last cache first and get the coords for the second cache which has the keys. Upon getting the keys you go back to the final to open the lock Quote Link to comment
+Cpt.Blackbeard Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Someone once posted a link for a really nice looking ammo box lock. I saved it in case I decided to order one someday but the link no longer works. I'm not sure who posted it first though, possibly sbell. Quote Link to comment
+Cpt.Blackbeard Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 why? puzzle cache Thinking about doing this for a Multi. YOu go to the last cache first and get the coords for the second cache which has the keys. Upon getting the keys you go back to the final to open the lock Ok if they are fairly close, no way I'd cross town twice for one cache. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 ...This design would be easy to defeat, just unscrew the bolt. Then you aren't waterproof anymore. The normal result would be the bolt loosens up just enough to free spool. Locks on an ammo can pretty much keep the honest honest. Whoops. BS already said as much. Quote Link to comment
+mvigor Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 Locks on an ammo can pretty much keep the honest honest Yeah, I'm not looking for extreme security here because I'll know whether or not the person logging the find opened the lock because they will have picked up my travel bug with the key on it. A muggle could just walk away with the whole ammo can and open it at home at their leisure anyway. Excellent ideas and I'm glad I can do this with $2 worth of parts from the farm store. Quote Link to comment
+EScout Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Ammo Can Lock These work well for 50 cal size. For 30 cal, you need to get a washer the right size to keep it from slipping through the hole. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 why?puzzle cache Thinking about doing this for a Multi. YOu go to the last cache first and get the coords for the second cache which has the keys. Upon getting the keys you go back to the final to open the lock My concern is that before long, the key won't make it back to it's cache. Locks on an ammo can pretty much keep the honest honestYeah, I'm not looking for extreme security here because I'll know whether or not the person logging the find opened the lock because they will have picked up my travel bug with the key on it. A muggle could just walk away with the whole ammo can and open it at home at their leisure anyway.Lock the cache and secure it to a tree. Quote Link to comment
majormajor42 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 has anybody ever used a real safe as their cache container Quote Link to comment
+Moose Mob Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 has anybody ever used a real safe as their cache container Different topic. Quote Link to comment
+ScoutingWV Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 (edited) Someone tried to lock one here. First time I ever heard the phrase "gun muggle an ammo can", but it looks like the lock held up. Edited January 29, 2008 by ScoutingWV Quote Link to comment
+PDOP's Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I don't have a welder but I haven't seen any leakage. I suppose silicon could be used on the bolts to prevent any leaks. Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 How have you padlocked an ammo can? Please show pictures of how you locked yours. I have seen these, but I'd like more ideas: Well, my ex-girlfriend Shelley useta tell me back in 2000 and 2001 about a sado-masochism (S&M) bar called The Dungeon in downtown Baltimore -- just two blocks from H & H Surplus on Eutaw Street, which sells ammo cans of all sizes -- where there was an underground dungeon where they would put people in chains and padlocks, but I am not sure if they ever put ammo cans in chains and padlocks. In any case, I am not sure if the bar is still in business. But H & H Surplus is still located on Eutaw Street, and they still seem to have plenty of ammo cans in stock. Shelley knew about both these places because she worked as a stripper in a bar on The Block, just a few blocks to the south of that area. Quote Link to comment
+ODragon Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 The normal result would be the bolt loosens up just enough to free spool. Locks on an ammo can pretty much keep the honest honest. You'd think that right? Here's a log that was deleted from our local locked cache: Figured there would be a clue when we got there. There wasn't. Couldn't waste a quarter mile trudge through the woods, so I dismantled the locking mechanism. Sorry. Didn't realize there was a bolt on the inside too. You might want to fix it, it's an easy open right now. Great idea though, might want to make it even more monkey proof. Note that that "quarter mile trudge" was round trip time. My favorite is that his listed job, "Intelligence Analyst". Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) The normal result would be the bolt loosens up just enough to free spool. Locks on an ammo can pretty much keep the honest honest. You'd think that right? Here's a log that was deleted from our local locked cache: Figured there would be a clue when we got there. There wasn't. Couldn't waste a quarter mile trudge through the woods, so I dismantled the locking mechanism. Sorry. Didn't realize there was a bolt on the inside too. You might want to fix it, it's an easy open right now. Great idea though, might want to make it even more monkey proof. Note that that "quarter mile trudge" was round trip time. My favorite is that his listed job, "Intelligence Analyst". Thanks for sharing this hilarious tale! And, his most telling words were "...make it even more monkey proof". Amazing! Astounding! Edited January 30, 2008 by Vinny & Sue Team Quote Link to comment
+egami Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 The normal result would be the bolt loosens up just enough to free spool. Locks on an ammo can pretty much keep the honest honest. You'd think that right? Here's a log that was deleted from our local locked cache: Figured there would be a clue when we got there. There wasn't. Couldn't waste a quarter mile trudge through the woods, so I dismantled the locking mechanism. Sorry. Didn't realize there was a bolt on the inside too. You might want to fix it, it's an easy open right now. Great idea though, might want to make it even more monkey proof. Note that that "quarter mile trudge" was round trip time. My favorite is that his listed job, "Intelligence Analyst". That's great irony on the job listing. That's too bad about your cache. Common sense is such a misnomer. Quote Link to comment
+Canoe Guy Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I have used locks on a few of my ammo can caches as a puzzle. If you buy the combo locks that you can set yourself, you can define a combo and let the cacher have to figure it out. I have several that have letters on them instead of numbers and they test the cachers knowledge with basic caching acronyms as the combo, like WAAS, TNLN, or GPSr (the "r" throws a lot of people off, believe it or not!). I have to try one of these methods for securing the cans, though. Mine have been pried off several times by impatient people... Quote Link to comment
+Thrak Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 (edited) Done drilling a hole and using an eye bolt, two hex nuts, two metal washers and two flat rubber washers. 100 percent waterproof. I have one just like that except I used a 4 digit combination lock. It has survived some VERY wet weather without leaking. The secret is the two rubber washers with two large flat washers. Actually, I also used a second nut inside as a lock nut so it won't unscrew by twisting the eye bolt from the outside. I had two people find it by accident and they were intrigued by the box so they made geocaching accounts and found the 5 caches leading up to this one and went back and opened it up. Two new "accidental" geocachers. Edited February 1, 2008 by Thrak Quote Link to comment
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