How have you padlocked an ammo can?

[+mvigor]

How have you padlocked an ammo can? Please show pictures of how you locked yours.

 

I have seen these, but I'd like more ideas:

[+Robespierre]

why?

[+JoGPS]

why?

 

puzzle cache

 

[+mvigor]

puzzle cache

 

 

Yes exactly. Is your design done without drilling the can? I don't want to make it less waterproof.

Edited January 28, 2008 by mvigor

[Max Cacher]

Yes it was done with out drilling I welded a hasp to the outside

 

wrong person, oh well

Edited January 28, 2008 by Max Cacher

[+sbell111]

 

Why does my post say Ringbone?

Edited January 28, 2008 by sbell111

[+Maingray]

Forget the ammobox, where'd you get a carabiner so big? =]

[Max Cacher]

Forget the ammobox, where'd you get a carabiner so big? =]

 

Tractor Supply , and Home Depot both carry them

[+briansnat]

Done drilling a hole and using an eye bolt, two hex nuts, two metal washers and two flat rubber washers. 100 percent waterproof.

 

 

[+Okiebryan]

Done drilling a hole and using an eye bolt, two hex nuts, two metal washers and two flat rubber washers. 100 percent waterproof.

 

 

 

This design would be easy to defeat, just unscrew the bolt. Then you aren't waterproof anymore.

[+Cedar Grove Seekers]

This design would be easy to defeat, just unscrew the bolt. Then you aren't waterproof anymore.

You aren't locked anymore either.

[+Robespierre]

This design would be easy to defeat, just unscrew the bolt. Then you aren't waterproof anymore.

You aren't locked anymore either.

I was thinking about bending the eye open with large pliers.

[+Okiebryan]

This design would be easy to defeat, just unscrew the bolt. Then you aren't waterproof anymore.

You aren't locked anymore either.

I was thinking about bending the eye open with large pliers.

 

You could weld the nut to the bold inside the can, that would help. If you run the outside nut all the way up to the end of the threads, then weld the inner nut to the bolt, then maybe....

[+briansnat]

This design would be easy to defeat, just unscrew the bolt. Then you aren't waterproof anymore.

You aren't locked anymore either.

I was thinking about bending the eye open with large pliers.

 

I'm sure someone could hacksaw through it too. Hey, it's a geocache, not a safe. How secure does it have to be?

 

Anyway, for this cache the bolt would just spin when you turned it. I needed pliers on the inside nut to take it apart when I retired the cache.

Edited January 29, 2008 by briansnat

[Rostropovich]

why?

 

puzzle cache

 

 

Thinking about doing this for a Multi. YOu go to the last cache first and get the coords for the second cache which has the keys. Upon getting the keys you go back to the final to open the lock

[+Cpt.Blackbeard]

Someone once posted a link for a really nice looking ammo box lock. I saved it in case I decided to order one someday but the link no longer works. I'm not sure who posted it first though, possibly sbell.

[+Cpt.Blackbeard]

why?

 

puzzle cache

 

 

Thinking about doing this for a Multi. YOu go to the last cache first and get the coords for the second cache which has the keys. Upon getting the keys you go back to the final to open the lock

 

Ok if they are fairly close, no way I'd cross town twice for one cache.

[+Renegade Knight]

...This design would be easy to defeat, just unscrew the bolt. Then you aren't waterproof anymore.

 

The normal result would be the bolt loosens up just enough to free spool. Locks on an ammo can pretty much keep the honest honest.

 

Whoops. BS already said as much.

[+mvigor]

Locks on an ammo can pretty much keep the honest honest

 

Yeah, I'm not looking for extreme security here because I'll know whether or not the person logging the find opened the lock because they will have picked up my travel bug with the key on it. A muggle could just walk away with the whole ammo can and open it at home at their leisure anyway.

 

Excellent ideas and I'm glad I can do this with $2 worth of parts from the farm store.

[+EScout]

Ammo Can Lock

 

These work well for 50 cal size. For 30 cal, you need to get a washer the right size to keep it from slipping through the hole.

[+sbell111]

why?

puzzle cache

 

Thinking about doing this for a Multi. YOu go to the last cache first and get the coords for the second cache which has the keys. Upon getting the keys you go back to the final to open the lock

My concern is that before long, the key won't make it back to it's cache.

Locks on an ammo can pretty much keep the honest honest

Yeah, I'm not looking for extreme security here because I'll know whether or not the person logging the find opened the lock because they will have picked up my travel bug with the key on it. A muggle could just walk away with the whole ammo can and open it at home at their leisure anyway.

Lock the cache and secure it to a tree.

[majormajor42]

has anybody ever used a real safe as their cache container

[+Moose Mob]

has anybody ever used a real safe as their cache container

Different topic.

[+ScoutingWV]

Someone tried to lock one here.

 

First time I ever heard the phrase "gun muggle an ammo can", but it looks like the lock held up.

Edited January 29, 2008 by ScoutingWV

[+PDOP's]

I don't have a welder but I haven't seen any leakage. I suppose silicon could be used on the bolts to prevent any leaks.

 

[+Vinny & Sue Team]

How have you padlocked an ammo can? Please show pictures of how you locked yours.

 

I have seen these, but I'd like more ideas:

Well, my ex-girlfriend Shelley useta tell me back in 2000 and 2001 about a sado-masochism (S&M) bar called The Dungeon in downtown Baltimore -- just two blocks from H & H Surplus on Eutaw Street, which sells ammo cans of all sizes -- where there was an underground dungeon where they would put people in chains and padlocks, but I am not sure if they ever put ammo cans in chains and padlocks. In any case, I am not sure if the bar is still in business. But H & H Surplus is still located on Eutaw Street, and they still seem to have plenty of ammo cans in stock. Shelley knew about both these places because she worked as a stripper in a bar on The Block, just a few blocks to the south of that area.

[+ODragon]

The normal result would be the bolt loosens up just enough to free spool. Locks on an ammo can pretty much keep the honest honest.

 

You'd think that right?

 

Here's a log that was deleted from our local locked cache:

 

Figured there would be a clue when we got there. There wasn't. Couldn't waste a quarter mile trudge through the woods, so I dismantled the locking mechanism. Sorry. Didn't realize there was a bolt on the inside too. You might want to fix it, it's an easy open right now. Great idea though, might want to make it even more monkey proof.

 

Note that that "quarter mile trudge" was round trip time. My favorite is that his listed job, "Intelligence Analyst".

[+Vinny & Sue Team]

The normal result would be the bolt loosens up just enough to free spool. Locks on an ammo can pretty much keep the honest honest.

 

You'd think that right?

 

Here's a log that was deleted from our local locked cache:

 

Figured there would be a clue when we got there. There wasn't. Couldn't waste a quarter mile trudge through the woods, so I dismantled the locking mechanism. Sorry. Didn't realize there was a bolt on the inside too. You might want to fix it, it's an easy open right now. Great idea though, might want to make it even more monkey proof.

 

Note that that "quarter mile trudge" was round trip time. My favorite is that his listed job, "Intelligence Analyst".

Thanks for sharing this hilarious tale! And, his most telling words were "...make it even more monkey proof". Amazing! Astounding!

Edited January 30, 2008 by Vinny & Sue Team

[+egami]

The normal result would be the bolt loosens up just enough to free spool. Locks on an ammo can pretty much keep the honest honest.

 

You'd think that right?

 

Here's a log that was deleted from our local locked cache:

 

Figured there would be a clue when we got there. There wasn't. Couldn't waste a quarter mile trudge through the woods, so I dismantled the locking mechanism. Sorry. Didn't realize there was a bolt on the inside too. You might want to fix it, it's an easy open right now. Great idea though, might want to make it even more monkey proof.

 

Note that that "quarter mile trudge" was round trip time. My favorite is that his listed job, "Intelligence Analyst".

 

That's great irony on the job listing.

 

That's too bad about your cache. Common sense is such a misnomer.

[+Canoe Guy]

I have used locks on a few of my ammo can caches as a puzzle. If you buy the combo locks that you can set yourself, you can define a combo and let the cacher have to figure it out. I have several that have letters on them instead of numbers and they test the cachers knowledge with basic caching acronyms as the combo, like WAAS, TNLN, or GPSr (the "r" throws a lot of people off, believe it or not!).

 

I have to try one of these methods for securing the cans, though. Mine have been pried off several times by impatient people...

[+Thrak]

Done drilling a hole and using an eye bolt, two hex nuts, two metal washers and two flat rubber washers. 100 percent waterproof.

 

 

 

I have one just like that except I used a 4 digit combination lock. It has survived some VERY wet weather without leaking. The secret is the two rubber washers with two large flat washers. Actually, I also used a second nut inside as a lock nut so it won't unscrew by twisting the eye bolt from the outside.

 

I had two people find it by accident and they were intrigued by the box so they made geocaching accounts and found the 5 caches leading up to this one and went back and opened it up. Two new "accidental" geocachers.

Edited February 1, 2008 by Thrak