+TheWonderStuff Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Hi I was wanting to adopt a virtual cache off anyone who no longer wants to look after one of theres. So, instead of archiving it, email me, and Ill be more than happy to look after it for you. Cam Quote
+ZSandmann Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Doubt the reviewers are able to honor that request but best of luck. Quote
+Cardinal Red Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Hi I was wanting to adopt a virtual cache off anyone who no longer wants to look after one of theres. So, instead of archiving it, email me, and Ill be more than happy to look after it for you. Cam Virtual and Webcam caches are Grandfathered categories. They can not be Adopted out by their owner, and Groundspeak will not adopt them over if requested to do so. This policy has been in place for nearly two years? Obviously Groundspeak can (probably already did) make exceptions for special circumstances, but eventually virtuals will die off if unless there is another policy change. The future of virtuals is Waymarking. Quote
+StarBrand Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Aside from the obvious policy problem of adopting virtuals, how would you "maintain" a virtual any significant distance from your home location? Even a virtual needs checked on once in a while - to make sure it is still there, that the verification material is still present, etc.... Quote
+TheWonderStuff Posted December 19, 2007 Author Posted December 19, 2007 Yeah, I saw on some NZ forums a guy offering to adopt a virtual a few months back, thought it maybe possible, oh well, it was worth a try. Quote
Keystone Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 "Involuntary" adoptions of grandfathered cache types are not permitted (i.e., if the owner is no longer active). But I did not know that the voluntary adoption tool ( http://www.geocaching.com/adopt ) would not work for a virtual or webcam cache. I was sure I'd seen some Pennsylvania virtuals get adopted over to new owners. Quote
+Zork V Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Aside from the obvious policy problem of adopting virtuals, how would you "maintain" a virtual any significant distance from your home location? Even a virtual needs checked on once in a while - to make sure it is still there, that the verification material is still present, etc.... I suppose this ablility to "Maintain" would also apply to overseas people setting up an Earthcache out side of their own country???? Quote
+wesleykey Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 I suppose this ablility to "Maintain" would also apply to overseas people setting up an Earthcache out side of their own country???? I'm not sure how one "maintains" the earth.... Quote
Keystone Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Aside from the obvious policy problem of adopting virtuals, how would you "maintain" a virtual any significant distance from your home location? Even a virtual needs checked on once in a while - to make sure it is still there, that the verification material is still present, etc.... I suppose this ablility to "Maintain" would also apply to overseas people setting up an Earthcache out side of their own country???? Earthcaches are governed by the Earthcache listing guidelines posted on the Earthcache.org website. Grandfathered virtual caches are governed by the Cache Listing Requirements / Guidelines posted on the Geocaching.com website and, in particular, the Guidelines for Grandfathered Cache Types. Two different sets of rules, two different answers. Quote
+Team Cotati Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Hi I was wanting to adopt a virtual cache off anyone who no longer wants to look after one of theres. So, instead of archiving it, email me, and Ill be more than happy to look after it for you. Cam theirs Quote
+TheWonderStuff Posted December 20, 2007 Author Posted December 20, 2007 Hi I was wanting to adopt a virtual cache off anyone who no longer wants to look after one of theres. So, instead of archiving it, email me, and Ill be more than happy to look after it for you. Cam theirs great to see the spelling and gramma police in fool force Quote
+TheWonderStuff Posted December 20, 2007 Author Posted December 20, 2007 (edited) Edited December 20, 2007 by TheWonderStuff Quote
+Isonzo Karst Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 I've seen a webcam adoption fairly recently. Explained the process to the old owner. I *think* the adoption form will currently work for a cache owner to hand over webcam or virtual . Quote
+TheWonderStuff Posted December 20, 2007 Author Posted December 20, 2007 I've seen a webcam adoption fairly recently. Explained the process to the old owner. I *think* the adoption form will currently work for a cache owner to hand over webcam or virtual . Sweet, now all I need is a Virtual or a webcam to test it on Quote
+robert Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 (edited) theirs Please either add something to the discussion or don't. Even with the smilies, it's still lame when your only input is correcting someone's spelling or grammar. Thanks for understanding. Add me to the list of people who would rather see a virtual maintained by a local. That way if a sign gets damaged, etc., it can be checked and verified by the owner rather than merely archived because it can't be looked after. Good virts are hard to come by, I'd hate to see one disappear because someone wasn't able to maintain it. Edited December 20, 2007 by robert Quote
+tabulator32 Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 theirs You seem to be on a spelling and grammar correction streak lately. Please either add something to the discussion or don't. Even with the smilies, it's still lame. Thanks for understanding. Add me to the list of people who would rather see a virtual maintained by a local. That way if a sign gets damaged, etc., it can be checked and verified by the owner rather than merely archived because it can't be looked after. Yes, pleas...wii wood prafur everywon right tha weigh thay want. it jus maxe mor cents. Quote
+robert Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Yes, pleas...wii wood prafur everywon right tha weigh thay want. it jus maxe mor cents. You found a Wii?!?!? Quote
+Team Cotati Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 theirs Please either add something to the discussion or don't. Even with the smilies, it's still lame when your only input is correcting someone's spelling or grammar. Thanks for understanding. Add me to the list of people who would rather see a virtual maintained by a local. That way if a sign gets damaged, etc., it can be checked and verified by the owner rather than merely archived because it can't be looked after. Good virts are hard to come by, I'd hate to see one disappear because someone wasn't able to maintain it. Request denied. Quote
+tabulator32 Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Yes, pleas...wii wood prafur everywon right tha weigh thay want. it jus maxe mor cents. You found a Wii?!?!? Ah-ha! You prove the point. Quote
+ZSandmann Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 I apologize to the OP for sounding presumptuous, but I feel you are just fishing for icons. The number one reason I feel this is that you have no particular cache in mind you are wanting to maintain, you are asking for any virtual or webcam cache. In my rather experiences, there is nothing extra-special about virtuals or webcams, I have found some very nice ones to be sure, but they are just another form of cache. I owned a webcam cache that I had to archive when the cam went offline and was not repaired, I never owned a virtual. Instead I prefer to hide containers for others to find. Just my .02 - your mileage may vary. Quote
+Photographer Jim Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 I'm just curious. I have been caching less than a year, so I don't know the history of how the policy developed, but I am curious as to why virtual caches cannot be adopted so as to keep them active. I can understand why establishing new virtual caches might have a restriction or cap so as to prevent a complete flood of them, but I'm not sure I understand why existing ones should be left to die off. Personally, I really enjoy virtual caches, especially when I am on a trip out of my area. These caches often get me to stop and notice the unusual sites and interesting history of an area. And, they provide an interesting alternative to just seeking ordinary nanos or camo cans. From posts I've read, the "demotion" of virtual caches took place about two years ago - could some of those who have been caching for awhile help satisfy my curiosity and give me the scoop on the current virtual cache policy? Thanks Quote
+mtn-man Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Request denied. As a moderator, I would be more than happy to give you a more convincing argument. Please stay on topic and read the forum guidelines regarding respect and staying on topic. Quote
+Isonzo Karst Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 but I am curious as to why virtual caches cannot be adopted so as to keep them active. Virtual caches CAN be adopted in a voluntary adoption, where the current cache owner transfers the cache to a new owner using the adoption ulitity. www.geocaching.com/adopt There's no involuntary transfer of virtuals. There isn't a whole lot of involuntary transfer of any caches. Here's Keystone's FAQ on adoption Cache adoption FAQ Quote
+Ambrosia Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 I'm just curious. I have been caching less than a year, so I don't know the history of how the policy developed, but I am curious as to why virtual caches cannot be adopted so as to keep them active. I can understand why establishing new virtual caches might have a restriction or cap so as to prevent a complete flood of them, but I'm not sure I understand why existing ones should be left to die off. Personally, I really enjoy virtual caches, especially when I am on a trip out of my area. These caches often get me to stop and notice the unusual sites and interesting history of an area. And, they provide an interesting alternative to just seeking ordinary nanos or camo cans. From posts I've read, the "demotion" of virtual caches took place about two years ago - could some of those who have been caching for awhile help satisfy my curiosity and give me the scoop on the current virtual cache policy? Thanks Welcome to Waymarking. Quote
+baloo&bd Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 Welcome to Waymarking. Which, unfortunately, has nothing to do with Virtual caches. Quote
+Ambrosia Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 (edited) Welcome to Waymarking. Which, unfortunately, has nothing to do with Virtual caches. I was just going by the comment that they made: These <caches> often get me to stop and notice the unusual sites and interesting history of an area. And, they provide an interesting alternative to just seeking ordinary nanos or camo cans. This is exactly what I feel that Waymarking does. Some people don't agree, but others do. I was just offering an alternative. Edited December 21, 2007 by Ambrosia Quote
Keystone Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 Virtual and Webcam caches are Grandfathered categories. They can not be Adopted out by their owner, and Groundspeak will not adopt them over if requested to do so. This policy has been in place for nearly two years? Obviously Groundspeak can (probably already did) make exceptions for special circumstances, but eventually virtuals will die off if unless there is another policy change. The future of virtuals is Waymarking. This statement sounded very confident, as if the writer had tried to do a voluntary adoption of a virtual cache, but the system refused to process the transfer. So, I checked around a bit, and found some examples like this cache, adopted by a geocacher who didn't even start caching until after the freeze on new virtuals. On the basis of my research, I believe that it remains possible to adopt a virtual cache using the do-it-yourself tool. If anyone has contrary information, please post! Quote
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