cache magnet Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 The bottom of my garmin gps v box says "WARNING! This product contains lead, a chemical known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects and other reproductive harm." My first question is why does this product contain lead? Second why is it that the people in California are the only ones to know of the life threatining qualities of this product? And last but not least I'm curious if any of you have experienced any of these dangers? I don't mean to poke fun but evidently Garmin had a valid reason for including this warning. OK, I started it, I know you guys will finish it. Have fun. Quote Link to comment
mnelson78 Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Only dangerous if you decide to eat your GPS, or if you take your GPS apart, find the part that contains lead and somehow manage to eat that part or get it into your blood supply. Quote Link to comment
+CYBret Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Read it again: It only causes cancer IN California. Eat it anywhere else and you'll be fine. Mmmmmmm . . . Leadelicious "The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again." Mt. 13:44 Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 California is a special case. "The Nation State" is more restrictive than any other state when it comes to all kinds of things including retireing in another state "you earned the money here, so even if you move to Florida, we will tax it HERE". Alas the days the the Bear Flag Republic seem to be over. Here in Idaho I guess they know I won't eat my GPS and don't require the warning that California does. Lead is probably used in the soldier that is used on the circuit boards etc. Inside the device. But I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment
Leemann Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Yes it does the electronics are soldered to the pc board using solder witch includes Lead/tin Lee Quote Link to comment
+Seay me Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Yep, the solder has lead in it and I'd venture to say that the LCD isn't too healthy either. Chip Quote Link to comment
+culpc Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 I gotta' remember to quit chewing on the GPSr when I cross the CA line! Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son! Quote Link to comment
cache magnet Posted July 18, 2002 Author Share Posted July 18, 2002 I just heard form Garmin that new legislation has been handed down from the CA state court system requiring Garmin to include a warning on any of the gpsr's that have antennas due to the chance of falling on an extended antenna and impaling and oriface. Magellan has responded to this legislation by saying "our's is too short and stubby to pose a hazard to any oriface." Quote Link to comment
cache magnet Posted July 18, 2002 Author Share Posted July 18, 2002 I just heard form Garmin that new legislation has been handed down from the CA state court system requiring Garmin to include a warning on any of the gpsr's that have antennas due to the chance of falling on an extended antenna and impaling an oriface. Magellan has responded to this legislation by saying "our's is too short and stubby to pose a hazard to any oriface." Quote Link to comment
cache magnet Posted July 18, 2002 Author Share Posted July 18, 2002 That's what happens when your finger accidently double clicks on the "post now" button Quote Link to comment
+Doombot! Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 I'll include this on Doombots'! "Geocachers gone wild!" video. >>>>Camera zooms in "Oohh, I fell on my antenna...right into an orifice.... oh no, I lost my footing and fell again......>>>>> But I digress. Doombot! Quote Link to comment
+infosponge Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 It's not the size that matters, it's the quadruplin' of the helix... Quote Link to comment
+Lazyboy & Mitey Mite Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 quote:why is it that the people in California are the only ones to know of the life threatining qualities of this product I lived in California for many years. Everything is considered dangerous in California. Look at the zillions of warning labels on a simple step ladder. You can't even tell what color the ladder is. How about a paint bucket. In CA they even have a picture of an infant drowning in a paint bucket. Give me a break. I'd be more concerned about breathing the air in CA than in having your gps kill you. Never Squat With Yer Spurs On Quote Link to comment
MTBguy Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Doombot:I'll include this on Doombots'! "Geocachers gone wild!" video. >>>>Camera zooms in "Oohh, I fell on my antenna...right into an orifice.... oh no, I lost my footing and fell again......>>>>> But I digress. Doombot! Cachers gone wild video!? Really? Tell me more! Seriosly, are you making a video? The Mountain Bike Guy. Long Live Long Rides! [This message was edited by MTBguy on July 19, 2002 at 11:04 AM.] Quote Link to comment
+Doombot! Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Would you like to see a bunch of middle aged people (mostly men, likely overweight) bearing their hairy (salt and pepper colored) chests and holding a GPS (that they have created a pet name for...something along the lines of "Dorothy"), doing sudo-sexual things with them???? I think not. Still want the video? Oh yeah, they have to stick their tongue out a lot, too. (BTW, I thought that you were 17...you couldn't "star" in it for another year.) Quote Link to comment
+georgeandmary Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Cache Magnet:The bottom of my garmin gps v box says "WARNING! This product contains lead, a chemical known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects and other reproductive harm." My first question is why does this product contain lead? Second why is it that the people in California are the only ones to know of the life threatining qualities of this product? See what happens when too many liberals get power. It's not so much big brother it's big mother. As Californians we're obviously not smart enough to take care of ourselves so we must be lead by the hand. IQ levels are quite low. What do you expect when you have 45% of registered voters being democrats. If it wasn't such a pretty place I would have left long ago. george Remember: Half the people you meet are below average. Quote Link to comment
+mrp Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Cache Magnet:I just heard form Garmin that new legislation has been handed down from the CA state court system requiring Garmin to include a warning on any of the gpsr's that have antennas due to the chance of falling on an extended antenna and impaling and oriface That's why I only use etrex GPSr's... no sharp corners on which to hurt yourself. -- Mitch Quote Link to comment
+Kodak's4 Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Cache Magnet:That's what happens when your finger accidently double clicks on the "post now" button That's right. If you double click on the 'post now' button, it changes the spelling of 'orifice' to 'oriface' Quote Link to comment
+scoobydum Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 quote:Are we all going to die?!?!? Yes. Even if you quit eating the circuit board in your GPSr, there will come a day that you ignore that one sign in California... you know, the one that says "Warning: The California State Board of Health and Sanity has determined that breathing, walking, speaking, and drinking water can cause adverse effects on personal lifespans..." If any number of warnings, signs, or disclaimers could keep one from kicking the ol' bucket, California would have a population of immortals. quote:...why is it that the people in California are the only ones to know of the life threatining qualities of this product? I hate to say it, but it seems that they are the only ones that don't know. Apparently, that's why the warning exists in the first place. The purpose of signs, IMHO, is to make people aware of dangers or conditions of which they are not otherwise aware. I was driving to Monterey one day, stopped at a gas station, and saw a sign on a gas pump that said something to the effect of "Warning! Drinking gasoline can cause sickness, or even death!" Now, signs aren't put up for no reason, and if I were a betting man I'd say that more than one Darwin Award candidate out there has tried to refresh themselves with a cool, tingly taste of petrol from the nozzle, based upon my interpretation of the true text of that sign. Warning: Laying in the middle of a busy freeway or hurling one's self from a tall building can cause slight discomfort, an increase in insurance premiums, or excitement in lawyers. ------------------------------------ Is it worth your dime to take away my two cents? Quote Link to comment
FullOn Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 quote: What do you expect when you have 45% of registered voters being democrats Hey! I resemble that remark! I also use and love my Macintosh. Us democrats might be a bit over protective, but at least we don't trust corporations to run everything! BTW. Did you know the tangerine colored iMac actually tastes like tangerine. The beige PCs taste like beige too, though. "I thought you said this was a quick find!" - My wife Quote Link to comment
MTBguy Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Doombot:Would you like to see a bunch of middle aged people (mostly men, likely overweight) bearing their hairy (salt and pepper colored) chests and holding a GPS (that they have created a pet name for...something along the lines of "Dorothy"), doing sudo-sexual things with them???? I think not. Still want the video? Oh yeah, they have to stick their tongue out a lot, too. I was thinking more like a video about stupid geocachers, doing stuped things, while geocaching (like chewing on there GPS, or walking off a cliff while reading there GPS, or hiding a cache in a bears den.) That type of video might be intresting. So, are you making a video? The Mountain Bike Guy. Long Live Long Rides! Quote Link to comment
+culpc Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 I thought that the beige MAC was a little more putty flavored, but as one of those big-government liberals I could be mistaken Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son! Quote Link to comment
FullOn Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Actually PC's taste just the same as Macs. But PCs are twice as hard to lick and you have to give Bill Gates first lick. No one likes sloppy seconds! "I thought you said this was a quick find!" - My wife Quote Link to comment
teamwsmf Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 quote:Originally posted by FullOn:Actually PC's taste just the same as Macs. Macs are easy to lick, but it will cost you twice as much likcing a PC and you will be told when how and why to lick. First last and all licks in between are to Steve Jobs. PC's are a little harder to lick but you get the option to build it yourself, put on whatever OS you want, and the only person you really HAVE to lick is yourself. ---------------------------- TeamWSMF@wsmf.org Quote Link to comment
FullOn Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 OK. Before we start another Mac v. PC war, lets go back to licking our GPSs. BTW, Garmins taste better than Magellans. "I thought you said this was a quick find!" - My wife Quote Link to comment
+scoobydum Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Hmmm... I'd say that the only reason my new Garmin tastes better than my old Magellan is that I haven't had a chance to drop it in a big, hot, steamy, pile of... oatmeal! Yeah, that's it... oatmeeeeeeeal. m:) ------------------------ STURGEON GENERAL WARNING: Fishing can decrease the risk of long-term employment, a meaningful relationship, and any chance of financial independence... Oh well. Quote Link to comment
+GOT GPS? Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 I was hoping that they would come out with a chocolate GPS, and it would be lead-free and low caleries. Being silly here. My home page about GPS units and information Quote Link to comment
+st_richardson Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 One of the funniest comedians I ever saw recommended eliminating warning labels and weed out the gene pool. “Honey hand me the hair drier I’m almost finished in the shower.” I love reading absurd warnings. Whenever I see a stupid warning it means… Someone has tried it; thought of doing it, or some lawyer believes someone will try it. Quote Link to comment
+headmj Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 But it won't be from the lead in your GPS. The nut cases in the peoples republic of Kalifornia actually believe that they are going to live forever and that it will be "somebody elses fault" when they die. It is the worst place in the world for the blame game. Quote Link to comment
+culpc Posted July 20, 2002 Share Posted July 20, 2002 Actually, it only seems like living forever because it is so safe! Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son! Quote Link to comment
GlfWrVt Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 I actually saw a bottle of something with a lable on it that had this warning.. "If lable is missing, do not use product" (this was printed on the lable, in case I wasn't clear) aww well. GOD bless America. (and Kaliforniastan too) Quote Link to comment
+GypsyMoth Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 I'm still waiting for someone to explain how they got that little soldier in there. Quote Link to comment
+ionekoa Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 quote:Originally posted by FullOn:Us democrats might be a bit over protective, but at least we don't trust corporations to run everything! why should it be either?? we could try....[[[warning not for liberals or, those who "trust corperations to run everything]]] take resposnibility for ourselves. some of us dont trust the government to run everything... like our lives... Quote Link to comment
+ionekoa Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 leave it to the biggest corperation (the government) to say you cant talk about God because of the 1st amendment. (freedom of speech and religion) but maybe they are the test study for the harmful effects of lead consumption. Quote Link to comment
FullOn Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 Uhhhh… The whole point of this topic was to have fun, but it seems some just want to take the lighthearted jabbing a bit too far. There's a few like this in every crowd. Too bad. Life's too short to get this worked up over silly things. Go outside and enjoy the sport. I will. Quote Link to comment
+phantom4099 Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 The 1 st admendment also says the goverment will have nothing to do with religion. (did I have a point to this post?) Wyatt W. The probability of someone watching you is directly proportional to the stupidity of your actions. Quote Link to comment
+Snowtrail Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 Well, getting back to the original post... Since it does have lead in it, don't throw it in your regular garbage. The lead can leak through the landfills into your drinking water, and you will be indeed, consuming your GPS. . . Our area has several drop off points that in the {gasp} unimaginable possibility that you must dispose of your GPS, you can recycle it and get a tax deduction. Quote Link to comment
BassoonPilot Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 A bit off the beaten-topic, but: Isn't amazing that past generations survived until adulthood at all? My dad tells me how they used to melt lead in pots on their stoves and then pour it into molds to make soldiers and other "action figures" of the day, when he was a kid. They also used to pour mercury into their hands and roll it up and down their arms. And he was, literally, a "rocket scientist" until his retirement. I wonder how much brighter he might have been ... More relevant to my generation is what they are doing to all the playgrounds ... all the equipment we enjoyed playing on has been branded "unsafe," and has been replaced with immovable plastic monstrosities. The cynical part of me says safety has very little to do with these changes; limiting liability claims is the motiviating factor. Quote Link to comment
NetDep Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 "It's not that life is so short, it's that you are dead for so long." Forgot what movie/tv show/clever person said that - but I have always liked it. Quote Link to comment
+rldill Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 Oh well just another example of every thing we eat, drink, smoke or do causes cancer, or kills us . Take a chance or you'll never know. Let your spirits soar! Quote Link to comment
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