CTRL + mouse scroll to zoom map

[+IamCoust]

YOU'RE JOKING.  STOP WASTING MY TIME!!

[+technician1960]

This is a terrible change, is this supposed to be an improvement?

[+Athryn and Peri]

Agreed, this is one of the least pleasant changes to the UI. What gives?

[+Curufinwe]

I have to add my thumbs down to this change as well. It's absolutely terrible!

[+*Triforce*]

I agree. Not a good change. 

[+ChileHead]

Seems to be a firefox issue.  Still works the other way in Chrome.  Firefox recently updated to version 57 (2 days ago for me), so perhaps people are seeing some incompatibility with that?

[+ChileHead]

Also, seems to be an issue particular to google maps on firefox.  If you switch to leaflet maps on firefox, it still works the old way.

[+Athryn and Peri]

16 minutes ago, ChileHead said:

Seems to be a firefox issue.  Still works the other way in Chrome.  Firefox recently updated to version 57 (2 days ago for me), so perhaps people are seeing some incompatibility with that?

This happens for me on Chrome, not Firefox.

[+IamCoust]

It started this morning, using IE.  It was doing it yesterday.

[+SkipperL]

If you go to full screen view you can use your mouse normally again.  Still an unwanted step.  Leaflet maps seem unaffected.  

[+Brotherseldom]

This change is obnoxious  Change it back. 

[+Gillala]

I have only one hand, how can I scroll now using only my mouse ?

[+Tungstène]

10 minutes ago, Gillala said:

I have only one hand, how can I scroll now using only my mouse ?

By not using Google maps. Or by using remanent keys. 

By the way, I saw the same behaviour on other websites which embed Google maps. Therefore, I'm pretty sure that geocaching.com is not responsible for this new "feature". 

[+arisoft]

17 minutes ago, Gillala said:

I have only one hand, how can I scroll now using only my mouse ?

[+Tungstène]

Sorry.  arisoft and I answered the question "how can I zoom now?" while you were asking how you could scroll. 

Good news : this new feature simplifies scrolling as the mouse wheel now always and only scrolls (since zooming is now activated by a simultaneous keypress). (I do believe this is the reason why Google changed it.)

Edited November 21, 2017 by Tungstène
Added my beliefs.

[+Verderbär]

How can this be a google maps problem?

Scrolling the normal way (with using only the mouse and using only one hand!) still works there.

Btw: Using the plus/minus buttons to navigate over the gc-map is a bad joke.

[+flowten]

I have to agree. I very much dislike this change. Please revert it back. 

[+Tungstène]

4 hours ago, Verderbär said:

How can this be a google maps problem?

Because only embedded Google maps are "protected". 

This seems to be the intended behaviour in the latest experimental version of the Google Maps API. The person embedding the map can override this behaviour by setting the gestureHandling property. Have a look at https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/javascript/interaction

If you don't believe me, maybe you'll trust Google? 

[+speakers-corner]

8 hours ago, SkipperL said:

If you go to full screen view you can use your mouse normally again.  Still an unwanted step.  Leaflet maps seem unaffected.  

no it doesnt. Im using IE11 and I hate the zoom Option at the Moment. BRING BACK THE OLD SYSTEM, PLEASE!!!!!!!

[+flowten]

Based on what I read here, it looks like the website owner can determine the method used to view maps on their site since Google offers several variations. 

https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/javascript/interaction

UPDATE: Sorry, see you found the same thing. 

Edited November 21, 2017 by flowten

[+flowten]

8 hours ago, SkipperL said:

If you go to full screen view you can use your mouse normally again.  Still an unwanted step.  Leaflet maps seem unaffected.  

Good catch, if your using Google Chrome the Full Screen method does work. Thanks

[+suntse]

Now I need to use two hands. Not good.    A good rule is "Don't fix what isn't broken. Back to the old way!

[+thebruce0]

If this isn't a change Groundspeak made, and it is something Google implemented, then it's not GS's fault it happened.

But if they can disable it, hopefully they will do that ASAP.

[+Twinklekitkat]

I switched maps to "Leaflet' and can scroll again.  Guess I'll have to get used to that map.  I prefer the google map but don't want to use it in full screen.

One handed mouse control on Google maps is to hold the left click down and use scroll wheel at the same time.  That is a pain so I'll be using the "Leaflet" map for convenience. 

[+flowten]

58 minutes ago, thebruce0 said:

If this isn't a change Groundspeak made, and it is something Google implemented, then it's not GS's fault it happened.

But if they can disable it, hopefully they will do that ASAP.

But Google implemented this change in August so why is it happening here and now? 

[Blue Square Thing]

8 hours ago, Gillala said:

I have only one hand, how can I scroll now using only my mouse ?

A magic trackpad let's me simply use a two finger scroll up or down. I'm fairly certain that there will be an accessibility feature on your system which allows you to create a sticky key effect on your mouse as well.

I should imagine that any system that didn't have accessibility features to assist navigation, tying etc... shouldn't be one you should be using - for example, getting capitalisation and punctuation without it should be much harder than it need be.

[+thebruce0]

You can alternatively use the Geocaching Maps Enhancement web script on supported browsers. That provides a number of other map sources, including google maps.  Comparing the default GC map to the map with GME enabled, GME on google maps didn't have the ctrl+scroll flag, it just worked as normal. Again, likely it's a setting in the GC include code for google maps that doesn't turn off the ctrl+scroll option.

Edited November 21, 2017 by thebruce0

[+The Snowdog]

This is indeed a change in the Google Maps API. It seemed to hit pretty much all of my web aps that use Google Maps last week. The default for gestureHandling is now "cooperative" which requires two fingers (on a touch screen) or ctrl-scroll with a mouse to zoom. Yes I agree that it is a pain in the tail - before you could scroll, pan, and zoom with one hand but now it takes two. If Groundspeak wishes to revert back to the old way all they need to do is add a little code - set gestureHandling to "greedy" rather than "cooperative."  There is also an "automatic" setting that goes both ways, depending on the screen (it's the "old" way if the map isn't scrollable, the "new" way otherwise, or something like that).  In the meantime I am praying for a browser plugin that will "fix" this for all sites.

Edited November 21, 2017 by The Snowdog

[Frau Potter]

Thank you for notifying Geocaching HQ about the changes made to Google maps scroll options. We were unaware that these changes were happening. I've notified the engineering teams.

[+plaidtopia]

Thank you, everyone, for bringing this to our attention! And extra thanks to those of you helping to point us in the right direction!

We've updated our implementation to adhere to the changes to the Google Maps API. Please let us know if there are further issues!

Edited November 21, 2017 by plaidtopia

[+The Snowdog]

You guys are awesome, thanks!

[+flowten]

Thanks for fixing this!