+colleda Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Just for fun I am planning a cache with the above (topic) title. LPCs are rare in OZ. You see, our LPs don't have skirts. But, I'm not going to let that stop me. I've found one that has space under its base. I'm looking to the forum for ways of describing this cache for potential finders. It will be a LPC 1/1.5 Container is an Altoids tin. We don't have these in Oz but I managed to buy one on a recent Princess cruise. It will be in a shopping centre public car park. I'd like Oz cachers to experience the fun of these types of hides that y'all enjoy so much (remove tongue from cheek). Quote Link to comment
+Touchstone Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 For the Hint, I typically see, "In the obvious spot". Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Thanks. More please. Quote Link to comment
+wmpastor Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) You didn't ask, but Altoids tins aren't very waterproof.... Edited December 30, 2014 by wmpastor Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 You didn't ask, but Altoids tins aren't very waterproof.... Yep, knew that. The tin won't be completely exposed to weather. I have painted the bottom half of the tin black and clear coated the lid so that finders can see that is an Altoids, and this will also slow the rusting process. Log will be in plastic bag and in it's in a spot where we visit regularly so I can keep an eye on its condition. We'll be in the US in March so I'll be able to grab some spares if needed. Quote Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Skirt lifter. Quote Link to comment
+Zepp914 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'd call it "Yankee Skirt Lifter". Australians may think the cache is risque, but Americans will know that it is anything but. Quote Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'd call it "Yankee Skirt Lifter". Australians may think the cache is risque, but Americans will know that it is anything but. Only Yankees lift skirts? Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'd call it "Yankee Skirt Lifter". Australians may think the cache is risque, but Americans will know that it is anything but. Only Yankees lift skirts? To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner. To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner. To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander. To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast. (attributed to E. B. White) Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'd call it "Yankee Skirt Lifter". Australians may think the cache is risque, but Americans will know that it is anything but. Only Yankees lift skirts? To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner. To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner. To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander. To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast. (attributed to E. B. White) :lol: :lol: In Oz Yankee = Seppo. No skirts to lift here. Why do your LPs have skirts? Are you guys a bit bashfull about having your nuts and bolts on display? Why not LP trousers? Quote Link to comment
+captnemo Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 How about; "Crappy container in the usual crappy spot" Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted January 3, 2015 Author Share Posted January 3, 2015 How about; "Crappy container in the usual crappy spot" Yep. Like that one. Would blend in too with all the fast food refuse all about the place. Really, I think I should CITO before publishing Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Needing more input. How would you go about describing an LPC so that it sounds like the greatest cache type ever devised (I think there's a line there)? Where ar all the humorists? There's a couple of hint suggestions, I may use all of them. A list of hints maybe, after all its a D1. Quote Link to comment
+The A-Team Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 How would you go about describing an LPC so that it sounds like the greatest cache type ever devised (I think there's a line there)? That's quite the challenge you're presenting us with! You're asking us to improve something inherently bad. I guess there's only one way to do it: Lie. Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Our old cache area, many were pmo. Nothing shows you're, "experiencing geocaching at its fullest and finest, opening a whole new world of exclusive caches", like making that lpc pmo... Quote Link to comment
+CanadianRockies Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) There's a couple of hint suggestions, I may use all of them. A list of hints maybe, after all its a D1. I was thinking the same thing, since you plan on rating it a D1. In North America, a D1 rating probably makes sense, but if most of your seekers have never encountered an LPC before, it might not be such an easy find. I logged a few DNFs on LPCs before I figured out where to look. Edit to add: Oops. I thought you had found a lamppost with a skirt. Never mind. Edited January 8, 2015 by CanadianRockies Quote Link to comment
+Chrysalides Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Why not go that extra mile and build a skirt for it, so that Australian geocachers get the full American geocaching experience? Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Why not go that extra mile and build a skirt for it, so that Australian geocachers get the full American geocaching experience? I have been thinking along those lines. I'm not the best at metal working but have had some experience. I'm more the type, measure twice cut three times, so it would be a challenge. Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 How would you go about describing an LPC so that it sounds like the greatest cache type ever devised (I think there's a line there)? That's quite the challenge you're presenting us with! You're asking us to improve something inherently bad. I guess there's only one way to do it: Lie. The Edsel of geocaches?? Quote Link to comment
+humboldt flier Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Why not go that extra mile and build a skirt for it, so that Australian geocachers get the full American geocaching experience? Did an LPC in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, U.S.A. Skirts were made of wood. I suppose in keeping with the rustic motif and an automobile corral for 20 & 21st century steeds. Go figure. Quote Link to comment
+humboldt flier Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Why not go that extra mile and build a skirt for it, so that Australian geocachers get the full American geocaching experience? I have been thinking along those lines. I'm not the best at metal working but have had some experience. I'm more the type, measure twice cut three times, so it would be a challenge. DANG BOARD ... measured it three times, cut it four times and it is STILL TOO SHORT Quote Link to comment
+GrateBear Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I'd call it "Yankee Skirt Lifter". Australians may think the cache is risque, but Americans will know that it is anything but. Only Yankees lift skirts? To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner. To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner. To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander. To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast. (attributed to E. B. White) And to a Bostonian, a Yankee is a person who, well, to maintain a level of decency, wears a pin-striped uniform Quote Link to comment
+TX Stephens Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I'd call it "Yankee Skirt Lifter". Australians may think the cache is risque, but Americans will know that it is anything but. Only Yankees lift skirts? To foreigners, a Yankee is an American. To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner. To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner. To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander. To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast. (attributed to E. B. White) And to a Bostonian, a Yankee is a person who, well, to maintain a level of decency, wears a pin-striped uniform Bahahhaha, that was a pretty great addition to something I thought couldn't get any funnier! Gold star for you. Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Why not go that extra mile and build a skirt for it, so that Australian geocachers get the full American geocaching experience? I have been thinking along those lines. I'm not the best at metal working but have had some experience. I'm more the type, measure twice cut three times, so it would be a challenge. I found a cache in Seattle where someone had constructed a lamp post skirt out of wood. It was a bit larger than a real lamppost skirt and obviously not part of the original construction so it was the first place I looked at GZ. It just wasn't the same without that lovely metal-on-metal screech sound we all enjoy when lifting a real skirt. Edited January 8, 2015 by NYPaddleCacher Quote Link to comment
+CdAGeoGeeks Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I lifted a skirt once and the screech was followed by a slap. Always ask first. Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 I lifted a skirt once and the screech was followed by a slap. Always ask first. :laughing: :laughing: Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Cache is almost ready to go. Will post GC code when it goes live. Can someone suggest a suitable wallpaper? Quote Link to comment
knowschad Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I beg you, I plead with you... don't do it!! Caches like that breed more caches like that. Think of the example you're setting. Hide better caches, not worse caches! Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 You didn't ask, but Altoids tins aren't very waterproof.... Yep, knew that. The tin won't be completely exposed to weather. I have painted the bottom half of the tin black and clear coated the lid so that finders can see that is an Altoids, and this will also slow the rusting process. Log will be in plastic bag and in it's in a spot where we visit regularly so I can keep an eye on its condition. We'll be in the US in March so I'll be able to grab some spares if needed. One of the best like this that I've seen, was a bison tube in piece of beehive then slide under the pole. A large group spent over ten minutes looking before I finally braved the beehive to see if it was behind it. Quote Link to comment
+MMaru Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Make sure your lamp post has a terrible paint job. Before I got a grown-up GPSr, I was using an auto one which got me in the general area, and with LPCs, once I figured out how they worked (accidentally when I bumped a base once!) I would just look around to see which lamp post had scrapes and scratches from the skirt being lifted. Not sure how this would work, but you might be able to add a "skirt" that looks like some commonly found (here in America, at least) trash... a plastic bag fixed to it or some such. Are cachers in your area commonly familiar with LPCs? You could even use the acronym in your description - Lovely Perfect Cache just waiting to be found! Quote Link to comment
+tallglenn Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z177/MidgetMom/IMG_0012_zpszejgwlfd.jpg Two lock n' lock containers inside. Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 I beg you, I plead with you... don't do it!! Caches like that breed more caches like that. Think of the example you're setting. Hide better caches, not worse caches! I understand your sentiment but lame caches are fairly rare around here. We do not have saturation problems either. There are a few guard rail caches but these are relatively rare. I'm hoping that the way we have done this one will highlight how not to hide a cache and hoping that finders will be intelligent enough to recognise it for what it is - a little bit of fun, although perhaps at the expense of our US cousins. :D Quote Link to comment
+NeverSummer Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I beg you, I plead with you... don't do it!! Caches like that breed more caches like that. Think of the example you're setting. Hide better caches, not worse caches! I understand your sentiment but lame caches are fairly rare around here. We do not have saturation problems either. There are a few guard rail caches but these are relatively rare. I'm hoping that the way we have done this one will highlight how not to hide a cache and hoping that finders will be intelligent enough to recognise it for what it is - a little bit of fun, although perhaps at the expense of our US cousins. :D You say that now... When LPCs were first coming around out here, I bet many would have awarded them a Favorite Point...just because they were new, "unique", and caused most to scratch their head while they rested their hand on the hide location. Next thing you know, everyone thought it was a good idea, and an easy and fun way to hide a cache. Then along came more and more of them in every single parking lot, along greenways...and on and on. Most still think, after finding their first, "Wow, that's a simple, plain-sight location I hadn't thought of before! I should hide a few of these so I can help others have the same feeling as I when I first lifted that lamp's skirt!" We love to share ideas that appear, at first, to be a good idea. Next thing you know you've given your community a smallpox blanket, and the unmaintained urban drivel that is a LPC become a large percentage of any cache hidden in an urban setting. Bo-ring...and quite honestly not usually placed with proper permission from anyone. I suppose if you frame it as a joke at the expense of we "Yankees", it might not become an epidemic cache spread. Frame it as a totally boring, lame, overdone cache--that generally also doesn't have permission, and you might keep others from joining in the madness. Meaning, I'd be sure to be VERY explicit that you have obtained permission for the hide (and that you have actually received said permission), and that it really is a "no redeeming value" cache. Edit to add: I think that one of my favorite hints I gave for a LPC (that I've since adopted out) was "If this hide location were a lady, it would likely be offended..." A bit off-color, but still gave some good laughs in the logs and in person. Edited February 10, 2015 by NeverSummer Quote Link to comment
+Pinki24 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I don't understand what the fuss is about regarding these types of caches? You can just ignore them and do the style of caching that you like. This world is full of very different people and so there are styles to suit everyone. I have seen children caching on their own. They cannot travel to country or difficult locations. This gives them a chance to cache at their standard in their neighbourhood. Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 What's the fuss? It the in thing around here to dis LPC's - no matter that they are just one style of cache, one that the first few times are quite good/interesting. But if it's "boring" (seen more than once or twice) it's "bad". So let the loud anti-LPC crowd have their 'fits' about them and enjoy the cache hunts you like. Quote Link to comment
+NeverSummer Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I don't know that there's a "fuss" of "anti-LPC" happening. It's just that there are also so many other fun ways to hide in an urban setting, it almost becomes a bit too rote when you arrive at GZ and notice that there's a light pole at where GZ is indicated... Innovation is fun, and LPCs are "new" to everyone at some point. For me I'm just happy for another smiley, while I might lament that it wasn't a new or different take on an urban cache hide. I've also noticed that LPCs come and go. There really aren't that many that I encounter anymore, and even when I was in a very populated area like Olympia, WA I didn't see that many even pop up on my GPSr or PQs. So...yeah. It's all relative. Quote Link to comment
+L0ne.R Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I beg you, I plead with you... don't do it!! Caches like that breed more caches like that. Think of the example you're setting. Hide better caches, not worse caches! I understand your sentiment but lame caches are fairly rare around here. We do not have saturation problems either. There are a few guard rail caches but these are relatively rare. I'm hoping that the way we have done this one will highlight how not to hide a cache and hoping that finders will be intelligent enough to recognise it for what it is - a little bit of fun, although perhaps at the expense of our US cousins. :D You say that now... When LPCs were first coming around out here, I bet many would have awarded them a Favorite Point...just because they were new, "unique", and caused most to scratch their head while they rested their hand on the hide location. Next thing you know, everyone thought it was a good idea, and an easy and fun way to hide a cache. Then along came more and more of them in every single parking lot, along greenways...and on and on. Most still think, after finding their first, "Wow, that's a simple, plain-sight location I hadn't thought of before! I should hide a few of these so I can help others have the same feeling as I when I first lifted that lamp's skirt!" We love to share ideas that appear, at first, to be a good idea. Next thing you know you've given your community a smallpox blanket, and the unmaintained urban drivel that is a LPC become a large percentage of any cache hidden in an urban setting. Bo-ring...and quite honestly not usually placed with proper permission from anyone. I suppose if you frame it as a joke at the expense of we "Yankees", it might not become an epidemic cache spread. Frame it as a totally boring, lame, overdone cache--that generally also doesn't have permission, and you might keep others from joining in the madness. Meaning, I'd be sure to be VERY explicit that you have obtained permission for the hide (and that you have actually received said permission), and that it really is a "no redeeming value" cache. Edit to add: I think that one of my favorite hints I gave for a LPC (that I've since adopted out) was "If this hide location were a lady, it would likely be offended..." A bit off-color, but still gave some good laughs in the logs and in person. NS has a point Colleda.....you're in Australia, there's bound to be an epidemic spread. Look what happened to rabbits and cane toads when they were introduced. Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 Submitted last night, published this morning. http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC5JFF5_americas-favorite-cache GC5JFF5 Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 I beg you, I plead with you... don't do it!! Caches like that breed more caches like that. Think of the example you're setting. Hide better caches, not worse caches! I understand your sentiment but lame caches are fairly rare around here. We do not have saturation problems either. There are a few guard rail caches but these are relatively rare. I'm hoping that the way we have done this one will highlight how not to hide a cache and hoping that finders will be intelligent enough to recognise it for what it is - a little bit of fun, although perhaps at the expense of our US cousins. :D You say that now... When LPCs were first coming around out here, I bet many would have awarded them a Favorite Point...just because they were new, "unique", and caused most to scratch their head while they rested their hand on the hide location. Next thing you know, everyone thought it was a good idea, and an easy and fun way to hide a cache. Then along came more and more of them in every single parking lot, along greenways...and on and on. Most still think, after finding their first, "Wow, that's a simple, plain-sight location I hadn't thought of before! I should hide a few of these so I can help others have the same feeling as I when I first lifted that lamp's skirt!" We love to share ideas that appear, at first, to be a good idea. Next thing you know you've given your community a smallpox blanket, and the unmaintained urban drivel that is a LPC become a large percentage of any cache hidden in an urban setting. Bo-ring...and quite honestly not usually placed with proper permission from anyone. I suppose if you frame it as a joke at the expense of we "Yankees", it might not become an epidemic cache spread. Frame it as a totally boring, lame, overdone cache--that generally also doesn't have permission, and you might keep others from joining in the madness. Meaning, I'd be sure to be VERY explicit that you have obtained permission for the hide (and that you have actually received said permission), and that it really is a "no redeeming value" cache. Edit to add: I think that one of my favorite hints I gave for a LPC (that I've since adopted out) was "If this hide location were a lady, it would likely be offended..." A bit off-color, but still gave some good laughs in the logs and in person. It's unlikely there will be a rash of these because, as pointed out in a previous post, LPCs here don't have skirts. Not even this one, its actually under the base. Quote Link to comment
+NeverSummer Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I beg you, I plead with you... don't do it!! Caches like that breed more caches like that. Think of the example you're setting. Hide better caches, not worse caches! I understand your sentiment but lame caches are fairly rare around here. We do not have saturation problems either. There are a few guard rail caches but these are relatively rare. I'm hoping that the way we have done this one will highlight how not to hide a cache and hoping that finders will be intelligent enough to recognise it for what it is - a little bit of fun, although perhaps at the expense of our US cousins. :D You say that now... When LPCs were first coming around out here, I bet many would have awarded them a Favorite Point...just because they were new, "unique", and caused most to scratch their head while they rested their hand on the hide location. Next thing you know, everyone thought it was a good idea, and an easy and fun way to hide a cache. Then along came more and more of them in every single parking lot, along greenways...and on and on. Most still think, after finding their first, "Wow, that's a simple, plain-sight location I hadn't thought of before! I should hide a few of these so I can help others have the same feeling as I when I first lifted that lamp's skirt!" We love to share ideas that appear, at first, to be a good idea. Next thing you know you've given your community a smallpox blanket, and the unmaintained urban drivel that is a LPC become a large percentage of any cache hidden in an urban setting. Bo-ring...and quite honestly not usually placed with proper permission from anyone. I suppose if you frame it as a joke at the expense of we "Yankees", it might not become an epidemic cache spread. Frame it as a totally boring, lame, overdone cache--that generally also doesn't have permission, and you might keep others from joining in the madness. Meaning, I'd be sure to be VERY explicit that you have obtained permission for the hide (and that you have actually received said permission), and that it really is a "no redeeming value" cache. Edit to add: I think that one of my favorite hints I gave for a LPC (that I've since adopted out) was "If this hide location were a lady, it would likely be offended..." A bit off-color, but still gave some good laughs in the logs and in person. It's unlikely there will be a rash of these because, as pointed out in a previous post, LPCs here don't have skirts. Not even this one, its actually under the base. Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) I beg you, I plead with you... don't do it!! Caches like that breed more caches like that. Think of the example you're setting. Hide better caches, not worse caches! I understand your sentiment but lame caches are fairly rare around here. We do not have saturation problems either. There are a few guard rail caches but these are relatively rare. I'm hoping that the way we have done this one will highlight how not to hide a cache and hoping that finders will be intelligent enough to recognise it for what it is - a little bit of fun, although perhaps at the expense of our US cousins. :D You say that now... When LPCs were first coming around out here, I bet many would have awarded them a Favorite Point...just because they were new, "unique", and caused most to scratch their head while they rested their hand on the hide location. Next thing you know, everyone thought it was a good idea, and an easy and fun way to hide a cache. Then along came more and more of them in every single parking lot, along greenways...and on and on. Most still think, after finding their first, "Wow, that's a simple, plain-sight location I hadn't thought of before! I should hide a few of these so I can help others have the same feeling as I when I first lifted that lamp's skirt!" We love to share ideas that appear, at first, to be a good idea. Next thing you know you've given your community a smallpox blanket, and the unmaintained urban drivel that is a LPC become a large percentage of any cache hidden in an urban setting. Bo-ring...and quite honestly not usually placed with proper permission from anyone. I suppose if you frame it as a joke at the expense of we "Yankees", it might not become an epidemic cache spread. Frame it as a totally boring, lame, overdone cache--that generally also doesn't have permission, and you might keep others from joining in the madness. Meaning, I'd be sure to be VERY explicit that you have obtained permission for the hide (and that you have actually received said permission), and that it really is a "no redeeming value" cache. Edit to add: I think that one of my favorite hints I gave for a LPC (that I've since adopted out) was "If this hide location were a lady, it would likely be offended..." A bit off-color, but still gave some good laughs in the logs and in person. It's unlikely there will be a rash of these because, as pointed out in a previous post, LPCs here don't have skirts. Not even this one, its actually under the base. :lol: Edited February 11, 2015 by colleda Quote Link to comment
+Zepp914 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 We need to find someone here who works in construction or electrical and can send Colleda a skirt for the lamp post. If there is going to be a terrible cache in Australia, we might as well help make it as crappy as possible. Of course it will be tough finding one that fits perfectly due to fact that they converted to the metric system 30+ years ago. Quote Link to comment
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 We need to find someone here who works in construction or electrical and can send Colleda a skirt for the lamp post. If there is going to be a terrible cache in Australia, we might as well help make it as crappy as possible. Of course it will be tough finding one that fits perfectly due to fact that they converted to the metric system 30+ years ago. With some simple tools (tin snips and a pop riveter) and a sheet of aluminum you can make your own custom fit skirt. Some caching friends did just that to create a lamp skirt for a tree out in the middle of the woods. Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 Oh nooooooooooooooo! It can't be happening. My cache, GC5JFF5 America's Favorite Cache, has received a favcorite point. Even positive comments! Where did I go wrong? Quote Link to comment
+irisisleuk Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Oh nooooooooooooooo! It can't be happening. My cache, GC5JFF5 America's Favorite Cache, has received a favcorite point. Even positive comments! Where did I go wrong? The Altoids Tin. I didn't know what it was until now, but this is what went wrong []. Quote Link to comment
+Zepp914 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Oh nooooooooooooooo! It can't be happening. My cache, GC5JFF5 America's Favorite Cache, has received a favcorite point. Even positive comments! Where did I go wrong? Did you pre-soak the log and place it in a ripped zip loc bag? Quote Link to comment
+liteserenity Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Zepp914 love the comment Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hadn't considered the wet log angle. But why spoil a cachers fun of ripping the bag open themselves? Quote Link to comment
+J Grouchy Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) How would you go about describing an LPC so that it sounds like the greatest cache type ever devised (I think there's a line there)? That's quite the challenge you're presenting us with! You're asking us to improve something inherently bad. I guess there's only one way to do it: Lie. Oh...but you can! http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/polishing-a-turd-minimyth/ Edited September 14, 2015 by J Grouchy Quote Link to comment
+DeepButi Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 No photo spoiler? Man, you are really pushing it to the hard side!!! :rolleyes: :ph34r: Quote Link to comment
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