+parannoyed Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) While out on a cache yesterday with my nephew I took a few to teach him about a historical item there. While there he moves some stuff at the base and finds a geocache complete with official sticker and blank logbook inside. I doubt this happens often and I still can't quite believe it, but there it was. It was obvious this thing had been there awhile, but I didn't show it on my gps even though everything near me is loaded onto it. I checked here just to make sure and still nothing. So my question is this: Should I do anything with it? Mark it and put it into play, remove it as trash, leave it in hopes it's owner returns for it someday? Edited August 5, 2012 by parannoyed Quote Link to comment
+SwineFlew Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 You have any unknown caches that never been solved in that general area? Quote Link to comment
+The_Incredibles_ Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) Sign the logbook and replace as found. When you say 'been there awhile', what do you mean? Are the cache and contents in bad shape? Definately don't remove it. It's possible that the cache hasn't been published yet or that the cache got rejected and the owner never got around to picking it up. Did it have a GC number on it or cache owner's name or cache name, anything like that? Geocaching.com is not the only site that lists caches. Edited August 5, 2012 by The_Incredibles_ Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 I wonder if the clues are in the words "historical item" and "at its base". Not sure how such things work in USA but, here in UK, we have things called Scheduled Ancient Monuments and other similar old sites where geocaches are not allowed to be placed right on the actual spot. I wonder if this was a cache submitted, turned down at review, and the owner never bothered to return and collect the box? MrsB Quote Link to comment
+MartyBartfast Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Leave it where it is for now, and Email the details to your local reviewer who will know if it's an unfound puzzle cache, an cache that's been refused publication, or maybe one that's waiting for approval, then take action depending on the response. Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Leave it where it is for now, and Email the details to your local reviewer who will know if it's an unfound puzzle cache, an cache that's been refused publication, or maybe one that's waiting for approval, then take action depending on the response. This, and if at all possible, some coordinates for the marker. The Waymarking site may have them, if you didn't take any. That will be the most useful info for a reviewer to track down what's up with that container, assuming it is or ever was submitted or published as a cache on Geocaching.com. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Leave it where it is for now, and Email the details to your local reviewer who will know if it's an unfound puzzle cache, an cache that's been refused publication, or maybe one that's waiting for approval, then take action depending on the response. This, and if at all possible, some coordinates for the marker. The Waymarking site may have them, if you didn't take any. That will be the most useful info for a reviewer to track down what's up with that container, assuming it is or ever was submitted or published as a cache on Geocaching.com. I agree. Including the part about it could have never even been submitted. I am aware of a cache that someone stumbled on in a park (and it was definitely a Geocache, intended to be listed on Geocaching.com per the logbook) that the local reviewer in that area told the finder was never submitted. It was perfectly legal too, .3 miles from the only other cache that had ever been/still is placed in that rural town park. Eh, I just like to type, but there's an example it could never have been submitted. Definitely contact the local reviewer with the coordinates! Quote Link to comment
+Dog Town Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Could it be the end of a 'multi' or 'puzzle cache' where you get the coords. leading up to here from other caches or directions from CO? Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Do you have approximate coordinates? I suspect Mrs Blorenge is correct, but it would be nice to know for sure. Quote Link to comment
cezanne Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I wonder if the clues are in the words "historical item" and "at its base". Not sure how such things work in USA but, here in UK, we have things called Scheduled Ancient Monuments and other similar old sites where geocaches are not allowed to be placed right on the actual spot. I envy the UK situation (not only as ancient monuments are regarded also as stone walls are regarded) - I'd like to have something similar in my country. I'm curious, however, how the reviewers manage to do their work. Is their a catalogue of these monuments that can be searched by coordinates? Cezanne Quote Link to comment
+Graculus Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 We are lucky in the UK in having an excellent government map, the Multi Agency Geographic Information for the Countryside (MAGIC) which shows us many land areas where we know caching is allowed or not or with permission. So ancient monuments, sensitive natural sites, nature reserves etc all appear on it. So checking a cache location is quite easy. You can see an example of how it works here. Not all countries have such a resource which makes a reviewers job more difficult. Chris Graculus Volunteer UK Reviewer for geocaching.com UK Geocaching Information & Resources website - www.follow-the-arrow.co.uk UK Geocaching Wiki Geocaching.com Help Center Quote Link to comment
+parannoyed Posted August 10, 2012 Author Share Posted August 10, 2012 Sorry haven't been on in a bit. The cache is old, wet, ink is faded on the geocaching.com sticker on it. Can't make the name out. It's near this is location but it should be fair game. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=6cc1b8ff-189d-429a-8994-99080fc533a9 How do I get ahold of the reviewer? Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 The local reviewer is the one who hit the publish button. You can see his log all the way at the bottom of the listing. The cache you linked to has a PA DCNR permit icon because it's in a state forest. I'm betting that the one you found either never bothered to get a permit or was denied one. Quote Link to comment
+parannoyed Posted August 10, 2012 Author Share Posted August 10, 2012 The local reviewer is the one who hit the publish button. You can see his log all the way at the bottom of the listing. The cache you linked to has a PA DCNR permit icon because it's in a state forest. I'm betting that the one you found either never bothered to get a permit or was denied one. Thanks:) Quote Link to comment
+OReviewer Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Without more info, there isn't much I can tell you. The closest unpublished cache to the one you link to is almost 1 mile away and traditional so I doubt it is that. As for what to do with it, I can not comment on that. I will allow non-volunteers to give you opinions on that. Quote Link to comment
+parannoyed Posted August 10, 2012 Author Share Posted August 10, 2012 This is as close as I can get you, that is within feet of the geocache. 41.818159 -77.448649 Quote Link to comment
+Afterburned Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Why not list it as yours? Quote Link to comment
+OReviewer Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 This is as close as I can get you, that is within feet of the geocache. 41.818159 -77.448649 Sorry, no info for you. The closest to that is about 0.1 miles away. Quote Link to comment
+parannoyed Posted August 10, 2012 Author Share Posted August 10, 2012 If it "doesn't exist" and no one claims it, I guess I will give it a more water proof home and some new paper and submit it. Quote Link to comment
+stijnhommes Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Check with other sites that list geocaches. It might be published elsewhere. Quote Link to comment
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