+MustangJoni Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 I am generally considered a patient nice guy, ask anyone... I have been more than patient about this AEToys Dragonfly coin. I have tried to give support when all others have given up. But I am concerned how the new AEToys management will work out. If they don't address this issue there wont be any sales from the geocaching community. I would assume Groundspeak would be reluctant to allow them to further take advantage of it's users and continue to give geocoin enthusiast the run around. Stealing from the Caching community isn't a good business practice. Geowoodstock is just around the corner, I hope to attend (had plans but time has eroded them - still hopeful). It would be just awful if the reputation of AEToys wasn't cleared by then. I fear it would be the doom of the name AEToys for sure. Probably with as many geocoin enthusiast involved I imagine any and all caching names involved with AEToys (even friends that sell coins) will be soured as well. Word gets around very quickly at such a mega event (well over 800 attending). They could be in for some heavy duty bashing. IMHO. Their support is dwindling fast. I know that my Email hasn't been answered, there appears to be no activity toward salvaging AEToys by this new management. I will find it impossible to support it. I hate to be wrong especially about fellow geocachers. It is truly a sad day for me, this is the first really negative situation in geocaching where fellow geocachers are concerned. But one bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch right. You have been very patient, and very kind. But I do think that these people have hit a rough patch and spent the money on their personal needs. I have always been opposed to this. To me it is stealing. Some of these vendors have eventually come up with the coins. But could you trust that vendor again? I wouldn't. This type of behavior shows their true character. When the going gets tough, instead of doing the right thing, they are content to take other people's hard earned money. I've also noticed that several of these rouge vendors started out blaming "mint problems" for the delay. Then they stop communicating. If someone complains about it, they call it a personal vendetta. If more than one person complains,. it is a lynch mob. It is time to stop rewarding this type of behavior. By continuing to support this type of behavior, it makes the rest of the community sitting ducks for the next guy. I doubt you will ever see the coins you ordered. You might get a refund someday. I wish you the best of luck, because nobody deserves this type of treatment! Cpt. FrenchFry - paid for coin on 5/26/08 - never have received any thing other than the following email on 12-10-08 - "Karen, I want to start by saying I am deeply sorry for all the issues we have had in the past six months. Like so many people and companies this year we have been faced with some really hard times. The biggest mistake I made is the lack of communication. I am deeply sorry for this and wish I could go back and change this. I did not communicate due to the nature of some really mean emails and phone calls threatening myself and my family; I just did not know how to answer them and was hoping that I could solve the problems before much more time past. We have watched our company and our personal finance spin out of control to the point of almost loosing everything. Faced with no job and no income from the store we hit bottom. I am committed to make things right and will have our company and our personal situation back on track soon. I know that it may be too late to save the company but even if we are forced to close I will make things right with you. Thank you for the trust you gave us with your order, I am deeply sorry for betraying this trust; I hope you can see it in your heart to forgive us. I have a record of all refund requests and will honor them, as soon as we are able. I promise we will deliver on all the orders we have pending. If anyone wants to take store credit for these outstanding orders please do so just make a note of the pending order number you would like credit for and I will ship the new orders in place of the orders pending. The problems we have had have nothing to do with Goundspeak or any other vendors and I hope you do not hold these issues against them. Thank you for any understanding you give us in this matter. Sincerely, Mark Alan and Elli's" I still have seen no coin or no refund or anything else. I have checked their webpage again today and this is the new message you see "This site is for sale. More information soon." I hope people are retrieving their activation codes. Quote Link to comment
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