+surteb Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I'm guessing the capital letters are also significant. Quote Link to comment
+Damenace Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 anyone try a frog coin or lizard coin? Or the Chanpoeg or Spinning Dragon? Quote Link to comment
+Damenace Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Alright, there is much mention of "keywords", up to this point what style of decyphering have people used? So far: vigenere square cipher Rot 13 ADFGVX Quote Link to comment
+mousekakat Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I've cracked the code he used for the hint, but am STILL clueless how it ties in to the original puzzle.... Quote Link to comment
Son of Cyclops Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 What is the hint? Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Ok, with a little help from my friends...we got the hint. Using a Caeserian Shift Cipher, the hint translates as: "We of peaceful London City have never beheld—and please" That is the opening line of Chapter 32 in Vanity Fair. Moscow 32 Chapter 32 Methinks the key to the puzzle is 32. Now to figure out which cypher was used... Quote Link to comment
+PengoFamily Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Now that I am home from work I am working on this again.... I have tried the following decipher methods: -rot13 -caesar cipher mousekakat would you like to share what the hint means please??? Quote Link to comment
+GPX Navigators Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Ok, with a little help from my friends...we got the hint. Using a Caeserian Shift Cipher, the hint translates as: "We of peaceful London City have never beheld—and please" That is the opening line of Chapter 32 in Vanity Fair. Moscow 32 Chapter 32 Methinks the key to the puzzle is 32. Now to figure out which cypher was used... Cool. I got as far as never and We without the keyword. I tried 32 with ROT-13 earlier did not work. Quote Link to comment
+LadyBee4T Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I just got the hint too but still haven't figured out what Dennis said LOL I've been playing with the playfair cypher gird Quote Link to comment
+mousekakat Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Cornerstone listed the code as it is deciphered.... Head gonna explode, lol! Quote Link to comment
Son of Cyclops Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I think my head already exploded. Quote Link to comment
+Cornerstone4 Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I tried a Gronsfeld cipher which uses numbers instead of a word for the key...but came up with gibberish! Quote Link to comment
+moscow32 Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 I'm sorry to see so many exploded heads. I'll call the janitor! Quote Link to comment
+LadyBee4T Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I'm sorry to see so many exploded heads. I'll call the janitor! No explosions here but then again I haven't started dinner yet and with the time I have spent on this so far I may forget it if I do. so listen for the sirens responding to the kitchen fire!! Quote Link to comment
+moscow32 Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 I'm sorry to see so many exploded heads. I'll call the janitor! No explosions here but then again I haven't started dinner yet and with the time I have spent on this so far I may forget it if I do. so listen for the sirens responding to the kitchen fire!! I'll keep my ears open. If I see fire trucks headed that way, I'll know, and I'll send a janitor over to clean up the exploded head. Quote Link to comment
+Vegas Gamblers Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Alright just got home from the Doctors office and I tried to read through all the post but may have missed something. Can someone bring me up to speed as to what we all are trying to do. Quote Link to comment
+deafnut Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Well i try to fiugues it out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
+deafnut Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Well i try to fiugues it out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
wwflover13 Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Alright just got home from the Doctors office and I tried to read through all the post but may have missed something. Can someone bring me up to speed as to what we all are trying to do. We're all back to trying to figure out the original puzzle. A encrypted hint was given, wich ended up being "We of peaceful London City have never beheld—and please" (the opening line of Chapter 32 in Vanity Fair) Yes, I too am working this puzzle, I've just been using my time to actually work the puzzle instead of posting about it Quote Link to comment
+mousekakat Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Thirty two... 32.... chapter 32, moscow 32..... Quote Link to comment
+LadyBee4T Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Ok I just read ch 32 of Vanity Fair and decided I don't want to read the rest of the book...... http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-ete...y-vanity-32.htm Quote Link to comment
+ByrnedFish Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 more observations/conclusions i am 99% sure that each group of letters doenst represnt a 5 letter word, becuase this would mean 25 different 5 letter words, and it would be highly unlikely that 25 5 ltter words could be strung together to form a coherent sentence. maybe each group of 5 letters each represent 1 letter, and the entire sentence is only 25 letters? - i tried adding the values of all the letters in a group, and and then dividing that by 26 and assigning the letter of the reminder to that group, but it doest work. i also tried adding the values of all the letters, then adding until i ended up with a single digit number (like the check he provides), but nothing came of that either Quote Link to comment
+moscow32 Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 Ok I just read ch 32 of Vanity Fair and decided I don't want to read the rest of the book...... http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-ete...y-vanity-32.htm LOL! No need to read it. Here's a fairly good picture of what we're playing for. Just to be clear, the LEs are not trackable, but they are numbered! (As far as I know, there is only one person with a complete set of these coins out there, aside from myself, of course. You could be the next!) I'm going caching now, so I won't be back for a while. I'm ok if this puzzle isn't solved today... or tomorrow... Go caching! Quote Link to comment
+LadyBee4T Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I figured after a bit of reading that I really didn't want to know Amelia and the others Now I already have a couple of these so if someone wants to give me a hint but then maybe I'll go for trades.... LOL Quote Link to comment
Son of Cyclops Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Maybe I might just see you drop a coin in a cache and I might go and get it! Quote Link to comment
+mousekakat Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 It has something to do with 32.... xxxii, three x's and two i's, moscow 32, chapter 32... SOMETHING TO DO WITH 32.... Question is... what?? Quote Link to comment
+LadyBee4T Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 What caches are you going to hit Brady? LOL Quote Link to comment
+LadyBee4T Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 It has something to do with 32.... xxxii, three x's and two i's, moscow 32, chapter 32... SOMETHING TO DO WITH 32.... Question is... what?? How about eliminating or using every certain number of rows or columns as I think we have way to many letters here to form just one word.. Of course as Dennis said maybe it is a sentence that you need to answer. Quote Link to comment
+mousekakat Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 (edited) and another, 3+2=5, the number of letters in each group of letters...and 5 groups of letters per row Edited August 17, 2007 by mousekakat Quote Link to comment
+LadyBee4T Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 and another, 3+2=5, the number of letters in each group of letters...and 5 groups of letters per row That's a good idea too Now more grids to work on sigh I guess Harry Potter will wait until later Quote Link to comment
+mousekakat Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I finished HP a couple of weeks ago, want the ending so you can figure this thang out for me? It's almost 1 am here and I'm in my first trimester and exhausted! Quote Link to comment
+LadyBee4T Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 NOOOOOO I don't want the ending until tomorrow night when I will haven't hopefully finished it!! LOL Quote Link to comment
+PengoFamily Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 This is driving me crazy!! LOL There has to be at least 2 levels of encryption that we are trying to figure out. I really don't think the letters on that moth picture 'convert' into something meaningful....it's my feeling that they convert into another number or letter (by it's grouping of 5) then from that we decipher the message. But I could be wrong. mousekakat you should get some sleep. it's important...I'd be very surprised if someone solves this tonight. And if by some miracle (and I mean big miracle) that I figure it out and you're alseep I will send you one of the 4 coins. But don't hold your breath for me solving this thing.....my hubby is the puzzle solver in the house. I showed him the puzzle and being it's Friday and all he doesn't want to go crazy with it...not even for 4 geocoins!! LOL He wants to relax....LOL Quote Link to comment
+Vegas Gamblers Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 This is driving me crazy!! LOL There has to be at least 2 levels of encryption that we are trying to figure out. I really don't think the letters on that moth picture 'convert' into something meaningful....it's my feeling that they convert into another number or letter (by it's grouping of 5) then from that we decipher the message. But I could be wrong. mousekakat you should get some sleep. it's important...I'd be very surprised if someone solves this tonight. And if by some miracle (and I mean big miracle) that I figure it out and you're alseep I will send you one of the 4 coins. But don't hold your breath for me solving this thing.....my hubby is the puzzle solver in the house. I showed him the puzzle and being it's Friday and all he doesn't want to go crazy with it...not even for 4 geocoins!! LOL He wants to relax....LOL Don't worry PF, we will get this solved tonight. Quote Link to comment
+MommyFinder Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 more observations/conclusions i am 99% sure that each group of letters doenst represnt a 5 letter word, becuase this would mean 25 different 5 letter words, and it would be highly unlikely that 25 5 ltter words could be strung together to form a coherent sentence. maybe each group of 5 letters each represent 1 letter, and the entire sentence is only 25 letters? - i tried adding the values of all the letters in a group, and and then dividing that by 26 and assigning the letter of the reminder to that group, but it doest work. i also tried adding the values of all the letters, then adding until i ended up with a single digit number (like the check he provides), but nothing came of that either I believe spaces and punctuation have been removed, and the letters are just broken into groups of 5. When the letters are deciphered, you have to put spacing in where it belongs. That would follow the ADFGVX thing. Quote Link to comment
+mousekakat Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 (edited) Ok, can't stay up any longer, I've got a 15 month old that will be up in about 5 hours, urgh! Thankfully it's Saturday and Mr Mousekakat can help a bit! Here's what I've come up with so far: It has something to do with 32.... xxxii, three x's and two i's, moscow 32, chapter 32... SOMETHING TO DO WITH 32.... Question is... what?? and and another, 3+2=5, the number of letters in each group of letters...and 5 groups of letters per row Now, looking at the original graphic, the letters of the code are the letters in the name Moscow... and according to what we're all guessing, 32 has something to do with it, so his nickname is part of the answer key. There was a code where you used a keyword, I'm thinking either he didn't use both o's, or he scrambled the word moscow, not sure. In any case, I think that 32, XXXII, 3 and 2... that has something to do with it. Just at a total loss as to what it is! Off to the land of dreams for me... I sure hope someone figures it out, but then again, at the same time, I hope they don't, lol, so I can try again tomorrow! Ni-night, all! Naomi Edited August 17, 2007 by mousekakat Quote Link to comment
SCYoli Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I'm, thinking drop the "O" use moscw as the keyword... Quote Link to comment
+LadyBee4T Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 It has to be more than one layer of encryption too Quote Link to comment
+Damenace Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Now is it time for a hint? I'll drop a hint just before I leave work in about 25 minutes. ADFGVX??? I'm, thinking drop the "O" use moscw as the keyword... ADFGVX, is based off of a six letter keyword. Bingo!!! Moscow fits the bill, notice I didn't say that it was the answer. Quote Link to comment
+LadyBee4T Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 ADFGVX Still not getting what this is. Can someone clue me in? Quote Link to comment
+MommyFinder Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Now is it time for a hint? I'll drop a hint just before I leave work in about 25 minutes. ADFGVX??? I'm, thinking drop the "O" use moscw as the keyword... ADFGVX, is based off of a six letter keyword. Bingo!!! Moscow fits the bill, notice I didn't say that it was the answer. Actually, the keyword can be any length. Quote Link to comment
+MommyFinder Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 ADFGVX Still not getting what this is. Can someone clue me in? ADFGVX Cipher Quote Link to comment
+LadyBee4T Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 ADFGVX Still not getting what this is. Can someone clue me in? ADFGVX Cipher Thanks! I think this will take a bit of time to digest though! LOL Quote Link to comment
+The Walkabouts Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 This has been fun watching.........not playing........just watching. I know where he caches and for a nominal fee I can hunt him down for you all Tar, feathers, torture......anything else on the list that I missed. Quote Link to comment
+MommyFinder Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 This has been fun watching.........not playing........just watching. I know where he caches and for a nominal fee I can hunt him down for you all Tar, feathers, torture......anything else on the list that I missed. I think you forgot the exploding brain! Quote Link to comment
+LadyBee4T Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 This has been fun watching.........not playing........just watching. I know where he caches and for a nominal fee I can hunt him down for you all Tar, feathers, torture......anything else on the list that I missed. Lets both go Jeff!! Quote Link to comment
+Scoutbound Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 I'm 99.9% sure I know which two ways I need to decode the cypher... It's just really hard. Quote Link to comment
+ByrnedFish Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 I'm 99.9% sure I know which two ways I need to decode the cypher... It's just really hard. i'll help.... Quote Link to comment
SCYoli Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Tar, feathers, torture......anything else on the list that I missed. Nah no tar and feathering. I was just picking on my kids today about forgetting everything over the summer break and now I am giving myself a headache trying to figure this out! Now I have the husband helping me too. I have used a Polybius square with the letters "Moscw" (I didn't use "O" twice because it was a repeat), against the letters in the puzzle: MM OO CC CS OM MM CM MW OW OC OC OM CW CS OS OO MS MM MW MM CS CS MC MC OM OM SW SW CS SC SS CC OS MO OW MC MS SC WW SC CS MS CC WW CO SC CS CO OM MM SM MO MC SO WS SC OM MC CM WC CM CC OC CS. Nada, nothing. Quote Link to comment
Son of Cyclops Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 I think we need a big hint form Moscow Quote Link to comment
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