Dan LXIX Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 ebay sale Is this a con, or simply an out of date version? I've not used any mapping software, but this looks a very good price. Will this version allow my to overlay tracklogs, routes etc? Quote Link to comment
+Another Mr Lizard Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hmm, not sure. Looking at his feedback history, he's certainly sold a lot of them. I would probably use the "ask seller a question" link and ask if they're original disks. Quote Link to comment
+dino-irl Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 That does seem way too good to be true. It's probably not an original disk. Whether that bothers you or not is another thing! It may also only be the maps and not the actual MM program itself. He doesn't actually say that it's the program and maps as far as I can see. Quote Link to comment
+kbootb Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 It does seem very cheap. Looks like the 'one before current' version. If so it's the one I use and I'm happy with it. As far as I remember the program was on the disks along with the map data. But I think I had to enter a serial number and possibly even connect to the internet to register it. Might be wrong there. Are you up for a £20 gamble? To be honest, I would have had real trouble with the maps on my PDA last week as I spent a few days caching in unknown territory and would have wasted ages trying to find the start of the right footpath each time. Yes I could have used a paper map but I didn't want to buy maps for all the places I might go caching in. Quote Link to comment
Dan LXIX Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 That does seem way too good to be true. It's probably not an original disk. Whether that bothers you or not is another thing! It may also only be the maps and not the actual MM program itself. He doesn't actually say that it's the program and maps as far as I can see. It does say the disc and serial, so I guess it does have the software with it. I suppose if it's a copy I could claim it back off my credit card as fraud. Quote Link to comment
+Paul G0TLG Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) I've just ordered, so if you can wait a couple of days I'll let you know :-) I've already got a legal copy of the software, but some of my map disks have been damaged (guess who was too daft to back up their disks? ), so even if it's only the maps it's no loss to me, as that's all I need. Edited April 19, 2006 by Paul G0TLG Quote Link to comment
Dan LXIX Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hmm, not sure. Looking at his feedback history, he's certainly sold a lot of them. I would probably use the "ask seller a question" link and ask if they're original disks. I have done. I half expect that it's the free demo and a set of dodgy maps. Quote Link to comment
+The Klever Boys Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 It looks to be the program plus the 1 in 50k OS maps and may well be genuine. The thing I would be cautious about (and isn't mentioned) is if the MM program has already been used and the serial number registered to someone else. Personally, I'd take the gamble - these things can be got round if necessary! Quote Link to comment
Dan LXIX Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 I've just ordered, so if you can wait a couple of days I'll let you know :-) I've already got a legal copy of the software, but some of my map disks have been damaged (guess who was too daft to back up their disks? ), so even if it's only the maps it's no loss to me, as that's all I need. If it is legal, I'll split the cost and buy the serial number off you if you like (well you have to be cheeky sometimes ) Quote Link to comment
+Pharisee Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) ebay sale Is this a con, or simply an out of date version? I've not used any mapping software, but this looks a very good price. Will this version allow my to overlay tracklogs, routes etc? That's the version I use. Yes, you can overlay tracklogs recorded on a GPSr. You can create tracks and routes on you PC and download them to your GPSr. You can move 'waypoint's in both directions too Example: this track was recorded by my Legend last Saturday Edited April 19, 2006 by Pharisee Quote Link to comment
+Learned Gerbil Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I just love this bit - "ATTENTION Ebay Staff!!!!! This auction in no way violates Ebay policies and not intended." I always find it so reassuring to see that in an auction description. Quote Link to comment
+Nellies Knackers Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Although the map area picture shows 6 areas the description mentions 12 areas so it must be the pre V5 stuff, pretty much guaranteed to be copies but thats down to your own morals. The pre V5 maps are still very good and will work with later versions(if you know how). Quote Link to comment
+Moote Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Do you have to buy Memory Map? Quote Link to comment
+Nellies Knackers Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Do you have to buy Memory Map? Some choose to! But I'm not sure why I got mine in free with a packet of cornflakes Quote Link to comment
+Moote Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Just off to Tesco then Quote Link to comment
+BikerKats Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 We saw this advertised last week, and e-mailed the seller asking if these were genuine memory map disks or illegal copies. We received no reply and drew our own conclusions. Each region of genuine memory map comes on its own CD. They do not supply all 12 regions on one CD. Each disk will come with its own serial number. You must have this serial number in order to register with memory map so that they can e-mail you the keycode to enable you to have full rights to run and use the software. For instance, without the keycode you will not be able to download caches from geocaching.com to memorymap. For what it's worth, we have been using memory map 2004 version since it was first released and find it very useful for geocaching (and cycling and driving). We have an IPAQ 5450 PDA to which you can transfer selections of maps via a serial cable, then using either a bluetooth or GPS linked via a serial cable you can track a route to the cache. Genuine memory-map 2004, costs around £15.00 per region and can be obtained from evo distribution Note: Version 2004 is not compatible with the new V5 memory-map!!! hope this helps. regards BikerKats Quote Link to comment
+Pharisee Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) Duff post... sorry Edited April 19, 2006 by Pharisee Quote Link to comment
+Pharisee Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Do you have to buy Memory Map? No.... you can download it for free from their web site. HOWEVER.... it's not a lot of use without their maps and you have to pay through the nose for them!! Quote Link to comment
+Nellies Knackers Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Note: Version 2004 is not compatible with the new V5 memory-map!!! I did say "if you know how" I use version 5.0.0 with 2004 areas 1-12 and they work just fine, I will not divulge how here (but don't take that as "I will not divulge at all") but it can be useful as V5 maps are too big for sd card use in full. Quote Link to comment
Dan LXIX Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 I'm not buying dodgy software. If I wanted dodgy software, I could find it Ah well, looks like I'll be spending some more money Quote Link to comment
+Kitty Hawk Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 (edited) I bought memory map on the cheap and it didn't do everything that 'non cheap' memory map did so I ended up buying it from the shop anyway. EDIT - to make sure I was the right side of a fine line. Edited April 20, 2006 by Kitty Hawk Quote Link to comment
Lactodorum Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Please remember that this forum must NOT be used to promote "Software Piracy". If you wish to do that please go elsewhere. While I don't have a problem with people discussing Pirate software, actively inviting others to acquire it is another matter. Let's keep to the right side of that very fine line please. Quote Link to comment
Dan LXIX Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 (edited) Can anyone tell me if they think this ebay sale would not include a serial number please? They mention it not being upgradeable and Memory-Map say a valid serial number is needed to upgrade. My understanding is you need a serial number to unlock the facility to import and plot trackroutes and waypoints - is that correct or have I got that wrong? Edited April 21, 2006 by Dan LXIX Quote Link to comment
+stora Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Have you asked the seller? That would be my first point of call Quote Link to comment
Dan LXIX Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 (edited) Have you asked the seller? That would be my first point of call Yeah I have, but I thought I'd ask here as well because you don't always get a reply from sellers (I never got one from my original post). Edited April 21, 2006 by Dan LXIX Quote Link to comment
+CrazyL200 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Can anyone tell me if they think this ebay sale would not include a serial number please? They mention it not being upgradeable and Memory-Map say a valid serial number is needed to upgrade. My understanding is you need a serial number to unlock the facility to import and plot trackroutes and waypoints - is that correct or have I got that wrong? The seller, Evo Ditribution, is the official Memory Map distributor. Also, if you check the email link towards the bottom of the page it's to a guy at memory-map.co.uk So I would suggest it's a legit clearance (trying to get rid of 2004 stock, now V5 is on sale) by Memory-map.co.uk (Evo distribution) and would come with a legit serial number. You do need the serial number to unlock the facility to import and plot trackroutes also for some of the printing functions you also need a serial upgrade (pro version, if I remember correctly) during which you confirm the serial number supplied with the CDs, which is then replaced by a new serial number. The serial numbers are supposed to be "locked" to a user and a pc and you may need MM assistance in the event of having to reload the software due to the MM registration process. There are, as others have commented, ways of getting around the registration process, but if you were do such a thing, and then request support for a problem resolution, from Evo / MM, they would quickly point out to you that you have an illegal version or copy. It's amazing how the combination of cookies, spyware and other "hidden" tricks software suppliers build in, can be used to track down illegal versions. Quote Link to comment
+CrazyL200 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Going back to the original post : ebay sale Is this a con, or simply an out of date version? I've not used any mapping software, but this looks a very good price. Will this version allow my to overlay tracklogs, routes etc? Funny how this seller is now : No longer registered with eBay All 12 regions on one disc - no way, they were originally supplied on 12 cds, each with it's own serial number either per disc or per set of regions. When I bought the whole of the UK it came in 4 boxed sets, so 4 serial numbers. Quote Link to comment
+Birders Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 <<it's not a lot of use without their maps and you have to pay through the nose for them!!>> Pay through the nose - are you nuts?? MM are selling the "old" V4 maps for around £14. Just count up how many Landranger maps you get for that. Even at the full price of £49 they were a real bargain. Just remember what you can do with MM... It's fantastic programme. Quote Link to comment
Dan LXIX Posted April 23, 2006 Author Share Posted April 23, 2006 Funny how this seller is now : No longer registered with eBay All 12 regions on one disc - no way, they were originally supplied on 12 cds, each with it's own serial number either per disc or per set of regions. When I bought the whole of the UK it came in 4 boxed sets, so 4 serial numbers. That's not at all supprising really is it Quote Link to comment
Dan LXIX Posted April 23, 2006 Author Share Posted April 23, 2006 (edited) [The seller, Evo Ditribution, is the official Memory Map distributor. Also, if you check the email link towards the bottom of the page it's to a guy at memory-map.co.uk So I would suggest it's a legit clearance (trying to get rid of 2004 stock, now V5 is on sale) by Memory-map.co.uk (Evo distribution) and would come with a legit serial number. You do need the serial number to unlock the facility to import and plot trackroutes also for some of the printing functions you also need a serial upgrade (pro version, if I remember correctly) during which you confirm the serial number supplied with the CDs, which is then replaced by a new serial number. The serial numbers are supposed to be "locked" to a user and a pc and you may need MM assistance in the event of having to reload the software due to the MM registration process. There are, as others have commented, ways of getting around the registration process, but if you were do such a thing, and then request support for a problem resolution, from Evo / MM, they would quickly point out to you that you have an illegal version or copy. It's amazing how the combination of cookies, spyware and other "hidden" tricks software suppliers build in, can be used to track down illegal versions. Thanks for that info. My only concern is it doesn't come with a serial number to unlock the GPS features. I don't mind not being able to upgrade. Problem is, they haven't replied to my message, which makes me wonder if it's numberless or not Edited April 23, 2006 by Dan LXIX Quote Link to comment
+BikerKats Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 [The seller, Evo Ditribution, is the official Memory Map distributor. Also, if you check the email link towards the bottom of the page it's to a guy at memory-map.co.uk So I would suggest it's a legit clearance (trying to get rid of 2004 stock, now V5 is on sale) by Memory-map.co.uk (Evo distribution) and would come with a legit serial number. You do need the serial number to unlock the facility to import and plot trackroutes also for some of the printing functions you also need a serial upgrade (pro version, if I remember correctly) during which you confirm the serial number supplied with the CDs, which is then replaced by a new serial number. The serial numbers are supposed to be "locked" to a user and a pc and you may need MM assistance in the event of having to reload the software due to the MM registration process. There are, as others have commented, ways of getting around the registration process, but if you were do such a thing, and then request support for a problem resolution, from Evo / MM, they would quickly point out to you that you have an illegal version or copy. It's amazing how the combination of cookies, spyware and other "hidden" tricks software suppliers build in, can be used to track down illegal versions. Thanks for that info. My only concern is it doesn't come with a serial number to unlock the GPS features. I don't mind not being able to upgrade. Problem is, they haven't replied to my message, which makes me wonder if it's numberless or not We bought MM Region 6 from EVO last week and it came sealed and with serial number and works perfectly. We agree that this is almost certainly memory map selling off their 2004 version software. Go for it - £15 is a very good price for all those maps (just checked invoice and it came to £17.90 with postage). Quote Link to comment
Dan LXIX Posted April 23, 2006 Author Share Posted April 23, 2006 We bought MM Region 6 from EVO last week and it came sealed and with serial number and works perfectly. We agree that this is almost certainly memory map selling off their 2004 version software. Go for it - £15 is a very good price for all those maps (just checked invoice and it came to £17.90 with postage). Thanks. I'm going to get it while the price is good Quote Link to comment
+CrazyL200 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Just had this reply from EVO distribution to a question I asked on their Ebay sale page. Hi All our software is brand new, unregistered and fully packaged. Many thanks Quote Link to comment
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