Bill93 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Correction: the data sheet says AH7373 (IA) Equinox, Inc. is in Idaho (ID) not Iowa (IA). Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 (edited) True. Also, I was dyslexic with the Air Force marker; it should be AE4289, not AE2489. I have a short list of corrections for the web page, a few in data and most in formatting. Between all of the submissions I estimate the list is going to be about 550 agencies/types of disks (probably 440 different agencies) by the time I'm through the spreadsheets. There will be 150 or so that don't have photos yet, some of which have been logged on Geocaching. Here's some: LF0400 (US) USGS & State Survey [Type II] AB4095 (NE) Nebraska Department of Roads LG1416 (US) National Geodetic Service Reference Mark KV6548 (NJ) Somerset County KP0300 (US) USAF Gravity Station KR1828 (US) US Navy Geothermal Subsidence Survey OG0589 (NY) City of Lockport Geodetic Control AB3840 (NY) New York State Dept. of Transportation [Type III] AE2191 (NY) New York State Dept. of Transportation [Type IV] AE3336 (OH) City of Dayton Department of Planning AE3346 (OH) City of Dayton Water Department JZ0757 (OH) City of Cincinnati [Type III] JZ3510 (OH) City of Cincinnati Traverse Station JX2285 (OH) **City of Marietta AE2615 (OH) Augliaze County Engineers Office Bad photo: MB3147 (OH) City of Akron Boundary Corner JY1789 (OH) Greene County AA6336 (OH) Tuscarawas County AI6812 (OH) Warren County Wrong PID, new agency: AA5410 (MI) SSOE RY0118 (MT) Montana State Highway Commission KR1265 (NV) Nevada Deparment of Transportation Edited December 22, 2005 by BuckBrooke Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 We couldn't find a PID# for this one, but had to at least post a picture so you could see the "Name" of the setting agency. Found east of Tucson, AZ. John Quote Link to comment
+Black Dog Trackers Posted December 29, 2005 Author Share Posted December 29, 2005 Seen in the current Benchmark Gallery - GR0593 (US) Bureau of Reclamation [Type II] (3D disk with large cross) CK6193 (GA) City of Savannah AE4034 (MD) Engineers Dept. (Baltimore County?) AC7232 (MO) DNR Geographic Reference System LW5802 (MA) Mass. Dept. of Public Works [Type II] Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 (edited) Ok, I'm done going through the state by state spreadsheets. I may (probably) have missed a few, but... I have better photos for about 15 agencies, and corrections to another 15 or so. I've found a number of agencies that didn't previously have photos, but the list of non-photoed disks has expanded significantly. I'll be reorganizing things soon. Found and photoed: EM1090 (OK) Oklahoma Department of Transporation AA5132 (US) U.S. Dept. of Interior Bureau of Land Management Control Survey (cool disc) NZ1141 (OR) City of Medford Reference disk NZ0805 (US) US National Gravity Base Station AI1993 (OR) Douglas County RD1715 (OR) **Yamhill County QE0682 (US) U.S. Engineer Office Oregon RD1588 (OR) City of Portland [Type II] QE0634 (OR) Oregon State University - Tau Beta Pi RB0343 (OR) Pacific Power & Light Company AB6492 (PA) **ADR Geodetic Survey CK5668 (SC) South Carolina Coastal Council AI2630 (SC) South Carolina Department of Highways and Public Transportation DD4562 (SC) South Carolina Coastal Council [Type II] AI7538 (SD) Rapid City - Pennington County FE2836 (TN) *Mephis Light Gas and Water AV0984 (TX) Jefferson County Appraisal District CS3400 (TX) Texas Department of Highways and Public Transportation AC6325 (TX) Texas Department of Highways and Public Transportation [Type II] AA3690 (UT) Salt Lake Survey (cool disc) AE4743 (UT) Salt Lake City Corp. AA3392 (UT) Utah County Land Survey HV3311 (US) National Military Park HV5110 (VA) Public Buildings and Public Parks [Type II] GW2574 (VA) County of Amherst GW2680 (VA) Bedford County GW2797 (VA) City of Bedford Ah3581 (VT) Vermont Agency of Transportation [Type II] AA6396 (US) The Supreme Court of the United States [Type II] AB7404 (US) The Supreme Court of the United State Reference Mark AA8852 (VT) Vermont Highway Department AB7324 (VT) Vermont Geodetic Survey AA5929 (WA) *David Evans and Associates AB5000 (WA) Datum Pacific, Inc. AA5928 (WA) Kittitas County AH7024 (WA) Pacific County SY5737 (WA) City of Redmond TR2547 (WA) Washington Land Survey Association AF9927 (WI) Bayfield County OM1238 (WI) Dane County AF9946 (WI) Wisconsin Department of Transportation [Type IV] AG9596 (WI) Sawyer County OL0154 (WI) City of Milwaukee AA2122 (WY) Wyoming Department of Transportation Bad photo: FJ1382 (OK) Oklahoma Department of Highways RD1589 (OR) ??? AC6722 (SC) South Carolina Santee Cooper PS Authority (cool pic) Edited January 5, 2006 by BuckBrooke Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 (edited) Here's the additions to the new agency, no photo list. In some cases the listed PID is the only PID for that agency that I could find; others below have many PIDs for that agency. If you're planning some benchmarking for the future, please consider getting one of these marks that are nearby you. New agency, no photo: AA1896 (AK) ASLS - Alaska State Land Survey UW8063 (AK) Alaska Department of Natural Resources TT4594 (AK) R + M Consultants AA1890 (US) NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association UW8069 (AK) ?? LDGO TT0865 (US) ?? Department of Defense AA1953 (AL) Jefferson County AE5512 (AL) Escambia County AE3010 (AR) Baxter County EJ0509 (AR) Arkansas Geodetic Survey AE2992 (AR) Arkansas Highway Department DV2346 (AZ) Pinal County AI1916 (AZ) City of Mesa CY1228 (US) US Soil Erosion Service FS1052 (US) US Navy HJ0218 (CO) ATSFRR KK1538 (CO) County and City of Denver KL0833 (US) US Water and Power Resource Service LX0844 (CT) City of Bridgeport LX1639 (CT) City of Meriden LX3190 (CT) Connecticut Department of Transportation HV1407 (DC) Washington Naval Yard AD8472 (FL) ADR Geodetic Services AI5517 (FL) Berryman & Henigar AD8751 (FL) Bannerman Surveyors Incorporated AA8886 (FL) Baskerville Donovan Incorporated AK7519 (FL) Duda Lands Incorporated AC3351 (FL) E R Brownell and Assoc. Inc. AG9464 (FL) Charlotte County AB5358 (FL) Lake County AG9472 (FL) Lee County AG9120 (FL) Manatee County AB2495 (FL) Martin County BG5060 (FL) Okaloosa County AA8143 (FL) Putnam County AA7668 (FL) St. Lucie County AA8873 (FL) Santa Rosa County AE6446 (FL) Central South Florida Flood control District AH8810 (FL) Florida Dept. of Environmental Protection AL7950 (FL) Genesis Surveying Incorporated AA8037 (FL) Geobase Control Incorporated AA8023 (FL) Hollingsworth and Associates Incorporated AB2520 (FL) Okeechobee County Property Appraisers AI5524 (FL) George F Young Incorporated AB6363 (GA) Atlanta Airport Engineers AI6875 (GA) City of Atlanta Department of Public Works CK0028 (GA) Georgia Geodetic Survey EE1881 (GA) Georgia Highway Department DE2410 (GA) Georgia Power Company AI8598 (GA) GA-SC State Boundary RM AA2775 (GA) Mercer University HARN station AF8804 (GA) Southern College of Technology AA3587 (US) NASA NM0141 (IA) Iowa Geodetic Survey AE8059 (IA) Iowa Highway Department AE2150 (IA) Mitchell Jones & Harden Incorporated OY1322 (IA) Atomic Energy Commission NT0336 (IA) Bureau of Public Roads RZ0930 (IA) Idaho Department of Transportation AB2602 (IL) Du Page County NH0919 (IL) USGS Mid-Continent Mapping Center ME2130 (IN) Indiana Flood Control and Water Res. Comm. KA0654 (IN) New York Central Railroad (?) KA1106 (IN) Pennsylvania Railroad HA1055 (US) U.S. Weather Bureau (found, not photoed) KS0868 (KS) City of Topeka Engineering Department KG0477 (KS) Kansas Department of Transportation KF0640 (KS) Kansas State University (found, not photoed) AI9032 (KY) GRW Aerial Surveys GY3375 (KY) Kentucky Department of Transportation GZ1222 (KY) Southern Railroad AH6253 (LA) Gulf South Engineers AA1845 (LA) Calcasieu Parish MPC Project AA3479 (LA) City of Bossier (found, not photoed) AT0802 (LA) St. Bernard Parish AU3418 (LA) St. Mary's Parish AU1024 (LA) City of New Orleans AT1379 (LA) LA Dept. of Highways Geodetic Survey AH6531 (LA) LA Dept. of Public Works AI5533 (MA) Massachusetts Port Authority AI6311 (MD) Allegany County JV2191 (US) National Bureau of Standards (found, not photoed) PE0486 (ME) City of Bangor (found, not photoed) AA6779 (MI) Wayne County (found, not photoed) NG0773 (MI) State of Michigan Airport Reference Mark PQ1494 (MN) City of Hutchinson PQ0525 (MN) City of Granite Falls QO2378 (MN) City of Minneapolis AE8889 (MN) MNDOT Azimuth Mark QO2438 (MN) MNDOT Reference Mark (already photoed) TC1260 (MN) Wallace ASsociates CP3460 (MS) Mississippi Dept. of Environmental Quality DJ1659 (MS) Mississippi State University FZ2121 (NC) Moore Gardner Associates AH7148 (NC) City of Kingston LG0404 (NE) Chicago Burlington and Quincy Railroad (destroyed?) MM0219 (NE) Union Pacific Railroad AH8872 (NH) New Hampshire Air National Guard KV7019 (NJ) Brick Township (found, not photoed) GS0732 (US) Atomic Energy Commission PG1245 (US) Canadian Survey of Canada OE1810 (NY) Fulton County NA1990 (NY) Fulton-Saratoga County Line KU4545 (NY) Nassau County Azimuth Mark KU4547 (NY) Nassau County MZ2627 (NY) Saratoga County Geodetic Survey KZ0580 (OH) Akron, Canton and Youngstown Railroad KY3587 (OH) American Electric Power Survey C LA2582 (OH) Licking County (found, not photoed) KY1681 (OH) Stark County (found, not photoed) AI8051 (OH) Warren County JZ2921 (OH) City of Dayton AA6883 (OH) City of Kent (found, not photoed) AC6880 (OH) City of St. Clairsville (found, not photoed) HY1924 (OH) Ohio Geodetic Survey KY3589 (OH) Ohio Power Company JZ2906 (OH) Army Air Corps JZ2907 (OH) US Air Force Grid disk KZ2046 (OH) US Air Force Survey Squadron AI1990 (OR) Benton County RD0263 (OR) Clackamas County NZ0950 (OR) Jackson County AI2003 (OR) Pacific Survey of Medford AE1706 (OR) Lane County (found, no photo) QE1421 (US) U.S. Coast Guard AJ5396 (SC) Enfinger and Associates PA CJ0629 (SC) E.S.P. Inc. AI8600 (SC) Georgia South Carolina Boundary Mark DE8424 (SC) North Carolina-South Carolina State Boundary Line AJ6737 (SC) South Carolina Department of Transportation EC3068 (SC) South Carolina Electric & Gas DE2028 (SC) South Carolina Power Authority AA4247 (SC) SC Society of Registered Land Surveyors AJ2669 (TN) City of Memphis FE0752 (TN) Tennessee Department of Geology AE8140 (TX) Texas Aeronautics Commission LO1153 (UT) City of Provo (found, not photoed) AA9436 (VA) Geometrics GPS, Inc. HV4934 (VA) Maryland-Virginia Boundary Commission AH8996 (VA) Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority GW2749 (VA) Campbell County FY4395 (VA) City of Danville GV6133 (VA) James City County HW0820 (VA) Virginia Department of Highways AE6516 (VT) Appalachian National Scenic Trail Survey AH3593 (VT) Central Vermont Public Service Corporation SX1652 (WA) Exhibit G SW1700 (WA) Douglas County Engineer SX1638 (WA) Douglas County TP1439 (WA) Erlandsen and Associates DH3810 (WA) Foresight Surveying Inc. RC0737 (WA) Pacific Power & Light SB1220 (WA) Yakima County AA5916 (WA) Washington Department of Natural Resources DF6123 (WI) Calumet County DH5566 (WI) Columbia County AI5999 (WI) Dane County AC9048 (WI) Dunn County AF9971 (WI) Price County HW3677 (WV) BSC Group, Inc. PX0024 (WY) Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad AA2121 (US) National Weather Service AC5594 (WY) Wyoming Highway Department Possible new agency, no photo: NF1752 (MI) MIDH Az Mk AB5898 (MN) Crow Wing County? KV6645 (NJ) Railroad Baseline? JZ0428 (OH) Baltimore and Ohio Railroad? JY1902 (OH) Columbus Southern Power Company MC0448 (OH) City of Tiffin EM1084 (US) US Army Range? GV6061 (VA) Newport News Water Works? PG0110 (VT) Delaware and Hudson Railroad SY3078 (WA) Washington Geodetic Survey? AB8460 (WA) Burnett County Agencies in NGS, not Geocaching: most counties in Minnesota DF7517 (MO) City of St. Charles DF8041 (NC) City of Concord counties in NC DE7803 (NY) Town of Amherst counties in OR a number in Puerto Rico counties in SC AJ5768 (SC) University of South Carolina DG7708 (TN) Nashville Airport Authority AJ6952 (TX) Southwest Texas State University AA3140 (TX) City of Arlington (cool pic) AA2679 (VA) County of Arlington AJ4475 (VA) City of Lynchburg DG6614 (VA) Spotsylvania County AJ5521 (VA) Stafford County DH3744 (WA) 3001, Inc. DH5625 (WI) Green Lake County DF9612 (WI) Jefferson County DH5692 (WI) Juneau County other Wisconsin counties Edited January 5, 2006 by BuckBrooke Quote Link to comment
chex_28 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 Hi Can anyone tell me what type of marker this is? Not desirable I would think, since it has no real information on it... Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Since one of the professionals in the crowd hasn't answered this one, I'll take a crack at it. It looks like a temporary marker put down by the USGS for a local surveying project. There's probably a USGS marker in the nearby area, or something that they were measuring. You're right, it doesn't have much significance to someone not associated with the USGS, or even from the team that put it down, and you won't be able to report it anywhere. Quote Link to comment
chex_28 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Thank you for replying! Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Here's a few more agencies, from the gallery: MB1970 (PA) Pennsylvania Coordinate System (interesting disc) FZ2090 (NC) North Carolina Geodetic Survey [Type V] RY0078 (US) Public Roads Administration QD1837 (OR) Deschutes County Bad photo: FY1920 (NC) North Carolina Geodetic Survey [Type ??] Wrong PID, new agency: SY1856 (US) US Geological Survey Reference mark MF1425 (IL) Illinois State Survey pipe cap (beaten up) FO0108 (US) Los Alamos National Labs FO0899 (US) US Department of Interior National Park Service Quote Link to comment
+Klemmer Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Here's one (DX5124) I found several years ago that is different than the US Corps of Engineers (US Army) ones that are on on Buckner's master Master Agency List. Anyone know what a "Harriman Index No" is? There is a box on the disc for one, but no number filled in. Disc is from 1939. Index system unique to the Corps of Engineers? Used prior to establishment of the PID system? By the way, a very nice 5+ mile hike, to a great, fully preserved (or ready for use?) Fire Lookout Station. These are now rare in this area (Southern California). Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 (edited) Looking through the galleries, here are a dozen disks: CZ0084 (US) USC&GS [Type II] MY0603 (US) USC&GS [Type III] KW3039 (US) USC&GS Reference Mark DJ1804 (US) USC&GS Reference Mark [Type II] QC0109 (OR) Oregon State Highway Department [Type IV] variant of Type III FO0979 (US) US Geological Survey - Azimuth mark KV1108 (NJ) NJ Department of Conservation and Development [Type II] DE1729 (US) NGS Azimuth station [Type II] variation AI7118 (SC) South Carolina Department of Transportation LL0114 (US) USC&GS Triangulation station MC1757 (OH) Lucas County Engineer CY0882 (US) US Soil Erosion Service Better photo: USGS gaging station, Zhanna's chocolate BM page Edited January 25, 2006 by BuckBrooke Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 (edited) Found looking through the galleries, and general searching: LX2948 (CT) Connecticut Department of Transportation HV2188 (DC) District of Columbia Department of Highways and Traffic AK7524 (FL) Brevard County Survey (rod) DX4296 (US) *US Forest Service DV1090 (AZ) Arizona Highway Department [Type II] AG7677 (FL) ( Manatee County GH0713 (OK) Oklahoma State University KR0729 (NV) Nevada Highway Department [Type III] KS2013 (CA) California Dept. of Transportation [Type IV] Found going through Waymarking (quite a few): (US) Department of the Interior - National Park Service [Type II] disk (US) Department of the Interior - National Park Service [Type III] disk (CA) California Department of Public Works disk (US) USGS Gaging Station - variant disk (IN) Indiana Department of Natural Resources - Division of Water disk (CA) City of Los Angeles - Engineering disk (VA) Spotsylvania County disk (VA) City of Lynchburg disk (US) U.S.E.D. Vicksburg District - Pipecap disk (TX) City of Greenville disk (US) Dept. of Interior - BLM [Type II]- Pipecap disk (CA) Contra Costa County disk (US) USGS In Cooperation With [Type IV] disk (US) ( U.S.E.D. Philadelphia disk (VA) Arlington County disk (CA) California Dept. of Parks and Recreation disk (CA) Contra Costa County [Type II] disk (US) US Dept. of Agriculture - Forest Service [Type IV] disk Edited January 30, 2006 by BuckBrooke Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Ok. In the continued quest, I was trying to find all of the NGS and C&GS disks in the diagram Dustyjacket has on the website. These are new for the agency list: EV3371 (CA) California Department of Water Resources JG0346 (US) USGS - Topographic station AF6098 (US) USGS - Traverse station AA2869 (FL) NGS - Horizontal station I am trying to find all of the C&GS and NGS marks in these two diagrams: C&GS and NGS So far, I have been unable to find an example of a C&GS circular gravity station (labelled 9 in the first picture). There are examples of the rest of the C&GS stations. Of the NGS disks, I have been unable to find an example of the right column middle (reference mark w/ odd arrow) and bottom (calibration station w/out cross in middle) disks. Has anyone run across these? Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Various searchings: SA2281 (US) US Army Engineers AI6872 (GA) Dekalb County Public Water and Sewer EE2137 (GA) Georgia State Highway Department DG3184 (GA) ( ... ... of Surveys ... (?) HS3568 (CA) City of Concord AE3348 (OH) **City of Dayton Quote Link to comment
+Shorelander Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 (edited) As a relative n00b, I found this benchmark, not in the NGS database, while walking around, so I waymarked it. Are you logo indexers taking BMs that aren't in the NGS realm? CA/T 891 SLer Edited February 6, 2006 by Shorelander Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Shorelander, Your disk (and any others that you have) is/are welcome, as a number of the disks in the list are not NGS PID stations, but their photo was logged with a nearby disk, or mistakenly instead of a nearby disk. Your disk is the first Waymarking US agency disk I've found. By contrast, most of the Canadian agency photos are from Waymarking. As a note, it's hard to make out the designation on the disk; do you have a shot that's zoomed in a bit? Here are a few more agencies, from emails and the gallery: Pointed out by DCJ TR1726 (US) US Engineer SY1052 (WA) Washington State Highway Department OX0402 (US) US Army Engineers - Azimuth station OY0107 (US) U.S. B.M. - Pipecap ?? OY0920 (US) Corps of Engineers Department of the Army - Triangulation station OX0750 (US) US General Land Office Survey - Reference station end of DCJ's agencies AK2715 (US) U.S. Engineer Dept. Harbor Survey (overrover) KW1084 (PA) Pennsylvania Highway Commission (cool disk) CK6458 (GA) Georgia Department of Transportation - Reference station EZ2785 (NC) N.C. Geodetic Survey - Triangulation station [Type II] EZ1375 (US) US Coast and Geodetic Survey - Triangulation station large (very cool disk) Quote Link to comment
mloser Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 KW1084 should probably be listed as a Penna Turnpike Commission disk and not a PADH disk, from the agency listed on the disk. That disk is pretty rare. I am pretty sure there are none east of that one, but didn't look west yet. At least none that are in the NGS datbase. I haven't stopped on the PA Turnpike and checked any bridge abutments to see if they have disks. Here is another variations on the PA Dept of Highways (PADH) disks I remember seeing: KW0535 has PSDH on it and the description says Pennsylvania State Department of Highways. Quote Link to comment
+Shorelander Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 As a note, it's hard to make out the designation on the disk; do you have a shot that's zoomed in a bit? You're in luck - I didn't have one, but I went back to the area to see if I could finally find some caches over there, and I picked up a much better photo. SLer Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 From random sources, mainly the gallery. EZ1115 (US) U.S. Geological Survey [Type II] EZ2151 (US) U.S. C&GS - Triangulation station variant AC6060 (US) National Ocean Service [Type III] GA0569 (TN) East Tennessee State University AI4393 (MD) City of Baltimore Department of Public Works QE1431 (OR) Oregon State Highway Division Quote Link to comment
+Shorelander Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I feel somewhat inadequate with just one disk to post, but oh well. One I found in Saugus and waymarked: Saugus/280 Central SLer Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) Shorelander, Got it. Here's a few more: Gallery: EW7512 (US) U.S. Department of Interior Bureau of Land Management Cadastral Survey - variant EW7512 (CA) Ventura County Surveyor [Type II] KT2308 (CA) California DOT - Spatial Reference Center JV6988 (MD) Maryland State Highway Administration - Triangulation station AI9371 (NJ) New Jersey Geodetic Control Survey [Type II] PF0591 (US) U.S. Department of Interior Geological Survey - Triangulation station variant Waymarking: WM7WP (US) U.S. Geological Survey - McMurdo Station, Antarctica WM7WB (US) *Department of Agriculture - Township Boundary corner WM7Q4 (NY) Monroe County Department of Engineers WM7PM (OR) ( Deschutes County Road Department WM7P9 (CA) (CA) California State University Fresno - 3 Dimensional Survey Control WM87B (NM) New Mexico Highway and Transportation Department WM87E (NM) New Mexico Highway Department Flickr (I ran across your photos as well, Geo*) link (NY) Rockland County Town Line Monument link (NY) Rockland County Engineer link(NY) Rockland - Orange County County line link (CA) California Dept. of Natural Resources - Parks Division link (US) US Navy Department - 12th Naval District, San Francisco, CA link (CA) San Mateo County link (CA) Chabot Space and Science Center link (CA) California Division of Highways - Triangulation station link (CA) ( California Dept. of Parks and Recreation - Triangulation station link (CA) University of California link (OK) Oklahoma Department of Highways (don't molest their benchmarks) link (DE) DOT Road Design link (CA) City of Santa Barbara Engineer link (OR) City of Redmond - Dep. of Public Works link Property Corner (unknown state) link (CA) California Dept. of Beaches and Parks link (CA) Alameda County Surveyor Random sites: link (OR) City of Salem link (MA) Massachusetts Institute of Technology link (US) Indian Allotment Edited March 1, 2006 by BuckBrooke Quote Link to comment
mloser Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I found a new disk the other day, in Berwyn, west of Philadelphia. The setting agency is the Philadelphia Electric Company, know as PECO. The disk is smaller than most and is stampled BER (for Berwyn) P.E. CO according to the datasheet. My pic is a bit too washed out from the flash to confirm the exact stamping. It seems PECO set a number of stations in the area. There is a PECO facility just down the road, but I think the main office is in center city Phila. KV3755 BER PHELCO 1974 Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 (edited) mloser, I added the Philadelphia Elec. Co. station. Here are a few more, from the weekend's photo gallery entries, CallawayMT's recoveries (still have to do the most recent half) and Waymarking. The way I've done variants is becoming cumbersome; I'm going to redo it slightly to compact the list. PY1274 (US) USGS National Center for Earthquake Research KY1265 (US) USGS - Ohio AA4380 (US) USC&GS - Topographic station AA3140 (TX) City of Arlington (US) Yosemite National Park http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Land_S...#External_links CW0194 (US) US Boundary Commission - New Mexico/Texas RD4312 (WA) Clark County [Type II] AD9536 (CA) City of Corona AI1886 (PA) Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission TU1337 (HI) Hawaii State Survey TU0299 (HI) State of Hawaii [Type II] TK0270 (US) US Geological Survey - Corner station JM0570 (US) US C&GS - Triangulation station variant [Type II] HO0633 (US) US C&GS - Triangulation station variant [Type III] AA2136 (US) US Dept. of Int. - BLM Cadastral Survey [Type II] HN0792 (UT) Utah - Arizona Boundary JM0248 (UT) Utah State Highway Department - Right of Way station RY0086 (MT) Federal Works Agency - Public Roads Administration HZ1544 (US) US C&GS - Commonwealth of Kentucky AD9256 (US) (US) U.S. Department of Interior Bureau of Land Management Cadastral Survey - 4 Corners (AZ UT CO NM) RX0017 (US) U.S. General Land Office Survey - variant [Type II] SS1446 (US) US Engineer's Office Seattle Washington HT2254 (US) U.S. Dept. of Interior National Park Service RX0664 (MT) Montana Department of Transportation RY0067 (US) US Dept. of Agriculture - Bureau of Public Roads Highway Route QX0641 (US) US Land Office (GLO, also the MT Initial Point) RY0108 (US) U.S. Geological Survey Cooperation with the State - variant HS5373 (CA) California Dept. of Water Resources KS1194 (US) U.S. Coast & Geodetic Survey [Type II] variant KS1207 (US) U.S. Coast & Geodetic Survey [Type II] variant [Type II] NZ0963 (OR) Oregon State Highway Department [Type III] variant [Type II] PY1074 (US) Federal Works Agency - Public Roads Administration - Highway Route PY1038 (US) Bureau of Public Roads<br> SS1554 (US) Missouri River Commission [Type II] SS0544 (US) U.S. Department of Interior Geological Survey - Flood Mark NZ1031 (US) U.S. Department of Agriculture Bureau of Public Roads variant RY1014 (US) U.S. Department of Interior Bureau of Land Management [Type III] RY1015 (US) U.S. Department of Interior Bureau of Land Management [Type IV] WM8YJ (MA) County of Barnstable (cool disk) WM8T5 (US) U.S. General Land Office Survey - variant [Type III]<br> WM8KV (VA) Amelia & Nottoway Counties Boundary WM8JW (WA) Land Surveyors Association of Washington<br> Edited March 15, 2006 by BuckBrooke Quote Link to comment
+Shorelander Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I'll throw in AJ2481, a Village of Skokie mark, that I found. It seems to be part of a series of control marks that Skokie set in 2000 - time to collect them all! Although maybe I should be careful about that one near the courthouse... Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) From finishing up CallawayMT's logs, and various other sources: RD3152 (OR) Willamette Meridian Initial Point RX0392 (US) U.S. Coast & Geodetic Survey - pipe cap KN0030 (US) U.S. and Canada Border Survey TJ0070 (US) Corps of Engineers - U.S. Army - Map Control station SV1180 (US) USGS Washington Idaho Boundary Line EQ0191 (NM) Middle Rio Grande Conservancy District AB4251 (GA) Dekalb County [Type II] DE2502 (SC) Aiken County AI5137 (GA) Cobb County AE9870 (US) U.S. Department of the Interior Bureau of Reclamation - Vertical GPS Project Delta USNOOH (US) U.S. Naval Oceanographic Office - Hydrographic station (disk in Honduras) KR1810 (NV) Nevada Highway Department [Type III] (although it's kind of a variant of Type II) OG0150 (US) US Lake Survey - Reference station WM91C (TX) Texas Department of Transportation WM91E (TX) Texas Department of Transportation - Right of Way triangulation station Edited March 17, 2006 by BuckBrooke Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 From various sources: LX2491 (NY) Westchester County (half a disk) RD2085 (OR) Oregon State Highway Department - Triangulation station JV6938 (MD) Maryland State Highway Administration - variant PG2524 (US) ( U.S. and Canada Border Survey - Horizontal station EV2593 (US) U.S. Geological Survey in Cooperation with Los Angeles County CE0660 (US) The Supreme Court of the United States - New Mexico Texas Border CX1839 (NM) New Mexico Department of Transportation PL0604 (US) National Ocean Service [Type II] variant (NY) New York City Department of Water Supply QK0924 (MI) Michigan DOT [Type II] variant AC9043 (WI) Polk County PN1267 (WI) Wisconsin Division of Highways PN1278 (WI) Wisconsin Department of Transportation [Type IV] AB8461 (WI) Burnett County OM1377 (WI) Dodge County WM943 (VA) Petersburg Military Park Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 The weekly update: Delaware Department of Transportation http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmahaffie/110...pool-benchmark/ Appalachian National Scenic Trail http://www.flickr.com/photos/cottergarage/7833610/ KU1296 NYBOEA (NY) New York City Board of Estimate and Apportionment DX0096 (CA) Riverside County AE9857 (US) U.S. Department of the Interior Bureau of Reclamation - Vertical GPS Project Delta variant AI5053 (CA) Yolo County Subsidence Network JC0574 (US) Illinois River Commission JZ3561 (OH) City of Cincinnati [Type II] variant KV1455 (US) U.S. Geological Survey in Cooperation with the State of Pennsylvania AH7006 (US) Corps of Engineers - U.S. Army [Type III] Quote Link to comment
Papa-Bear-NYC Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 (edited) The weekly update: Delaware Department of Transportation http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmahaffie/110...pool-benchmark/ Appalachian National Scenic Trail http://www.flickr.com/photos/cottergarage/7833610/ KU1296 NYBOEA (NY) New York City Board of Estimate and Apportionment DX0096 (CA) Riverside County AE9857 (US) U.S. Department of the Interior Bureau of Reclamation - Vertical GPS Project Delta variant AI5053 (CA) Yolo County Subsidence Network JC0574 (US) Illinois River Commission JZ3561 (OH) City of Cincinnati [Type II] variant KV1455 (US) U.S. Geological Survey in Cooperation with the State of Pennsylvania AH7006 (US) Corps of Engineers - U.S. Army [Type III] Buck The acronym for "New York City Board of Estimate and Apportionment" is "NYBE+A". See for example KU0874 and many similar ones where they are the monumenting agency. And of course that was a note where I mention this nearby non-NGS mark. KU1296 is actually a plain old CGS disk. It's actually a duplicate, but this is a better picture. It's the same disk as you have for for the Staten Island Borough Hall (KV0422 "142 NYBE+A"). There you have "Appraisal" - it's the same agency. It's "Apportionment", not "Apraisal". Regards Papa Bear Edited March 28, 2006 by Papa-Bear-NYC Quote Link to comment
Papa-Bear-NYC Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 (edited) I thought these were already in the list but I can't find them so I'll put them in here. If you find they are in here somewhere, perhaps with a different name, sorry. These are 4 different IBC Geodetic marks from the border between Maine and Canada. Since the IBC set their monuments at different sections of the border, I guessing there is a "local" style or perhaps it was a matter of when, not where. But these are certainly different from what you will see in the mid-west or Alaska. As for Mexico, I have no idea. 1) QH0376 IBC Boundary Monument (Maine 1845) (click for full size) 2) QH0376 (non NGS mark nearby) IBC Intermediate Boundary Marker (Maine) These are set about every .1 miles between the monuments. I think this is similar to marks in many locales, but perhaps not with the monument number and increment number on the disk as in these. (click for full size) 3) QH0376 (non NGS mark nearby) IBC Bench Mark (Maine) This was mounted on the base of the monument, and you will also see them on topos since the IBC provided the control for the USGS in these regions. I haven't found any of these in the NGS database, but there may be some in there. (click for full size) 4) QH0256 IBC Triangulation Station Mark (Maine 1915) (click for full size) Regards Papa Bear Edited March 29, 2006 by Papa-Bear-NYC Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 (edited) Papa-Bear, yours are in. Here are a few more, from the usual sources: KU0914 (US) US Engineers Department [Type III] - earlier version TR1737 (US) Corps of Engineers US Army [Type IV] NF0303 (MI) Grand Trunk Western Railroad TU0100 (US) U.S. Geological Survey in Cooperation with the State of Hawaii MB1516 (OH) Cleveland Regional Geodetic Survey GV0499 (VA) City of Williamsburg JV2893 (DC) Washington Suburban Sanitation Commission [Type II] HV9697 (VA) Virginia Department of Transportation AL6258 (FL) *Hillsborough County Survey Division GA0207 (TN) Tennessee Department of Transportation [Type II] WM9T9 (IL) Metropolitan Sanitary District of Greater Chicago WM9T8 (MA) Town of Rockport We're up to a total of 700 types of disks, +- a few. That doesn't include variants, but there are a few variants that need to be collapsed in the list, so the total should be a few less. The number of distinct agencies is probably in the high 500s. Edited April 4, 2006 by BuckBrooke Quote Link to comment
Difficult Run Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 HV2294 - USDI NPS Interesting to see the last digit stamped "sideways" Quote Link to comment
Papa-Bear-NYC Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 (edited) New York City Board of Estimate and Apportionment I was looking over BuckBrooke's web site the other day and I noticed he had included a copper bolt from one of my recent posts set by the above agency in the city-wide survey done in 1909-1914. Having interest in these marks (I'm trying to find all that are left), I thought I would add a few items here. This survey used many, many chiseled squares and crosses and they also "borrowed' a good number of previously set marks from other agencies, primarily the Board of Water Supply and the Department of Public Works. Of those marks (other than chiseled marks) that were of their own, as far as I can determine there were 1 type of disk 4 types of copper bolts and 1 special galvanized iron bracket (see below). The information is available in great detail in the volume Precise leveling in New York City by Frederick W. Koop, published in 1914 and available in the NY Public Library. The disk has already been documented on this list (see the note for KU1296). Here is some info on the others. Copper bolts: Here is the original figure detailing copper bolts: There ar 2 long types (3" x 7/8") and 2 short types (2" x 5/8"). The long types have the letters "B M" embossed, and the short types do not. The ones with the horizontal bar were set in a vertical surface (as on a wall) and the bar was the actual bench mark and the ones with the dot were set on a horizontal surface (as on a step) and I suppose the pole was placed on the dot. Here are samples. Sorry about the small bolts with a dot, I have only a couple of (poor) shots of that type. Long type with bar (NYBE+A #748, an NGS mark KV0579 on the Custom House in lower Manhattan): Long type with dot (NYBE+A #387, non-NGS mark near KU1296 set on a structure in Prospect Park, Brooklyn): Short type with bar (NYBE+A #469, a non-NGS mark near KU1043 on the Williamsburg Bridge, Brooklyn): Short type with dot (NYBE+A #488 on an old YMCA building near the Williamsburg Bridge): Galvanized iron bracket This was specifically designed by Mr. Koop and was used in the granite base of school buildings. There was almost always a chiseled mark above the bracket. The shape of the bracket is unique in that it sit on and overlaps the vertical surface and providesa a very stable base. Here's the diagram: and here's a sample, NYBE+A #847, a non-NGS mark near KU1421 on PS 158 in Manhattan (Note the chiseled 'T' above): Regards Papa Bear Edited April 6, 2006 by Papa-Bear-NYC Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Okay, this one does not have a PID, but I've never seen one before... Riparian Stream & Waterway Survey, State of New Jersey, Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Harry, I put yours on the list. Here's a few more from the galleries and Waymarking. I think additions to the list are starting to slow down, but it's by no means a trickle yet. MZ3110 (VT) State of Vermont [Type II] AD7827 (FL) South Florida Water Management District [Type II] WMAK1 (OH) Hamilton County WMAJA (OH) Hamilton County - Azimuth station WMAJC (OH) Ohio Department of Transportation - Woolpert Inc. WMA8E (MD) City of Annapolis LF0150 (MO) Northwest Missouri State University DX3211 (CA) Orange County Surveyor JD2095 (MO) Missouri Department of Natural Resources SY5680 (OR) City of Bellevue KV0123 (US) US Engineer Dept. - H.L. station JE2012 (KS) Johnson County - Section Corner PC0324 (OR) Douglas County [Type II] SG0170 (US) National Ocean Survey [Type III] FF0489 (TN) City of Memphis - Zero Mileston GL1435 (US) US General Land Office, variant, 1930s HS4092 (CA) Alameda County Surveyor - Triangulation station [Type II] SB1213 (WA) Yakima County AA8209 (US) *U.S. Forest Service [Type II] RD3067 (OR) **Multnomah County Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) A fair mix in this batch; some PIDs, some waymarks and some flickr disks. Also, a good mix of national, state, local and private agencies. HZ1252 (KY) Kentucky Department of Highways - USCG&S - Triangulation station HZ1251 (KY) Kentucky Department of Highways - USCG&S - Reference station LY2898 (NY) Ducks Unlimited LY2898 (US) Department of Interior - Fish and Wildlife Service WMAWV (CA) *East Bay Municipal Utility District WMAWV (CA) *East Bay Municipal Utility District - Reference station DX2942 (CA) Metropolitan Water District of Southern California [Type III] HU1478 (US) U.S. Coast Guard HS4664 (CA) City of Stockton WMB0V (FL) Okaloosa County WMAZY (KY) Kentucky Transportation Cabinet (CA) San Francisco Water Department disk (DE) Delaware Department of Transportation (DELDOT) - Southern District disk (CA) Los Angeles County Survey Control System [Type II] disk WMB8R (NM) Recreational Equipment, Inc. (REI) cool disk Also, an American disk in Canada: WMAKQ (CA-ON) NASA - GFSC Field Facilities Branch That's NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center at a tracking station in Canada Edited April 25, 2006 by BuckBrooke Quote Link to comment
Papa-Bear-NYC Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Here's one I found yesterday at the end of Throgs Neck in the Bronx NY. There is an old stone fort there (Fort Schuyler) and there used to be a lighthouse. It ws one of the triangulation stations in the 1903 triangulation of Greater NY. There are two marks just south of the fort, set by the USLHS (United States Light House Service). One is decapitated but the other one is intact. I don't know when they were set. I can read "193." or "194." on the disk. They were reused in 1952 by the USC&GS. The one that's intact is "A 340". Interestingly, the other one is (would have been) "Z 339". So it was the end of one level ine and the start of another at this point. Here's the good one (KU0984 "A 340 USLHS") Here's a close up (sorry for the fuzzy shot) The other one is just a stem. Looks like the disk and some of the concrete post was sheared off, perhaps by some mowing or landscaping machinery. (KU0985 "Z 339 USLHS") Quote Link to comment
+Organized Chaos Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 I found this disk while searching for EH1385. It has the same lat/lon as the one I was looking for but does not look like the others I have found. ( Link to EH1380 that I found ) the ones I have found have the correct "Designation" stamped on them, where this one does not have the stamp T 115 like it should. I can't seem to find any info on this disk. And was wondering if any of you could help me out and tell me where I can get info on this disk? It seems to be close to the measurements described by the Coast & Geodetic survey. I have not taken a tape measure out and did exact measurements on it yet. I was just wondering if this could the benchmark, or it was replaced by this one? Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 I think it's a random, nearby disk, not connected with EH1385. Perhaps that's a good spot for a disk. This is a US Engineer Department disk (obviously), and they don't have their disks online or in a readily accessible database, even if they have them organized. Odds are you won't find any info. It's probably associated with nearby construction, like a dam, bridge, etc. Sorry about that. It is a new variant on the US Engineer Department disks; I haven't seen one from the Memphis office before. Quote Link to comment
+Organized Chaos Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Thanks for the info Buck! There is a bridge a few miles north of this marker. And state Hwy a few hundred yards or so north of it. So possibly it was placed here at the construction times of one of these. I am guessing it has something 2 do with the bridge construction. I worked in road construction for 10 years and have never saw a marker like this one. I have seen several benchmarks placed on older bridges. It also got me to wondering how common it is for a disk like this from one city and state to be placed in another city and state? This one is obviously from Memphis, TN and it is in a small town in AR. Quote Link to comment
Papa-Bear-NYC Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 I found this yesterday at Fort Totten, Queens NY. The place is an old army base dating from the 19th century. KU0978 "851 6990 TIDAL 4" This disk was surveyed as a Tidal Bench Mark in 1952, but clearly it was monumented for something else by the Corps of Engineers. (click for full size image) I never saw a "Map Control Station" before. Has anyone seen that designation used? I assume it's some kind of horizontal control, but since maps also give elevation, maybe it was a bench mark for controlling a map's elevation data. It has neither the cross usually found on a bench mark, nor the triangle used on triangulation stations. Anyone know? Quote Link to comment
+Firefighter Skippy Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 2oldfarts asked me to include this mark to the list . It's LX0507. Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 (edited) Aha. For once, I have 3 answers for three questions. Maybe it's the fact we're buying a house and I won't be able to benchmark for a while, but I feel confident...*drum roll*... In reverse order: 1) Firefighter Skippy, you found one of the US Geological Survey "in Cooperation with the state of" series. During the Great Depression, and shortly thereafter, the USGS did many survey projects with various states. Looking through the photo logs, it seems like they usually used a generic "In cooperation with the state" mark, such as HW0004. However, folks have photographed the variants of "in cooperation with the state of" Connecticut, Hawaii, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Los Angeles County. Links are available here. Your photo is somewhat better than the current Connecticut photo; may I use it for that page? 2) Papa-Bear, it seems like the circle mark (w/ variation such as the circle w/ a dot, cross in a circle, line in a circle, etc.) is the symbol for a tidal or gaging station, such as the USGS: SX1518 . The USC&GS and National Ocean Service also use the circle (w/ a line and a cross inset respectively) for tidal gaging stations. However, you're on top of surveying more than I, so... Hmm, maybe I was wrong. Looking back through the list, here's a similar disk found by CallawayMT in MT: TJ0070. Maybe there's no significance to the circle. *drumming fingers* 3) Organized Chaos, the U.S. Engineer offices are regional, so that you're inside the Memphis office's district. Other than the occasional cross-state boundary mark (such as those found by PFF et. al.) by a state surveying office, the only specifically different city/state disks I've run across photos of are the U.S. Engineer district offices. Edited May 8, 2006 by BuckBrooke Quote Link to comment
Papa-Bear-NYC Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Aha. For once, I have 3 answers for three questions. ... 2) Papa-Bear, it seems like the circle mark (w/ variation such as the circle w/ a dot, cross in a circle, line in a circle, etc.) is the symbol for a tidal or gaging station, such as the USGS: SX1518 . The USC&GS and National Ocean Service also use the circle (w/ a line and a cross inset respectively) for tidal gaging stations. However, you're on top of surveying more than I, so... Hmm, maybe I was wrong. Looking back through the list, here's a similar disk found by CallawayMT in MT: TJ0070. Maybe there's no significance to the circle. *drumming fingers* ... Thanks BuckBrooke Now this makes more sense since this is a tidal bench mark. I had assumed the CGS in 1952 had just used an old USE mark when they did their surevey, but now it sounds like the Army had already used it for the same purpose. As for that station in Montana, it looks like it's on a huge impoundment of the Missouri River and rather near the Fort Peck Dam, so it may be some kind of guaging station after all. Have fun with your new house. Quote Link to comment
+Firefighter Skippy Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 1) Firefighter Skippy, you found one of the US Geological Survey "in Cooperation with the state of" series. states. Your photo is somewhat better than the current Connecticut photo; may I use it for that page? Be my guest. Quote Link to comment
Bill93 Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 MG0529 (IA) University of Iowa AE9189 (US) Corps of Engineers Rock Island District (district is cast not stamped?) Quote Link to comment
+Intermountain Angler Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 (edited) BuckBrooke, RZ0930 is in Idaho not Iowa looks like you had a typo BTW i have added a photo for this disk. I cannot seem to link to your page. Edited June 17, 2006 by Intermountain Angler Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 Sorry about the delays; my wife and I have bought a house and we're in the midst of moving. I've a list of new agencies picked up through the photo galleries to update; I'll include ya'lls and update soon. Quote Link to comment
+Mystery Ink Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 AT&T have been putting these Benchmarks as routes for Fiber out not listed as far as I know. Quote Link to comment
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