+treasure_hunter Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 I was wondering, someone told me you could log your own caches that you hide? I dont know how true it is but I was wondering if someone could explain the situation to me. Thank you Quote Link to comment
+larsl Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 I don't know if you _can_, I've never tried - but it seems like a very silly thing to do, if you're not deliberately trying to inflate your stats. It's not like you have to "find" the cache - if you placed it you know exactly where it is. For events it may be different, but I still don't think that I would log an event that I had arranged (although I don't think that I'd ever arrange an event either). I'm assuming that by "log" you mean "log as found" and not just "post a note". Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Check this thread and this thread. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 The site lets you do that. There are a lot of reasons to log your own cache. Posting a note about maintanence, can't find your cache because some dweeb moved it etc. Logging a find on your own cache though is bad form. But form the discussions posted you can see there is debate over that as well. Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 The site software will allow you to post a Found It log to your own cache, yes. Is it acceptable to do so in most cases, no. Quote Link to comment
+radioscout Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 I haven't logged my own caches but I think it is a good idea because it falsifies this useless ranking lists. Quote Link to comment
+NightPilot Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 It's certainly possible, and I know of one or two here who do it now and then, out of ignorance I think. He posted a found it log when he did some cache maintenance after a lot of complaints about his cache. It's not something I would do, but it's certainly possible. Quote Link to comment
+Team Perks Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 It's easy to accidentally do. I have a habit of posting finds instead of notes on my own caches (as well as others') from time to time. (Course, I'm quick to correct it as soon as I realize I've done it. The thought of being labeled a numbers-padder terrifies me.) Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 possible and ridiculous. Quote Link to comment
+SixDogTeam Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Not only that, but we've seen people log event caches as a find, and the log states, "sorry I couldn't make it"... Quote Link to comment
+AuntieWeasel Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Please don't be embarrassed for asking the question, though. I can envision a universe in which people log a find on their own caches as a matter of course. Sometimes the rules are only obvious when they've been hashed out a thousand times Quote Link to comment
+radioscout Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Someone logged one of his own caches as found because the old hiding place became unusable and a cacher who found it searched a new place for the cache and placed it there. The owner had to search for his own cache so why not logging this as a find? Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Someone logged one of his own caches as found because the old hiding place became unusable and a cacher who found it searched a new place for the cache and placed it there. The owner had to search for his own cache so why not logging this as a find? We as finders don’t go back and log finds on every cache that has moved, just because it moved. It would be ridiculous if we did. It doesn’t’ change for owners. Quote Link to comment
+Doggiewoggie Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Logging your own cache is so totally lame (I found it! Well... duh!) Quote Link to comment
+KG7JE Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Well, I could see a case... In fact, it almost happened to me. There was this abandoned cache that needed maitenance. Somebody found it and one that I was already maintaining for a 3rd party. They emailed me that this same 3rd paty had this other cache and could I work with the owner to maintain it. Turned out the owner wanted to pass ownership to me. I had to go find the cache in order to fix it up and take ownership. Ended up archiving it and setting a new cache in the same area. But, I did log the other one as a find. I had to find it!!! Now, should I as the new owner not log a find since I was not the one to hide it? This get's really complex real quick. Now, for the few other caches that I own, no. Wouldn't dream of logging them as a find. Oops. Forgot the first cache I found -- the one I was maintaining for the 3rd party. I own that cache now also. Maybe I should go back and remove my find. Wouldn't want to newbies to get the wrong idea. Quote Link to comment
+planetrobert Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 what about loging a find on your own MOVING cache?!? i keep thinking about doing this on an old one of mine. i have NO idea where it is right now. Quote Link to comment
+PoloTrackers Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 How bout I hide 1000 caches make it a multi and log it as 1 find! Quote Link to comment
markandlynn Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 We recently adopted a cache we had previously found when owned by someone else. We now show as having found our own cache. We were asked to adopt it as it is much closer to us (1mile) than the original cache owner. We would not however log the other caches we own as finds. Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 (edited) Yes, many people have pointed out some exceptions to the "not logging your own cache" expectation. I think the main idea really isn't about logging a find on a cache you own, it's more about logging a find on a cache you've hidden. Logging a find on a cache you've been asked to adopt, well, you've got to go find it if you haven't already, right? A legitimate find. You started a moving cache and administer the cache, and maybe hid it the first time, but did you hide it the last time it was moved? No? You find it and that should count, too. You are asked to watch over a cache placed by someone else, it's under your account, but you weren't with the person when it was hidden. You don't know exactly where it is. You go find it (a good idea BTW if your going to be the owner*) and it's a find. I'd say all of these are perfectly good examples of an owner finding one of his own caches. He didn't know exactly where it was, so he had to find it--log it as such. No, when someone hides your cache back in the right spot, not a find. I think the only argument is how far away from the proper hiding spot someone "replaces" the cache should it count as a find. I'd say if it's within acceptable error, then it's not a find. *We adopted a multi which had been changed after we found it. We didn't go and check on it like a good owner would. Well, it came up missing. It's embarrassing to ask a recent finder to check on a cache you are supposed to be looking over because you've never laid eyes on it. Edited October 14, 2004 by CoyoteRed Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 I think the main idea really isn't about logging a find on a cache you own, it's more about logging a find on a cache you've hidden. That is the point. Even if you don't own it, if you helped hide it logging a find would be cheesy. Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 I think the main idea really isn't about logging a find on a cache you own, it's more about logging a find on a cache you've hidden. That is the point. Even if you don't own it, if you helped hide it logging a find would be cheesy. ...and the reason you don't help a friend hide a cache! Just say "No." Quote Link to comment
thorin Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 I was wondering, someone told me you could log your own caches that you hide? I dont know how true it is but I was wondering if someone could explain the situation to me. Thank you You "can" but why would you? You hid it, you know where it is, you didn't "find" it you placed it where it is. Thorin Quote Link to comment
+junglehair Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Even if you don't own it, if you helped hide it logging a find would be cheesy. Oh, I've done that a couple of times. I'm co-owner on a few caches near me but they were not listed under my account. I've logged these caches online so that they don't keep coming up in my pocket queries for nearby caches that I haven't found. Quote Link to comment
+joefrog Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Event cache? yep, I found it. Locationless cache I adopted? Found it BEFORE adoption, but can't log finds afterwards. Regular/Micro/etc, ad nauseum? Nope -- I don't log my own caches, and that seems to be the popular protocol. Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 Even if you don't own it, if you helped hide it logging a find would be cheesy. Oh, I've done that a couple of times. I'm co-owner on a few caches near me but they were not listed under my account. I've logged these caches online so that they don't keep coming up in my pocket queries for nearby caches that I haven't found. I've done it as well. So have the vast majority of cachers that I've cached with. Until you can both get 'credit' for a hide one will hide and one will find. When you can get credit for a joint hide then people will start handling the situation differently. That you can put anyone you want on who hid the cache and have it show up that way isn't credit. Besides I've hidden a cache within 10' of the person helping me scout for a hide and it still took them 10 min to find the cache. I use them to help me assess the difficulty and other things. Quote Link to comment
+greende Posted October 14, 2004 Share Posted October 14, 2004 I think the main idea really isn't about logging a find on a cache you own, it's more about logging a find on a cache you've hidden. That is the point. Even if you don't own it, if you helped hide it logging a find would be cheesy. ...and the reason you don't help a friend hide a cache! Just say "No." Agreed Quote Link to comment
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