ChiefPig Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Hide them from first to last or do you backtrack and do it from last to first? Quote Link to comment
+Dodgermp Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I would say last to first, unless you have allready got the coordinates or all the caches you cant put the first on in place without have the coordinates to the last one. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Last to first is the easiest way. "You can't make a man by standing a sheep on his hind legs. But by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" - Max Beerbohm Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Last to First Two roads diverged in a wood, and I- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. Because now I am Lost. Quote Link to comment
Dru Morgan Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I'll offer a different solution. First to last... Twice. This way, I can gather the coords the first time, and then test them on the second time around. Ever notice how anyone that caches more than you do is a maniac, while anyone that caches less than you do is an idiot? -Dru Morgan Quote Link to comment
Pantalaimon Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I usually start somewhere in the middle... Just kidding. Technically, I've only created one multi-cache, and I went last to first. Although I certainly agree with Dru Morgan about double checking the accuracy. Pan Fact is that there is nothing out there you can't do, Yeah, even Santa Claus believes in you... Floyd of Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem, from "Can You Picture That?" Quote Link to comment
+ShaneN4Girls Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 On the only multi I have hidden so far, I spent about 2 hours in the area, finding and waypointing multiple hiding spots, and "mapping" the area. The area has a small creek, and I wanted to lay out the cache order in such a way that the "smart" cacher would only have to cross the creek twice, while the "fast" cacher will probably cross the creek three to four times. After I had an idea of possible hiding spots, I went back and worked out cache order from the hiding spots I had found. I'm in the process of setting up another multi, and am following the same method again. "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."- Jim Elliot Texas Geocaching Quote Link to comment
+Harrald Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 In this order Last to first First to last and again first to last I take waypoints on all three trips and average them together. _________________________________________________________________________ Nobody can be so amusingly arrogant as a young man who has just discovered an old idea and thinks it is his own. Sydney J. Harris Quote Link to comment
ChiefPig Posted October 17, 2003 Author Share Posted October 17, 2003 Ok, I decided on last to first and it took my entire lunch hour just to hide the last cache And I am not even sure I am totally happy where it ended up! Boy hiding is a lot more difficult than finding, that's for sure! Quote Link to comment
+EScout Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Also, enter all of the waypoints in a route. You can then check the distance, bearing from any of the waypoints to each other and the cachepoint. Quote Link to comment
cenobite07 Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I usually vist the area several times and mark likely locations. After I've found a good spot for the cache itself, I'll decide which intermediate points to use and in what order. That way I can direct where finders are traveling and help set the length. Hiding a quality cache is much harder than finding them. You could always just do the drive and drop route but I applaud the effort you're taking to make things a little more challenging and rewarding. I typically put 8 to 10 (or more) hours into mine - of course that's because i'm anal and there are usually a lot of ways to go off track on my multi's. I've got about 7 more in the works that I'll get around to finishing by spring. The walk 200 feet and find a gladware box full of wet paper caches are losing their shine for me. Geesh, I'm starting to sound like a cache snob already.... "We have such sites to show you..." Quote Link to comment
+Mark 42 Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I have sorta the opposite problem... The is an abundance of great places I know of from Hiking, Jogging & Hashing, but I haven't had time to acquire all of the containers, logs, contents, waypoints, etc. to actually place them. I'm starting to at least carry my GPS more and mark waypoints when I find a location that's ideal. But I'm a bit busy trying to find caches and keep up with chores & such. Quote Link to comment
ChiefPig Posted October 17, 2003 Author Share Posted October 17, 2003 Yeah, I have the opposite problem. Most of the trails I know, I know from mountain biking. And when you are mountain biking on single tracks, you kinda have to keep your eye ahead of you and on the trail just to make sure you don't plant yourself into a tree or onto the ground after hitting a big root or a fallen log. So even though I know the trails very well, I have to walk thru them to look for good hiding spots off the trail. Quote Link to comment
+Bilder Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 This Multi is the only one I have done. Planted the cache and then split the coords between a couple caches. Fun part is that they are all night only caches. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have never been lost. Been awful confused for a few days, but never lost! N61.12.041 W149.43.734 Quote Link to comment
evilrooster Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 End first, then back the way, taking about 15 - 20 minutes to get a "settled" reading. Revisit each point at least once more, and average the three results. Then I got a friend to try it out, while I followed behind and kept my mouth shut and let them work it out. evilrooster http://www.bookweb.sunpig.com -the email of the species is deadlier than the mail- Quote Link to comment
+Squealy Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 I have hidden one - and am planning at least another 2 in the near future. And to be honest I don't remember how the hell I did it. I had ideas for what I wanted the first the legs to be like - and I also knew the places I wanted to hide them - so I adapted my ideas to meet the places and then went from there (if that makes any sense). I know for one of my new ones, it is going to be in a preserve, so that will take some scouting and finding cool places and then maybe deciding the order to place them in. This one may be a bit more traditional in nature. So many caches, why am I on the forums? Quote Link to comment
+RJFerret Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Neither. My first multi was a night cache, I spent time at the area, looking at site lines, terrain features, and the routes of existing paths to map out a layout so night-cachers lights wouldn't shine toward residences on one side (small area). So the route was devised via pen and paper, then I placed it start to finish. My next one (also a night cache) was more akin to a traditional multi, I think I placed it: #7, #1, #3, #2, #4, #6, #5. The locations were designed so bush-wackers who shoot to nearest waypoint would have the hardest terrain and nastiness (mud/water). Take 'em in order and there are paths near your route (not that you'd necessarily find 'em in the dark, but it's the thought that counts!) Heh.. hth, Randy Quote Link to comment
+Geofool Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 On the two multi's I've done, I progressed from the 1st stage to last. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Quote Link to comment
+BadAndy Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 First to last makes the most sense to me. "Me transmitte sursum, Caledoni!" Quote Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 quote:Originally posted by ChiefPig:Hide them from first to last or do you backtrack and do it from last to first? When I hide them? Doesn't really matter, since I've already figured out all the stations ahead of time. Pre-planning. So the order I actually hide them in is totally irrelevant. Now, when designing the multi, it depends. If I should happen across some place that would be perfect for hiding a small pod containing coordinates, then I would then start looking around to see if there's a good place nearby for an actual cache. Or if I find a good hiding place for a cache, but it too easy a find, I may look around for a way to make it a more interesting multi-stage cache. "Don't mess with a geocacher. We know all the best places to hide a body." Quote Link to comment
+Dave_W6DPS Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 First to last. I travel the stages on two separate days, getting ten waypoint fixes at each one on each day, then verify on another day as I actually place them. I do traditional caches the same way, just with only one stage.... Dave_W6DPS My two cents worth, refunds available on request. (US funds only) Quote Link to comment
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