+TheCat Posted January 2, 2003 Share Posted January 2, 2003 This is a new Topic to keep you all informed on the progress re: getting the UK Stats pages back on-line. Mark (TheCat) www.geocacheuk.com Quote Link to comment
+Chris n Maria Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 So - any news? Bear rescues a speciality! London & UK Geocaching Resources: http://www.sheps.clara.net Quote Link to comment
+Teasel Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Nothing heard since 13/12/02 Quote Link to comment
el10t Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 I am assuming there is still no news? Hope something develops soon. From this thread it looks like GC.com is having a bit of a clamp-down on scraping info. I am glad the GCUK site is attempting to do this properly. Rich mobilis in mobili Quote Link to comment
+Teasel Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 I've just had an email from Elias. Apparently the GC.com servers have been having a bit of a hard time recently, hence the crackdown on webscrapers. So, from the sound of it, right now they've got bigger worries to sort out than our XML feed! However, Elias is hoping to have a beta test feed in the next week or so. Quote Link to comment
+Slytherin Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 Seems like the Yanks dont have too much problem getting action from Elias. http://opentopic.Groundspeak.com/0/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1750973553&f=3000917383&m=5650961645 Quote Link to comment
Wronskian Posted January 14, 2003 Share Posted January 14, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Teasel:However, Elias is hoping to have a beta test feed in the next week or so. Good to hear - it makes sense for GC.com, because having reams of stats to browse on GUK should take some of the burden from their servers. Thanks guys - keep us posted! -- Seek and ye shall find (tupperware, ammo boxes, bears, free ISP CDs...) Quote Link to comment
+TheCat Posted January 20, 2003 Author Share Posted January 20, 2003 I note the comment about the insidecornner site. But here in the UK we are still waiting. The stats have bee down since 27/11/02. I am sure it will be worth the wait. Well I hope so. I have just paid for another three months hosting so I hope it will be worth the wait. Mark (TheCat) www.geocacheuk.com Quote Link to comment
+page28 Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Can you show the stats at the point we stopped scraping...with a big note to say the data is out of date. This will let our 'newbies' get a feel for what should be there once things are truly sorted out Quote Link to comment
+Teasel Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 We wouldn't be able to show the cache stats (ie the search facility + links to streetmap bits) because one of GC.com's main worries is the inclusion of archived caches (eg the recently archived Decaying Hospital cache) in such lists. We could probably put the cacher stats (ie the cacher profile page) back up, if there was sufficient interest. Hopefully, though, we should be getting an XML feed sometime soon... Quote Link to comment
+TheCat Posted January 27, 2003 Author Share Posted January 27, 2003 Just to let you know we are still waiting and have not gone away. We do hope to get the stats going again in the near future, but our hands are tied as we wait for GC.com. Please bear with us we are doing our best. Though I do realise that it is almost 2 months since we shut the stats down as a sign of good faith. When we get some more information we will of course pass it on. Mark (TheCat) www.geocacheuk.com Quote Link to comment
+Teasel Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 I just got an email from Elias. He's quite busy at the moment, so he's not made as much progress on the XML feed as he'd hoped. He's still working on it in the background but for the timebeing, he's agreed that we can switch the webscraper back on. Thanks Elias Unfortunately, it seems like the machine I run my webscraper on is currently on the geocaching.com blacklist Luckily my home PC is OK, so I'm currently bouncing all requests over my modem , so getting the database up to date may take some time... Quote Link to comment
+Chris n Maria Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Well hurrahs and hussahs and a jolly Hi Ho! Well done chaps. Bear rescues a speciality! London & UK Geocaching Resources: http://www.sheps.clara.net Quote Link to comment
L8 Ed Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Good to see the mapsource download back again. I can tell you its a bit of a bugger to do it yourself. This will save valueable time. Ed Quote Link to comment
+Kouros Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Congrats to Teasel and TheCat... and biggest thanks to the geocaching.com team. Very kind!! ------ An it harm none, do what ye will Quote Link to comment
+Teasel Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 You may notice a couple of changes here and there. File downloads now require you to sign a license (just as on the GC.com site itself), and the OS grid references in the cache lists are only 6figs. First priority is to get the database more accurate (there have always been problems with archived caches). Second, I hope to get some sort of 'my stats' page, which will list your recent queries, and provide easy links to the most useful custom pages. Also on the wish list are stats by county, improving the UK summary stats (graphs!) and adding more fields to the cacher stats (virgins defiled, for example!). Photo albums may also be on the cards... Quote Link to comment
dodgydaved Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 For this I break my self imposed exile. Many congrats to Teasel et al for getting the stats up and running again. Great to have them back!!!!! Dave dodgydaved I'm NOT lost, I know exactly where I am, I'm here! Quote Link to comment
+Chris n Maria Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Teasel:You may notice a couple of changes here and there. File downloads now require you to sign a license (just as on the GC.com site itself), and the OS grid references in the cache lists are only 6figs. First priority is to get the database more accurate (there have always been problems with archived caches). Second, I hope to get some sort of 'my stats' page, which will list your recent queries, and provide easy links to the most useful custom pages. Also on the wish list are stats by county, improving the UK summary stats (graphs!) and adding more fields to the cacher stats (virgins defiled, for example!). Photo albums may also be on the cards... Any chance of some cache stats - ie stats about caches? Mean time between visits, total number of visits/found/notfounds. Most popular caches etc.etc That would be cool. Bear rescues a speciality! London & UK Geocaching Resources: http://www.sheps.clara.net Quote Link to comment
+Nia Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Great to see it back Well done, and good to know its all 'legal' now. Are there realy 1266 caches in the UK we have not found yet Better get going. Tech-no notice Quote Link to comment
+welch Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Teasel:I just got an email from Elias. He's quite busy at the moment, so he's not made as much progress on the XML feed as he'd hoped. He's still working on it in the background but for the timebeing, he's agreed that we can switch the webscraper back on. Thanks Elias Let me see if I understand this. Jeremy says he doesnt like scraping, as it adds to the server load, as well as is taking data w/o permission. You switch off your scraper, and wait two months for gc.com to set a feed. Gc.com then decides that they will not be able to do the feed right away, and tells you to turn the scraper back on? Quote Link to comment
el10t Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Shhhh! They'll take it away again if you start being all questiony. Rich mobilis in mobili Quote Link to comment
+Rocky Balboa Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Great news, nice to see everything back up and running, thanx for the efforts guys. Its just a hunt for a lunch box, why be so serious!?! Dan Wilson - www.Buckscaching.co.uk Quote Link to comment
+TheCat Posted January 29, 2003 Author Share Posted January 29, 2003 I note the comment above from Welch but can also understand GC.com's point of view they have lots of other preasures on there time. I am just glad that we are now able to get the data with there blessing. Also I will now be able to get on with the other improvements to the site I have had planned but put on hold pending the outcome of this issue. One last thing I am glad to have the stats back all be it with a webscraper rather than have to wait for GC.com to get the time to get the XML feed going and spend more time with no stats. I would also like to thank Elias and the team at GC.com for the help they have provided. And hope that we can work together in the future to provide the UK Geocaching community with the rescources they deserve. Mark (TheCat) www.geocacheuk.com Quote Link to comment
+Pharisee Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Thanks to you and all the others concerned. John Wild Tupperware Hunter Quote Link to comment
+John Stead Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 So glad your patience has been rewarded - scraper or XML we are all glad it's back and thank you all for the efforts you have made. Quote Link to comment
+The Hornet Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Only just caught up with this bit of news. Well done Cat & Teasel. You've done the business and done it properly! This bodes well for lasting good relations between GC & GUK - just as it should be. _________________________________________________________ It is better to regret something you did, rather than to regret something you didn't do. Quote Link to comment
+Team Minim Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Welll done to all parties! Cache the Bug-Geocaching Quote Link to comment
+Bill D (wwh) Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 It's great to see those stats back! Thanks to all concerned, not least Elias. Bill Quote Link to comment
+Naefearjustbeer Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Great to see the stats back online . Well done to all concerned! Hear about the 2 blondes that walked into a bar? You would of thought at least one of them would of seen it!! Quote Link to comment
+The Good Shepherds Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Teasel:I just got an email from Elias. He's quite busy at the moment ...busy banging his head against the desk trying to figure out what's happened to my "charter membership" status, I hope! Great to see that stats back. I'm amazed at how many new dots have appeared on my autoroute map since the last update! - I thought winter was supposed to be a quiet time for caching! John TGS. Quote Link to comment
MCL Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 OK I looked at my map of caches done/hidden by me (the one from within my own stats page, with just red and green dots on it and there is a rogue cache showing up red near Leeds in Yorshire. Further painstaking investigation shows that this is probably 'Mission Impossible (UK)' that is being mistakenly shown as found, when in fact I have found 'Mission Impossible (Beds)' by Masher, down in Bedfordshire. Presumably you are only looking at a certain number of characters for detection/sorting processes, and the alphanumeric difference between the two is too far rightwards in the strings... No trees were harmed during the production of this posting, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.... Quote Link to comment
+Teasel Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 We use id numbers, not the cache names, so even having two identically named caches shouldn't be a problem. eg: Windy Hill (14914) Windy Hill (41965) The cache in question is actually The CIN Fox Hunt, and the coordinates are probably Mark's old house! Quote Link to comment
+TheCat Posted January 30, 2003 Author Share Posted January 30, 2003 As Teasel said the co-ords where in Bradford. Mark (TheCat) www.geocacheuk.com Quote Link to comment
Waldo Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 Well done everybody not only are the stats back but they're better than ever. I was getting very frustrated doing my own version of webscraping. Once again job well done. Waldo Quote Link to comment
MCL Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Teasel:The cache in question is actually http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=38948, and the coordinates are probably Mark's old house! Aha! That would explain it all.... No trees were harmed during the production of this posting, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.... Quote Link to comment
+Nia Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Good job we do not 'Shoot the messanger' any more. A list of all caches, which have not been found by Nia, which are less than 100 km from SO45 1EN 0 caches found This was not welcome news. Seriously though its a great utility. Tech-no notice Quote Link to comment
el10t Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Nia: (woops edited - I presume you were pointing out a problem with the system ) Quote Link to comment
+Nia Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by el10t: quote:Originally posted by Nia: (woops edited - I presume you were pointing out a problem with the system ) Was I too subtle. ok MY POSTCODE DON'T WORK - SO45 1EN This postcode has been in use for years, its on the database i had 5 years ago so it is not new. It works on geocaching.com but not on geocachinguk or on chris's utility either. just so you know, its not a big problem Tech-no notice Quote Link to comment
+Teasel Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 Yes, unfortunately our postcode database is incomplete. At one point, so was the one on geocaching.com. Jeremy solved that by buying an up to date database (and was criticised on these forums for doing so!), but I'm afraid that's not an option for us. If anyone has a more complete postcode database, please let me know! Quote Link to comment
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