+Topgun123456 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I use Basemap for my Gps unit, works great. When i look at my unit it have all the caches i have downloaded, including my birdseye pictures. But when i go for my caching adventure the unit cant find the downloaded caches. It semes that it can find the waypoints and parkingpoints but not the caches. Back to Basemap and they are all still registered on the unit. I try again and the unit still says no. Any ideas why ? Quote Link to comment
+JohnCNA Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Couple things... Check to see if you have the latest firmware. On the Geocaches list, press menu and check your filter settings. You might have an accidental filter setting that's wrong. Also try menu/Show Found. And these caches are within 100 miles of your current location, yes? On my 64s, it won't display caches more than about 150 miles away until I pan the map there. Quote Link to comment
+Topgun123456 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the answers, have checked it all, no change. Now i have tried to delete them all and copyed them back to the unit.........IT WORKS AGAIN EDIT: I think i have found the problem. It works until i change the batteries, then the unit cant find the caches again. If i delete and restore the caches it works again. This gives me a big problem because i cant change the batteries in the field. EDIT EDIT: Just tried to mess around with the unit. I install the caches and turn the unit on - it works and then i turn it off again. When i turn it on again its gone again. It semes to be the startup "read" function that is not working propperly Any new ideas ? Edited August 2, 2014 by Topgun123456 Quote Link to comment
+Mineral2 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 This is a known issue with all Garmin GPS's where it fails to index the geocaches upon startup. Most people experience this sporadically and not very often, so I'm not sure what's causing your problem to be more chronic. The answer is to do what you did... remove the caches, turn it on, and then load the caches again and it'll often index properly. When this happens while you're out in the field, it can be a bit frustrating. For this reason, it's a good idea to buy a microSD card and put all of your geocaches on the card rather than the internal memory of your GPS. You can always remove the card, turn it on, turn it off, put the card back and get the caches to re-index. Are you using Basecamp to install the geocaches? You don't need to do that. It's best to use pocket queries and put the gpx files directly onto your device (or SD card) in the /Garmin/GPX folder. Quote Link to comment
+Topgun123456 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 Bummer with the index problem :-( SD card now installed, i hope it fixes the problem (atleast it will help me in the field) I will use the pocket queries instead. Thank you very much, here from Denmark Quote Link to comment
alandb Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 It won't fix it, but will allow you to reindex in the field. This problem is common across many Garmin handheld models. On my Oregon 550 it seems to happen after restart if I have added new waypoints for multi caches on the device itself. Quote Link to comment
+irisisleuk Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 We've had the same problem with our 62st, but I wonder if it happens (more) when you have extra maps (for instance an openstreet map) on the gps. Did you add any maps? Quote Link to comment
+Topgun123456 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 Yes i have a Topografic map of Denmark (dont know if the name is correct). I have put all data and BirdsEye data on the newly inserted SD-card. (left only topo map on internal storage) Now i tried to restart, removed batteries 10 times, WORKS PERFECTLY EVERY TIME :-) Quote Link to comment
+JohnCNA Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I had this problem occasionally with my eTrex 30, and pulling the SD card and rebooting always cleared it. I've had a 64s for a few months and never had this happen. I thought they finally had it whipped with the 64 series. Apparently not. I put everything on SD card; maps and GPX files. I use BaseCamp but not to install Geocaches. I always 'export to gpx' to the SD card, using the name of the list as the GPX filename. Everything particular to a location like a FP or city is all in that one gpx; caches, waypoints, tracks, etc. Quote Link to comment
+marpeto Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I have had the same problem, all caches disappears after a power cycle on the GPSMAP 64st. Started to safely remove the GPSMAP from the computer by right-click in Explorer and unmount the drive. Then I'v had no problems. I think Garmin has a general bug in their USB-handling software if this bug exists in many GPS devices. Quote Link to comment
+Mickey and Goofy Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Update it I just got a Garmin GPSMAP64s and I have not had any problems with it, maybe that is fixed. I would go and see if it needs a software update? Oh Yes I did install Topo maps on a 4gb micro card myself and everything is working great. Quote Link to comment
+Topgun123456 Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 Aint gonna cut it for me, my software is 3.10 (newest here in Denmark) I am having a correspondance with Garmin Support here in Denmark, still waiting for the latest answer. To start with they said my caches was in the wrong filetype (geocaching.com) Second they said the problem was my way to put them on the unit (using Basecamp) Then i told them several forum called it a common Garmin problem, havent heard from them since Quote Link to comment
+Mineral2 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 It could be a hardware issue, but it's more likely a bad file somewhere. One option is to perform a hard reset. This will erase all user data and settings and restore the device to factory state. In doing so, it may fix any system files that went bad along the way. If that doesn't work, and your unit is still under warranty, you can probably get Garmin to replace it for you. Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 It is normally something in the GPX file that causes the problems. It is suspected to be bad HTML. I believe GSAK automagically removes the problematic HTML during an export. Quote Link to comment
+Topgun123456 Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Just got reply from Garmin Support Denmark ** Do a hard reset, it is the only thing they can recomend/think off ** Until they release a software update that will fix the problem Hmmmm.... I have my doubt about the fix since this bug has been present for a long time with multible models I cross my fingers and hope the best Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) A hard reset "works" as it reloads the GPX files. BUT, you lose waypoints, tracks, etc..... so it is a poor solution. The solutions stated above are much better. It is not so much a "bug". The problem is from files that contain "bad" HTML. The HTML processing code hangs when trying to deal with it. If you remove the bad HTML first, you won't have the unit hang. I have not had a single unit lock up in years ever since GSAK added the facility to remove the bad HTML. Edited August 5, 2014 by Red90 Quote Link to comment
insig Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 A hard reset "works" as it reloads the GPX files. BUT, you lose waypoints, tracks, etc..... so it is a poor solution. The solutions stated above are much better. Waypoints, tracks, and routes are stored in GPX files on the mass storage drive and will be read in the next time you boot up. Doing a hard reset will not remove those. Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 A hard reset "works" as it reloads the GPX files. BUT, you lose waypoints, tracks, etc..... so it is a poor solution. The solutions stated above are much better. Waypoints, tracks, and routes are stored in GPX files on the mass storage drive and will be read in the next time you boot up. Doing a hard reset will not remove those. Only ones that you have put on the unit. The "active track", any manually added waypoints, recent finds and such are all lost. Quote Link to comment
+HHL Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 […] any manually added waypoints, recent finds […] are all lost. Added waypoints are stored in GPX files. Those files will NOT deleted by a hard reset. Recent finds (the recent finds are NOT stored inside the Geocache GPX file) are deleted because they are stored in the Garmin's internal Index file which will be deleted by hard reset. Hans Quote Link to comment
+Red90 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 […] any manually added waypoints, recent finds […] are all lost. Added waypoints are stored in GPX files. Those files will NOT deleted by a hard reset. Recent finds (the recent finds are NOT stored inside the Geocache GPX file) are deleted because they are stored in the Garmin's internal Index file which will be deleted by hard reset. Hans The added waypoints are only put into a GPX file when the unit is connected to a computer and then placed into the current.gpx file. This is lost on a hard reset. Try it..... Quote Link to comment
+HHL Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 [...] The added waypoints are only put into a GPX file when the unit is connected to a computer and then placed into the current.gpx file. This is lost on a hard reset. Try it..... You're wrong again. The highlighted GPX in the screenshot is a user created waypoint in the field. This GPX will NOT be deleted whilst a hard reset. Hans Quote Link to comment
+Lil Devil Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 current.gpx only holds the latest tracks, before they are archived to date-named .gpx files. Waypoints are saved as shown in the post just above. Quote Link to comment
+HHL Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 current.gpx only holds the latest tracks, before they are archived to date-named .gpx files. Waypoints are saved as shown in the post just above. Except the acient units Red90 is working with (Colorado and the very old Oregon xoo series acting like he described it) Hans Quote Link to comment
+ClayArtist Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Um, I think I know what the problem is. Had this happen to me today, for the second time. Powered up today, after battery change a couple days ago. It said I had no geocaches. Was driving my mom around, not actually caching. So, waited until I got home, hooked it up to the computer and went to look at the drive the SD card is assigned (I keep downloaded cache files on an SD Card on the 64) and said there was no disk in the drive. Light bulb went on in my head, so I pulled the back off, took out the batteries and sure enough, the locking mechanism on the SD card was loose again. You know the batteries can be a little challenging to change in this unit, as they're in there pretty tight. I was in a hurry when I changed them the other day and I think it knocks the locking mechanism loose for the SD Card. So, I re-seated the card, made sure it was in the lock position, put the batteries back in, and voila...there were all the caches. Now, if you are losing the file info and you keep your files in the area the original preloaded cache file was (the one with the useless 250,000 geocaches), and you don't have/use an SD card, I don't know what the problem might be. I opted to delete that original cache file and created a folder on the SD Card called Garmin and another folder UNDER that called GPX and I have about 15 .gpx files in that folder. These files are pocket query results downloaded directly from gc.com. Not created through importing into Base camp, not created using GSAK. Just 15 separate files, with about 1000 caches each. Unlike the DeLorme I had, I don't have to load each file. The 64 sees all the caches in all the files at once. Pretty nice and so much less work. Quote Link to comment
+andyakashrek Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I have heard of people having problems with the sd card cover coming loose and unseating the card,solution is to place a small piece of tape over the cover. Then when batteries are changed the cover stays in place. Quote Link to comment
+NormalGeo Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I usually consider myself ok with technology, but a few weeks ago I purchased my first Garmin, a GPSMAP 64st, and I am completely perplexed at how to use it for Geocaching. Suffice it to say the 64st is making me feel like a total n00b. I've been using an iPad mini tethered to a Bad-Elf Pro GPS, and it is so easy to use; however, that configuration lacks the ability to deploy .gpx files. I have no problem putting together a 'Collection' of Geocaches using Basecamp, then exporting them to the 64st. The problem is that I cannot figure out how to access these when in the field. I seem to only be able to access these caches when the 64st is directly connected to my computer. I can easily view what is on the 64st using basecamp on my computer, but I can't figure out the buttons to hit on the 64st to actually access them on the device. The 64st seems to only want me to go after the preloaded caches, but most of the time (in the area I cache), the cache I am seeking is not included in the preloaded caches. As for accessing a GSAK generated .gpx file from the 64st, I can't even figure out what buttons to push to find the files on the device. A little help pointing me in the right direction (proper forum or a good user manual) would be appreciate. Are you using Basecamp to install the geocaches? You don't need to do that. It's best to use pocket queries and put the gpx files directly onto your device (or SD card) in the /Garmin/GPX folder. Quote Link to comment
+Lil Devil Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 As for accessing a GSAK generated .gpx file from the 64st, I can't even figure out what buttons to push to find the files on the device. Find (button) >> Geocaches >> Enter (button) Quote Link to comment
+Ruddles1325 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Couple things... Check to see if you have the latest firmware. On the Geocaches list, press menu and check your filter settings. You might have an accidental filter setting that's wrong. Also try menu/Show Found. And these caches are within 100 miles of your current location, yes? On my 64s, it won't display caches more than about 150 miles away until I pan the map there. Just wanted to bump this reply, since I had exactly the same thing. Bought a GPSMAP 64S, loaded some pocket queries to it, and then tried to search for a geocache which I knew to be a long way away, but which I am planning on visiting in a few days time. Spell Search couldn't find it. However if I search for a location nearby and look at the map, I can see all the geocaches. So like JohnCNA said, there seems to be some built in filter on the 64s which won't even let you search for distant geocaches. This is a bit annoying if you want to double check that some caches have been loaded up to your device before leaving. I'm glad this note was posted here though, as otherwise I would have gone mad trying to work out what was going on. Quote Link to comment
+JohnCNA Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I know someone with a new Oregon that does this, too. My eTrex 30 was this way as well. It looks like maybe the newer models have this as a standard. On another discussion board it was a suggested possibility that this may have been done on the units that support many thousands of caches to avoid overly long sort and search times. Sure would be nice to be able to override it at times. Quote Link to comment
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