I was the last to log these as found before they were disabled while they are awaiting being fixed or potentially archived. I logged them Wednesday morning. By Thursday they were disabled. This is my second forum post. My first ever was yesterday. I will risk the flames since perhaps my perspective will be useful. Frankly, I had a tough time choosing between found and DNF for these. Still uncertain, but if my logs in any way swayed the decision to disable, then I am actually pleased.
These were the first webcams I have attempted and the outcome was awkward. I definitely found the location and probably found one of the webcams. I don't think the other is even there anymore. I found the specific pages for the web feed for the cameras while standing at each GZ. I specifically visited Beale street to try to find these caches.
The first I visited was Beale Street Blues and seeing the cam there, I figured it was a tech issue on my end. Heck, when my iPad wouldn't display the cameras and I saw a message that there is an Earthcam app, I guessed that the problem was with me and I downloaded 'found' the $0.99 app. What I didn't find was a live camera to photo document the log. My original call was this constituted a DNF and that was how I began to log it. I gave the BSB page's description one more read and I noticed the CO's instruction to post a selfie if the cam isn't working. It was that instruction from the cache description that tipped me over to logging a find. The fact that I had done all of the above and the fact that there were many other selfie logs still had me at DNF. The CO's instructions made the defining difference for me.
Minutes later I was standing at the This Bud's for You GZ and a similar story was unveiling. Only this time, I saw lots of camera on various walls, visible with the naked eye from GZ. I am not even sure I know which, if any were the right one. Only two seemed likely based on likely field of view of cameras. Again, many found logs noting camera wasn't working. I noticed the Earthcam app has a search for webcams in the area, and which are online feature, so I gave that ago. It indicated there are NO Earthcams in the area. Not just there and offline, simply NONE extant. With the BSB experience, this experience, the knowledge that webcam caches are legacy caches and all of the found logs of broken or missing webcams, I concluded that it was the CULTURE of the geocaching community to log these as found, no matter their state. (I am still debating that, but look at the date; there are way more 'found' logs on these broken cams than DNF logs.)
Yesterday I noticed the two webcams were disabled. When. I saw this I nearly simultaneously thought, wow, I am glad I visited their GZs before they were disabled and might be archived, and it is long overdue that action be taken on these. Glad, because it left me with an interesting story. The stories in general are part of what has made me a rapid Geocaching addict. Pleased to see them disabled because being not functional so long and still being considered active seems to go against what I saw as the geocaching ethos. As I logged them, I was thinking I has misunderstood the spirit of geocaching. Seeing them disabled after careful consideration immediately restored my positive view of the geocaching community. I look forward to seeing how the story unfolds.
Ready, set... flame away.....