+coggins Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Changes made from version 5.00 to 5.10: Improvements to the geocaching experience. See TrailTech (http://garmin.blogs.com/softwareupdates/2011/09/improved-geocaching.html) for more information. Fixed a potential hang on startup when importing large numbers of waypoints, tracks, routes, or geocaches Fixed issue with very long geocache descriptions Fixed shutdown when reviewing certain geocache descriptions Fixed issue where the photo orientation would be incorrect in the photo viewer Fixed potential shutdown while scrolling through Garmin Connect photos Fixed issue where some auto-archived tracks would be named in English regardless of user language Fixed bug that could cause some geocaches to not import LINK Link to comment
ZeMartelo Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Hmmm not good... Installed it and now Im stuck in the boot screen with the Loading Photos text... and I removed the memory card where the photos were stored... Link to comment
ZeMartelo Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 wow... it took like 15 minutes to skip to the next step which is to load waypoints tracks and routes... thats where it usually hangs when loading a new fresh cache file... Link to comment
ZeMartelo Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 wow... it took a long time to boot but its working fine now... I guess the moral of the story is to make sure you have a fresh set of batteries installed. It could take awhile to boot the first time. Nice improvements. Like how the caches list show the extra info. Link to comment
+dfx Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Woot for backporting the new Montana shiznits! Link to comment
gitarmac Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 I just updated my oregon 450, it started up fine afterwards. I won't know more till I test it. Link to comment
+larryc43230 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 I just updated my oregon 450, it started up fine afterwards. I won't know more till I test it. Same here, on both counts. It took less than a minute to boot after the update. --Larry Link to comment
+myotis Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Well so far ir has not crashed when I import my PQs. Maybe they have finally fixed the problem! However, it still crashes when I do set up, reset, delete all waypoints. Link to comment
+Gatisk Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Everything loads quickly and without any problems. Geocaching part now looks cool. Link to comment
+myotis Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 has anyone else noticed it appears to be much easier to select somethingon the map Link to comment
+The Chaos Crew Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 (edited) Oh dear – I have tried to update my Oregon 450 to version 5.10 and it hasn’t worked. I’m using WebUpdater from the Garmin site, and all seems to be working fine while the GPS is connected to my computer. WebUpdater confirms that it is version 5.10 that is required and downloads it accordingly. When I disconnect my GPS, however, and switch it on, it comes up with the following: “New software found This software is older than your current software, would you like to continue and lose all user data?” I have tried both Yes and No, either way, it carries on and eventually boots up looking like an old version of the software – with none of the new improvements. And sure enough, when I look in “Setup/About” – it tells me I am now running Beta software 3.52 (I think I was on 4.something before) It also now thinks I am 4,900 miles from home But I’m sure when I get it outside with sight of the sky it will soon come to its senses. Does anyone know how I can get it to accept and install version 5.10? Edited October 14, 2011 by The Chaos Crew Link to comment
+dfx Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Well so far ir has not crashed when I import my PQs. Maybe they have finally fixed the problem! Fingers crossed, that's what I'm hoping too! But you probably jinxed it now... has anyone else noticed it appears to be much easier to select somethingon the map Hm, what do you mean? I don't really notice any difference here... Link to comment
+dfx Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Somehow it's now importing everything every time I start it up... Link to comment
+larryc43230 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Somehow it's now importing everything every time I start it up... If you mean showing the progress bar at the bottom (pausing halfway through) as if new data has been transferred, mine is doing the same thing. Which makes booting up a bit slower than it used to be. --Larry Link to comment
+dfx Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Somehow it's now importing everything every time I start it up... If you mean showing the progress bar at the bottom (pausing halfway through) as if new data has been transferred, mine is doing the same thing. Which makes booting up a bit slower than it used to be. Yeah, that. And it makes booting a lot slower (and eats battery), with having close to 5000 caches loaded. Link to comment
+lodgebarn Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Somehow it's now importing everything every time I start it up... If you mean showing the progress bar at the bottom (pausing halfway through) as if new data has been transferred, mine is doing the same thing. Which makes booting up a bit slower than it used to be. Yeah, that. And it makes booting a lot slower (and eats battery), with having close to 5000 caches loaded. This is the "fix", albeit a little crude, for the problem where updated gpx files were not always processed correctly. Slow is reliable so Garmin have gone for the simpel approach. Now if it was me I would have gone for the load fast but have a manual force reload........ Link to comment
+The Chaos Crew Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 (edited) I finally got it working - no idea how - I just tried and tried over and over again until it finally behaved! I still got the message about finding an older version every time though, even the final time when it worked. Odd. (PS mine is also now taking forever to load up but I do like the way it shows D/T and size on the list of caches around...) Edited October 14, 2011 by The Chaos Crew Link to comment
+dfx Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Somehow it's now importing everything every time I start it up... If you mean showing the progress bar at the bottom (pausing halfway through) as if new data has been transferred, mine is doing the same thing. Which makes booting up a bit slower than it used to be. Yeah, that. And it makes booting a lot slower (and eats battery), with having close to 5000 caches loaded. This is the "fix", albeit a little crude, for the problem where updated gpx files were not always processed correctly. Slow is reliable so Garmin have gone for the simpel approach. Now if it was me I would have gone for the load fast but have a manual force reload........ I honestly hope you're wrong and this is just a simple bug, because as it is now, it sucks quite a lot! Link to comment
+HHL Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 […] I honestly hope you're wrong and this is just a simple bug, because as it is now, it sucks quite a lot! +1 Link to comment
+myotis Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Well so far ir has not crashed when I import my PQs. Maybe they have finally fixed the problem! Fingers crossed, that's what I'm hoping too! But you probably jinxed it now... has anyone else noticed it appears to be much easier to select somethingon the map Hm, what do you mean? I don't really notice any difference here... Prior to this upgrade it seemed to be much harder to select a cache or some other point on the map. I used to have to get it exactly on the cache or whatever before it would be recognized. Now it works if I am close. Link to comment
+myotis Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Oh dear – I have tried to update my Oregon 450 to version 5.10 and it hasn’t worked. I’m using WebUpdater from the Garmin site, and all seems to be working fine while the GPS is connected to my computer. WebUpdater confirms that it is version 5.10 that is required and downloads it accordingly. When I disconnect my GPS, however, and switch it on, it comes up with the following: “New software found This software is older than your current software, would you like to continue and lose all user data?” I have tried both Yes and No, either way, it carries on and eventually boots up looking like an old version of the software – with none of the new improvements. And sure enough, when I look in “Setup/About” – it tells me I am now running Beta software 3.52 (I think I was on 4.something before) It also now thinks I am 4,900 miles from home But I’m sure when I get it outside with sight of the sky it will soon come to its senses. Does anyone know how I can get it to accept and install version 5.10? The update file can be placed on the GPS or the card. If it is on the card, what you describe can occur. You may have had two update files one on the card and one on the GPS. Link to comment
+myotis Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 […] I honestly hope you're wrong and this is just a simple bug, because as it is now, it sucks quite a lot! +1 +2 Link to comment
+paconlacellars Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 All I get is "The Update File is Corrupted." Link to comment
+paconlacellars Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 All I get is "The Update File is Corrupted." Poor connection between pc and 450. Upgrade works fine . Link to comment
+Unobtainium Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Somehow it's now importing everything every time I start it up... If you mean showing the progress bar at the bottom (pausing halfway through) as if new data has been transferred, mine is doing the same thing. Which makes booting up a bit slower than it used to be. Yeah, that. And it makes booting a lot slower (and eats battery), with having close to 5000 caches loaded. This is the "fix", albeit a little crude, for the problem where updated gpx files were not always processed correctly. Slow is reliable so Garmin have gone for the simpel approach. Now if it was me I would have gone for the load fast but have a manual force reload........ I honestly hope you're wrong and this is just a simple bug, because as it is now, it sucks quite a lot! Back to 5.00 :-( Link to comment
+Driddy Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I didn't have any problem with the upgrade. Most features appear as described but the geocaching dashboard is the same as it has ever been. The documentation for the update shows a new geocaching dashboard that displays the cache details along with the compass. Is anyone else experiencing this discrepancy? Link to comment
+coggins Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 I didn't have any problem with the upgrade. Most features appear as described but the geocaching dashboard is the same as it has ever been. The documentation for the update shows a new geocaching dashboard that displays the cache details along with the compass. Is anyone else experiencing this discrepancy? Try switching your dashboard to "Geocaching - Nearest" Link to comment
+Driddy Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I didn't have any problem with the upgrade. Most features appear as described but the geocaching dashboard is the same as it has ever been. The documentation for the update shows a new geocaching dashboard that displays the cache details along with the compass. Is anyone else experiencing this discrepancy? Try switching your dashboard to "Geocaching - Nearest" Thanks! That fixed it. It isn't intuitive why "Geocaching - Active" (the setting I had) shouldn't also display the enhanced details but I am happy to have it working. Link to comment
ZeMartelo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Is anyone else having the reload the cache file at boot? Since the update everytime I boot the unit it reloads the caches as if a new file was sent to it. I use the NuviExport GSAK macro to create the caches to the Oregon. It just started with version 5.1 Any way to fix this? Link to comment
ZeMartelo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Reverted back to 5.00 and the booting worked fine. No more file reload... Installed 5.10 hoping that the unit cleared itself of any setting and back to reloading the cache file at every boot. I guess 5.10 will be a miss for me and Im going back to 5.00 Link to comment
+dfx Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Wireless sending seems to be busted. I sent a geocache today, and after the send was complete (it did complete successfully) my unit froze solid. Link to comment
ZeMartelo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 That happened to me too yesterday. I was on a cache run with other cachers and a I had a cache that someone didnt so I tried to send it wirelessly and it froze my unit solid @97% and his unit locked up as well. Of course had to pull the batteries and reboot and wait for five minutes to reload the cache file... Link to comment
+ecanderson Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Are you folks on 5.10 with the issues reporting them back to the Oregon beta team? I'm still on 4.50. It's stable (one of the lucky ones that never gets a lockup with a fresh 4500 cache load), I have no need for all of the opencaching junk, and it's just now at 5.10 that things are starting to look interesting. Link to comment
ZeMartelo Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I went back to 5.0. cant stand the boot length. Link to comment
+The Chaos Crew Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Another improvement I am noticing with 5.10 is that my 450, which had been noticeably dropping off over recent months in accuracy, is now performing much much better. We were using it out and about over the weekend and it was behaving so much better in terms of delivering us to the cache location. And I love being able to see sizes/D/T etc in the list when I am looking for the next cache to tackle in the area (as we sometimes skip micros or nanos especially if the kids are with us). So for me, the improvements are well worth the slightly longer time it takes to boot up. Link to comment
+AndyT1 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Reports from the Garmin Oregon wiki stete that they are working on the reloading of caches on startup. http://garminoregon.wikispaces.com/message/view/home/44245026?o=0 Link to comment
+Spatial Distortion Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I have installed 5.10 several times now. And every time the install goes fine, but out in the field is the problem. I found 20 caches the other day and when I turned off the GPS, all caches were gone from my "found" list on the GPS. Yet, all the caches are listed in the geocache_visits.txt file. And even though they are listed in the geocache_vists.txt file they won't upload thru gc.com field notes. So i had to copy the file to my computer then upload that file to gc.com and only then would it upload and show the found caches so i could log them. Link to comment
+ecanderson Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Hey - all of those people who complain they can't delete their found caches without hooking up to a computer first should be thrilled I took a look at this firmware, and don't understand what Garmin is doing on boot. Previously, the content of *.gpx files was only inspected for new content and reloaded if a time/date stamp had changed, indicating new content had been loaded. Still makes sense. I don't understand why they would re-load on every boot now. If a previous load of *.gpx was successful, why perform it again? Seems as though the previous approach was OK even with the new and more careful checking. Link to comment
+phantom4099 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) I also have the long boot times with 5.10. Any one have version 5.00 that they could send me (wyatt57350 at hotmail dot com)? I tried http://garminoregon.wikispaces.com/Versions+x50 but 5.00 is not one that I can download. Wyatt W. Edit: I was sent version 5.00 and would like to say thank to those who sent it to me. Edited October 19, 2011 by phantom4099 Link to comment
+Team Cocolores Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 […] I honestly hope you're wrong and this is just a simple bug, because as it is now, it sucks quite a lot! +1 +2 +3 Link to comment
gitarmac Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Since I have updated, my tracks do not stay set to "show on map". They default back to hidden everytime I turn it off. Link to comment
+BANDA Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Since I have updated, my tracks do not stay set to "show on map". They default back to hidden everytime I turn it off. Try updating to to 5.20 http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4523 Link to comment
robertlipe Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Locked per OP's request. Link to comment
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