Need some help

[+barryadams307]

Ok I'm trying to make a geo cach well it's out there right now. But they won't enable it . It's a cach that u just have to fallow a pipe line I give the cords of a trails that some where on the trails there is a pipe . Fallow it north and when u see a sign for the pipe line. Look on Outher side of tree I set it as an off set cache. They say something about that u don't need a gps well how will u find the trails with out a gps ??? And you need something to tell u Wich way is north when u do find the pipe ??? Dose anyone have any ideas of how I can Pleaz them ??

[Clan Riffster]

Maintain open communication with your Reviewer. They are your best asset to get a questionable hide published.

Were I to create a similar hide, I would list it as a traditional, and add waypoints for the trailhead.

[+barryadams307]

Maintain open communication with your Reviewer. They are your best asset to get a questionable hide published.

Were I to create a similar hide, I would list it as a traditional, and add waypoints for the trailhead.

 

I want the cache to be hidden

[+captnemo]

Maintain open communication with your Reviewer. They are your best asset to get a questionable hide published.

Were I to create a similar hide, I would list it as a traditional, and add waypoints for the trailhead.

I agree talk to the reviewer. Myself I would have made this into a multi with the tail the pipe as stages.

[+briansnat]

Hide a container at the posted coordinates containing instructions to follow the pipe. Bingo, you have included GPS use.

Edited October 8, 2010 by briansnat

[+Semper Questio]

Maintain open communication with your Reviewer. They are your best asset to get a questionable hide published.

Were I to create a similar hide, I would list it as a traditional, and add waypoints for the trailhead.

 

I want the cache to be hidden

 

So hide the cache well, but just give good coords for the cache.

 

Not knowing where your cache is, I would think anyone with decent satellite pics or a good trail map could find the trail and/or the pipe and follow it to the cache without a need for a GPS.

 

Another alternative would be to set it up as an offset. Give coords to the trailhead, have them do a projection to the final. You can always mention the pipeline in your hints.

[+barryadams307]

And I'm not done with this at all in the end it will be a 20 mile hike one way

 

And how would u do a projection ??

[+Semper Questio]

And I'm not done with this at all in the end it will be a 20 mile hike one way

 

Sounds like you need to do some more careful planning and work with your reviewer.

 

And how would u do a projection ??

 

You determine the distance and bearing from the given coordinates to your cache and provide that information in the cache description. Also be sure to put the cache's actual coordinates in your cache description as a hidden additional waypoint. The seeker will use the projection information to calculate (usually using their GPS) to determine the coordinates where the cache is located.

[+Panther&Pine]

 

And how would u do a projection ??

 

Think about how LandNav works.

[+Too Tall John]

And I'm not done with this at all in the end it will be a 20 mile hike one way

Wow, a 40 mile round trip hike for one geocache? If you get this listed (and with some of the suggestions given, I think that can happen) how many cachers do you expect will go after it?

And how would u do a projection ??

A useful tool is FizzyCalc.

[+KJcachers]

40 mile round trip for 1 cache. should see about 1 or 2 vistors...ever, possibly more depending on the location.

[+barryadams307]

There will be cache along the way maybe 10 - 15 and maybe a few night caches make it one big cach that will take meany meany trys to get

[+barryadams307]

Well u don't need a gps for land nav but it dose make it a lot easier being in the army I would like to see some caches that u dont need a gps well really u don't need a gps for any caches

[+Panther&Pine]

Well u don't need a gps for land nav but it dose make it a lot easier being in the army I would like to see some caches that u dont need a gps well really u don't need a gps for any caches

I know that you use a compass and a map for LandNav. But you also project waypoints the same way as when you use a compass and a map. I looked at your profile and that is how I knew to suggest LandNav, I already knew you said you're in the Army.

 

You can actually use just a compass and a map to geocache, you should not place caches with a compass and map.

 

I also think you underestimate cachers, your trip could be done in one long round trip. But don't expect many finds on your caches that are farther out.

[+barryadams307]

I like hard hard caches I figer if I make some hard ones some body will make some hard too I wouldn't mind if no one found it for a yr I want to test ppl to see if they have what it takes to even try this one I want them to be so hard that it might take me 5 trys to find it and hike 20 miles

[+Sol seaker]

Well you certainly make some interesting caches!!

 

Just a note, if you're placing the caches using your phone as a GPS, the coordinates will not be accurate.

 

I went around with a friend who had placed some caches using her I-phone, and her caches were all off about 100 feet. She took me around to them so I could get better coordinates for her using my GPS.

 

Phones are not really accurate for finding caches, and it seems even worse for hiding them.

 

They seem to be good for being a cheap way to check to see whether you like geocaching enough to get a real GPS, and that's about it.

 

Good luck.

[+Panther&Pine]

I like hard hard caches I figer if I make some hard ones some body will make some hard too I wouldn't mind if no one found it for a yr I want to test ppl to see if they have what it takes to even try this one I want them to be so hard that it might take me 5 trys to find it and hike 20 miles

Check out some of the 5/5s. And the Urban Psyco series on the East Coast.

[+geekslady]

I like hard hard caches I figer if I make some hard ones some body will make some hard too I wouldn't mind if no one found it for a yr I want to test ppl to see if they have what it takes to even try this one I want them to be so hard that it might take me 5 trys to find it and hike 20 miles

Check out some of the 5/5s. And the Urban Psyco series on the East Coast.

 

Psycho Urban is the name and it is PMO []

[+Coldgears]

 

Phones are not really accurate for finding caches, and it seems even worse for hiding them.

 

Correction, I-phones are inaccurate, from what I've gathered androids are more accurate as they include both types of GPS satellites whereas I-phone uses one type.

 

EDIT: I forget where I read this... Take it with a grain of salt.

Edited October 9, 2010 by Coldgears

[+Ecylram]

 

Phones are not really accurate for finding caches, and it seems even worse for hiding them.

 

Correction, I-phones are inaccurate, from what I've gathered androids are more accurate as they include both types of GPS satellites whereas I-phone uses one type.

 

EDIT: I forget where I read this... Take it with a grain of salt.

The iPhone 4 went with a new chip and a larger antenna. It is quite accurate and uses A-GPS.

[+Coldgears]

 

Phones are not really accurate for finding caches, and it seems even worse for hiding them.

 

Correction, I-phones are inaccurate, from what I've gathered androids are more accurate as they include both types of GPS satellites whereas I-phone uses one type.

 

EDIT: I forget where I read this... Take it with a grain of salt.

The iPhone 4 went with a new chip and a larger antenna. It is quite accurate and uses A-GPS.

So the new Iphone works just as good as the android?

[+Frank AZ]

So the new Iphone works just as good as the android?

 

I have both an iPhone 4 and a Garmin Oregon 450 - I've found in 90% of the cases to be reading the same or nearly the same distance to the cache (within 10%)

[+barryadams307]

I had the organ 550t and the batt crouded and messed it up so I just took it back to REI and got my $ back need the 600 I paid for it and just haven't got a new one yet but then I got the iPhone 4 thought I would try that out for a wile