+allory Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 GPSMAP 62/78 software version 2.44 Beta http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=5071 Changes made from version 2.40 to 2.44: * Added multicaching support. * Added display color to track gpx files. * Added periodic track archiving (See http://garmin.blogs.com/softwareupdates/20...-archiving.html for more information). * Added Automatic Shaded Relief option. * Added import indicator for gpx files. * Added track review page improvements. * Improved accuracy of trip odometer. * Fixed occasional shutdowns. * Fixed calendar to display all geocache finds and attempts on the correct day. * Fixed paging after logging a geocache. * Fixed issues with inconsistent altimeter readings. * Problems with the software may be reported to 67-78Beta@garmin.com. Quote Link to comment
+ryan3295 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Garmin is just rolling out the updates today. Quote Link to comment
+simplyred Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Trying it now. When it rebooted, it got stuck on a garmin screen after going through the update. Nothing worked, had to pull the batteries. Re installed the batteries and started working, shut down once on me, but not sure if batteries are low. Put new batteries, one thing I've noticed is when you zoom in or out on map page, it all changes colors and then goes back. Will post more if need be. Quote Link to comment
+simplyred Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Was all excited, when you go to a multicache, you now have the option to enter next stage. Cool. But when I stop navigating, it close down the whole GPS. 2 shutdowns already. Quote Link to comment
+simplyred Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Trying to go back to 2.40. This beta keeps hanging and I can't get it to go again. Edited August 12, 2010 by simplyred Quote Link to comment
+g-o-cashers Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I had a problem after the upgrade (the unit hung) but a battery pull seemed to revive it. I dont' have any problems Entering the Next Stage, etc. Interestingly the altimeter problem appears like it might be addressed. I can squeeze and push on buttons, the case, etc and the altitude doesn't seem to move at all. Before it would jump all over the place. Quote Link to comment
+simplyred Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 mine to, but now it doesn't stop hanging. calling garmin as i type Quote Link to comment
+Thrak Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Dang. I was all excited when I saw this since I have a lot of problems with my 78s. I was going to rush home and do the update but it sounds like I'd better wait. Quote Link to comment
+The Ravens Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Dang. I was all excited when I saw this since I have a lot of problems with my 78s. I was going to rush home and do the update but it sounds like I'd better wait. +1 Quote Link to comment
+simplyred Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 back at 2.40 after Garmin support helped me. Gonna wait for the proper release. I'm leaving tomorrow and thought I was gonna have to use my old 60CSX. Had to reboot everything now I'm loading the maps right to the GPS memory, instead of my card. Hopefully no more problems. Did like some of the new features, the brief time it was working with 2.44. Quote Link to comment
+Wienerdog Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Updated unit. No hangups, shut downs or other problems found. The multicache function and calender log dates are working great now. Quote Link to comment
+simplyred Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Updated unit. No hangups, shut downs or other problems found. The multicache function and calender log dates are working great now. do you have maps on a card, and did you remove it before updating? What and how did your update go about Quote Link to comment
+Wienerdog Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 The 62s has a CN micro card installed. It was not removed for the update. As for the update proper it was a straight forward SW download , open the file and let the process run itself. The instructions say let the unit restart but I had to do the restarting. Quote Link to comment
+G.O. John and Carol Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I was SO relieved to see this thread. I was stuck on the Garmin screen for 20 minutes and afraid to do anything. Haven't even used the thing to find a cache yet, going to a mega event for 3 days starting tomorrow, and I'm dead in the water! OH NO! How could this happen??? Fortunately, the battery pull seems to have done the trick. Getting too old for this drama! Quote Link to comment
kiwitonita Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Installed OK into a 62s and started no problem at all. I don't have any caches or card loaded so can't comment on those aspects. Quote Link to comment
+sammydee Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Installed smoothly on a 62st. No hangs or battery pulls required, the update went flawlessly. The new firmware seems to have significantly improved the altitude issue being discussed in the main 62 thread. More discussion there. Quote Link to comment
+Thrak Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Installed smoothly on a 62st. No hangs or battery pulls required, the update went flawlessly. The new firmware seems to have significantly improved the altitude issue being discussed in the main 62 thread. More discussion there. Took the plunge and did the install. It went flawlessly. So far, so good. Quote Link to comment
+sammydee Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Ooh, the update also seems to have fixed the nasty error message that I used to get every time I tried to "Safely Remove Hardware" to unmount the 62st from my Windows 7 64-bit system. Now it smoothly disconnects and powers down just as it should. Quote Link to comment
+ryan3295 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 The gps version also changed with the 2.44 beta, from 4.48 to 4.52. You can access this info from the diagnostic screen (holding enter while powering up). Cannot wait to try it out!! Quote Link to comment
+MrRocketMan Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Pulled memory card, loaded, and it worked fine for me. Quote Link to comment
+kcmose Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Dang. I was all excited when I saw this since I have a lot of problems with my 78s. I was going to rush home and do the update but it sounds like I'd better wait. +1 Yep, ditto here too. Quote Link to comment
+TheRedArmy Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) my updated went ok or at least it appears to have gone ok. ** anyone having problems uploading maps to their GPS ** mine says "unable to unlock maps" on the GPS, even though all my maps are UNLOCKED on MAPSOURCE (ibycus, topo and city navigator) seems to be the CITY NAVIGATOR it doesn't like, but i also notice my IBYCUS doesn't show up in the SETUP MAP section and the TOPO MAPS don't show all the sections i uploaded. weired. Edited August 13, 2010 by brucered Quote Link to comment
+kit'n'kaboodle Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 (edited) I registered the Unit and then went to "My Dashboard" where I was told there was an Update. Click on that , the SW was downloaded and then they told my to disconnect and start up the unit which I did. Well, I got the opening Garmin screen but it faded to nothing. I remembered from a previous unit that if you press the power button and the PAGE button simultaneously to get a diagnostic screen. It indicates that I still have v2.40 which makes some sense because the LOADER program never appeared. But, then why didn't it stay with 2.40 as if the BETA SW didn't exist. I now have a $450 hand grenade. BTW my batteries were fine plus swapping out batteries didn't help. Edited August 14, 2010 by Kit'n'Kaboodle Quote Link to comment
+Redwoods Mtn Biker Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I don't think My Dashboard will install a beta version, but it would have installed 2.40 if you didn't have it before. Quote Link to comment
+kit'n'kaboodle Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I already had 2.40 which I had installed last week. I don't think My Dashboard will install a beta version, but it would have installed 2.40 if you didn't have it before. Quote Link to comment
+Thrak Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Ok folks. Here's an update. If you read my previous posts you know that I was pretty unhappy with this unit and with Garmin. I installed the Beta update and did a bit of geocaching. It seems that Garmin has FIXED the problems. The lock up issue I had when switching from "off road" to "on road" or from "on road" to "off road" is GONE. -- This was a huge issue for me and it seems to be fixed. I tried it a LOT of times and had no problems at all. The problem I had when I logged a cache as found and hit "done" and was sent to a page full of menu choices that didn't work is GONE. (It now returns me to the list of geocaches and the list works properly -- which is absolutely fine with me.) I haven't found a cache in the late afternoon to verify the calendar issue but that's listed specifically as one of the items fixed and I'd bet it has been fixed. At this point I'm a pretty happy guy. If things keep working the way they are at this time I'd have to say that I TOTALLY LOVE THIS 78s. Many thanks to Garmin for listening to folks who complained. It's sad they didn't have this stuff working properly upon release but at least the seem to have fixed it pretty quickly. NOTE: I did have one reboot when I went from battery power to cigarette lighter power but only one and I can't say for certain I didn't have the thing pressed against my leg so that it was pushing the button. Hopefully that was the case. Even if this problem does actually remain the improvement is huge and I'm still extremely happy with the 78s. Quote Link to comment
+kit'n'kaboodle Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Well, as if by magic, I went back to My Dashboard (after I learned how to force the unit into Mass Storage mode) and updated again. IT WORKED! I cannot explain how. But Jimmy cracked corn and I don't care! I already had 2.40 which I had installed last week. I don't think My Dashboard will install a beta version, but it would have installed 2.40 if you didn't have it before. Quote Link to comment
+simplyred Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 So who all has this working for them. Trying to find positive feedback, but is yours still working good with new firmware.. Quote Link to comment
+MrRocketMan Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 So who all has this working for them. Trying to find positive feedback, but is yours still working good with new firmware.. I have it working for me. Cached with it Sunday finding about 27 with it and it seemed very solid. I found a few very minor bugs but that is to be expected with a beta. Quote Link to comment
+Thrak Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 So who all has this working for them. Trying to find positive feedback, but is yours still working good with new firmware.. Seems to be working fine for me. Quote Link to comment
freeday Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 (edited) Did anyone get a feedback from 62-78Beta@garmin.com I am not sure, if my mails ever reached the beta-team. Or is it normal to get no reply? Edited August 17, 2010 by freeday Quote Link to comment
+MrRocketMan Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Did anyone get a feedback from 62-78Beta@garmin.com I am not sure, if my mails ever reached the beta-team. Or is it normal to get no reply? I have never received a reply. I believe that is normal. Quote Link to comment
freeday Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 That is a rather unusual behavior for a big company Quote Link to comment
freeday Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 How long does your gpsmap 62s work with only 3 bars of batterielevel? (Eneloop or any other rechargeable batterie) My unit works a lot of hours with 4 bars - but after changing to 3 bars, it only takes about 90 minutes until the unit powers off. (i already tried all types of batterie in the settings) Quote Link to comment
+simplyred Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Well was hoping for a public release , but with all the caching I've been doing lately, I'm anxious to try out the new firmware. So last night i cleared all GPS info, reset all settings, pulled out the memory card with all my maps and reloaded the Beta firmware. rebooted and let it complete. Checked it out a bit to see if all was ok, then replaced my card, worked OK, and then loaded caches to it. tried playing with it a bit again and tried it again this morning. So far, so good. I have a copy of the 2.40 just in case, but so far not needed. Quote Link to comment
freeday Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 (edited) here is a chart, how long the gpsmap 62s works with 3 bars 1. line: time of operation in minutes with 4 bars of batteryindicator (15 h = 900 min) 2. line: time of operation in minutes with 3 bars of batteryindicator (45 min) 3. line: time of operation in minutes with 2 bars of batteryindicator (30 min) 4. line: time of operation in minutes with 1 bars of batteryindicator (10 min) 5. line: time of operation in minutes with 1 bars of batteryindicator ("low batt message" 10 minutes before shutdown of gpsmap62s) So the 1 bar batteryindicator is shown for 20 minutes. Edited August 20, 2010 by freeday Quote Link to comment
+Thrak Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 here is a chart, how long the gpsmap 62s works with 3 bars My question here is whether the unit has a problem with poor battery performance or if it shows 4 bars far too long before dropping to 3 bars. Granted, that would still be a problem but only in how it displays the remaining power bars. If it lasts a long time at 4 bars and then drops to 3 bars with very little power actually remaining that's a problem with the way the power bars are displayed. If it lasts a "suitably normal" (whatever that may mean) time on 4 bars and then rapidly dies that's a different problem. I haven't used my 78s in the field enough yet to weigh in on this issue. EITHER way it seems that it's an issue that needs to be addressed but I'd be very interested to know which issue it is. Quote Link to comment
freeday Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 (edited) in other words: 15 hours with 4 bars and if it changes from 4 bars to 3 bars the unit has only 95 minutes until power down. so if you see 3 bars it works maximal 95 minutes. the battery indicator of the gpsmap 62s has a big bug this behaviour was tested on several gpsmap62s with different eneloop-batteries Edited August 20, 2010 by freeday Quote Link to comment
+ryan3295 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 in other words: 15 hours with 4 bars and if it changes from 4 bars to 3 bars the unit has only 95 minutes until power down. so if you see 3 bars it works maximal 95 minutes. the battery indicator of the gpsmap 62s has a big bug this behaviour was tested on several gpsmap62s with different eneloop-batteries I experience the same behavior, if your battery indicator isn't on full its about time to change the batteries. Quote Link to comment
freeday Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 (edited) The curious thing on using ENELOOP is: ENELOOP (after used for some hours) in GARMIN VISTA HCX: Setup Alkaline: 2 bars XX Setp Nimh: 1 bars X The same ENELOOP in GARMIN GPSMAP 62s: Setup Alkaline: 4 bars XXXX Setup Nimh: 4 bars XXXX Garmin changed the batteryindicator levels compared to the vista hcx. Edited August 20, 2010 by freeday Quote Link to comment
+simplyred Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Tried out the firmware today in the field, after finding a cache, it still didn't show up on the calendar. When I plugged it in to the car adapter it went into usb mode, but froze at 99%. Shut down and restarted, still working. Quote Link to comment
+bcblues Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 I updated from 2.40 to 2.40 via the MyGarmin Dashboard. It said I needed and update, which it performed, but the version didn't change. The Garmin Updater Utility program said last night I was up-to-date. So I am not sure what is going on with the update via dashboard. It did work fine after that "update". Then, I installed 2.44 beta, which froze on reboot at the "Garmin" screen, apparently just like others on this forum. I pulled the battery and powered up again. It booted normally, and I have the new firmware. Took it out for a quick lunchtime find, and it froze up while entering a note on a cache. I had to pull the batteries again, then it rebooted fine. But I did notice that in bright sun, the map screen flickers quite noticeably now, especially the boundaries around the text boxes of the dashboard. Love the improvements, but possibly not quite ready for primetime. Anybody know how to roll back to 2.40? Quote Link to comment
gpscybr Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 I applied the beta to my 62ST and it worked without a hitch. The only thing, as was mentioned before, you have to be patient when the unit re-initializes on re-boot as it can take a while - it's not hung!! If you pull the batteries while it's doing this, there is a strong chance you could corrupt some files. Quote Link to comment
kiwitonita Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Anybody know how to roll back to 2.40? The method described here worked for me: Can I force an upgrade or downgrade to a particular release?. Quote Link to comment
+bcblues Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Thanks for the link. I downloaded the 2.40 file in case I need it. I have been caching the last couple days and it seems stable now (knock on wood). Good to know there is a way out if I need it though. Anybody know how to roll back to 2.40? The method described here worked for me: Can I force an upgrade or downgrade to a particular release?. Quote Link to comment
+comphelp Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 I know its an open-ended question but how long do Garmin "Normally" take from Beta to stable releases? Quote Link to comment
+bcblues Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Mine was definitely hung, unless it takes over an hour to reboot! Quote Link to comment
normis Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Not really sure if this is related to the beta, or I have a bad unit: - accuracy problems under trees, inside car, or nearby buildings (2-4 stories are enough!). Drops from 3m to 20m once I enter the car. Drops from 3m to 23m when going onto a street with houses. WAAS/EGNOS is on - crashes at different times. simply freezes when I am opening a cache description (not always, like once per 20 caches) or when simply scrolling through logs Quote Link to comment
+bcblues Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I've been using this for over a week and it appears to be stable (knock on wood). Quote Link to comment
+bcblues Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 I've been using this for over a week and it appears to be stable (knock on wood). Quote Link to comment
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