+buttaskotch Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 i don't like it because there should only be one FTF for a cache if say i was the tenth to find it that is not FTF Sooooo.....don't claim a FTF. Claim a find. Problem solved! Quote Link to comment
+tozainamboku Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 the cache is F.T.F.......Estero (GC128Z8) i don't like this what do you all think What do you think of this emoticon ? I don't like it. I don't like raspberry ice cream. If Signal is going to eat ice cream, it should be vanilla or chocolate. Quote Link to comment
+dfx Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 the cache is F.T.F.......Estero (GC128Z8) i don't like this what do you all think What do you think of this emoticon ? I don't like it. I don't like raspberry ice cream. If Signal is going to eat ice cream, it should be vanilla or chocolate. what about signal eating popcorn then? Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) i don't like it because there should only be one FTF for a cache if say i was the tenth to find it that is not FTF Can you please point me to Groundspeak's official rules about FTF? there are no official rules about this i joist don't think it is right Then it is a good thing that you live waaaay over there in CO, and the cache is waaaay down there in FL. So unless you have a trip planned to that area it should be really easy to ignore it. And if you do have a trip planned to that area, you can still ignore it. I don't think poor grammar or spelling in forum posts is right, but I'm not going to start a thread to whine about it. Edited April 29, 2010 by wimseyguy Quote Link to comment
+NanCycle Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I like it. A new twist on the typical guardrail hide. I'm sure some will complain about the ALR's but it doesn't bother me. It's a "?" cache; it's allowed to have an ALR. Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I like it. A new twist on the typical guardrail hide. I'm sure some will complain about the ALR's but it doesn't bother me. It's a "?" cache; it's allowed to have an ALR. First, it is a mystery/puzzle cache. Second mystery/puzzle caches are not allowed to have Additional Logging Requirements. Third, this cache does not have an Additional Logging Requirement, it has a Logging Request. Quote Link to comment
+Ike 13 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) I have found one and enjoyed it. I had imagined a really long GR, but was somewhat disappointed it only had 20 or so posts. (If you want to know which one just look at my profile under FTF's) DoubleBent ALR's are no longer allowed. That is why the description says the logs will no longer be deleted. The finder does not HAVE to move it, and they do not HAVE to claim FTF. It is just suggested. It is a Mystery/Unknown because the coordinates are not fixed. The reviewer probably has at least the end points for reference. If the new hider listed the coordinates that would A) decrese the challange and fun B make it a traditional instead of a mystery. And as others have said, if you don't like it move on. Every cache will not please everybody. Edited April 29, 2010 by IkeHurley13 Quote Link to comment
+Jess80&Mike99 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 This cache looks like a creative cache. I can understand the concept. I usually read the logs and cache page before going after a cache so if I don't like the cache or what other cachers are posting about it I won't go after it (of course that has never happened ). So you had ample opportunity to disregard this cache and you went after it anyway. Jess80 Quote Link to comment
+popokiiti Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Each to their own. I quite like the silliness of it, you still get a smiley, and it is different. I'd go for it if it were near here. I also enjoyed reading the logs - thanks for the link! Quote Link to comment
+dfx Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 First, it is a mystery/puzzle cache.Second mystery/puzzle caches are not allowed to have Additional Logging Requirements. what? yes of course, mystery caches are allowed to have an ALR. if you have a cache that has an ALR, it's gotta be a mystery cache. Quote Link to comment
+cw1710 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 FTF naked (yes, there was one). was there photographic proof? There is a cacher whose name I believe is nakedcacher, who as the name implies, caches naked. There are several naked pictures of him on his profile of his out caching (they are censored). I saw it on the forums somewhere so his name could be spelled a little different but I think that was it. Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 FTF naked (yes, there was one). was there photographic proof? There is a cacher whose name I believe is nakedcacher, who as the name implies, caches naked. There are several naked pictures of him on his profile of his out caching (they are censored). I saw it on the forums somewhere so his name could be spelled a little different but I think that was it. nudecacher. He does wear clothes at events, not sure about out in the woods. Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 FTF naked (yes, there was one). was there photographic proof? There is a cacher whose name I believe is nakedcacher, who as the name implies, caches naked. There are several naked pictures of him on his profile of his out caching (they are censored). I saw it on the forums somewhere so his name could be spelled a little different but I think that was it. nudecacher. He does wear clothes at events, not sure about out in the woods. Quote Link to comment
BCProspectors Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Since this cache is moved one support over each time a cacher finds it it would be considered a traveling cache so it is prohibited by the Guidelines. Quote Link to comment
+thedeadpirate Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 First, it is a mystery/puzzle cache.Second mystery/puzzle caches are not allowed to have Additional Logging Requirements. what? yes of course, mystery caches are allowed to have an ALR. if you have a cache that has an ALR, it's gotta be a mystery cache. You need to revisit the guidelines. Additional Logging Requirements were done away with completely last year. They were not even allowed to be grandfathered. Any caches that had ALR's at the time were required to either make them Requests or do away with them altogether or they eventually were archived. The guideline you are thinking of is from the previous year when they did change the guidelines to say that any ALR caches had to be mystery caches. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 First, it is a mystery/puzzle cache.Second mystery/puzzle caches are not allowed to have Additional Logging Requirements. what? yes of course, mystery caches are allowed to have an ALR. if you have a cache that has an ALR, it's gotta be a mystery cache. What? Maybe if you posted this in 2007 or something. ALR's are not allowed, period. If you're seeing mystery caches that still have ALR's, they've just slipped through the cracks, and haven't been "updated". There's a handful in my area. Not that I'd ever report them or anything. Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 First, it is a mystery/puzzle cache.Second mystery/puzzle caches are not allowed to have Additional Logging Requirements. what? yes of course, mystery caches are allowed to have an ALR. if you have a cache that has an ALR, it's gotta be a mystery cache. No they aren't and that is why the ALR of the cache in question was changed to a Logging Request. I suggest you read Logging of All Physical Caches. As this is a physical cash, no ALR can be enforced. Quote Link to comment
+thedeadpirate Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Since this cache is moved one support over each time a cacher finds it it would be considered a traveling cache so it is prohibited by the Guidelines. The cache does not move any further than any other cache could be expected to stray. The cache does not move to a new town. It moves within a very confined area. At best, you might have an argument that it would need to be labeled as a multi. But I see no problem with the cache as it is. I do see that some people just like to hunt for things to get upset about. BTW, I can play Devil Came Down To Georgia. Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Since this cache is moved one support over each time a cacher finds it it would be considered a traveling cache so it is prohibited by the Guidelines. Not true, it has predetermined locations that it can be moved making it perfectly legit. Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Since this cache is moved one support over each time a cacher finds it it would be considered a traveling cache so it is prohibited by the Guidelines. The cache does not move any further than any other cache could be expected to stray. The cache does not move to a new town. It moves within a very confined area. At best, you might have an argument that it would need to be labeled as a multi. But I see no problem with the cache as it is. I do see that some people just like to hunt for things to get upset about. BTW, I can play Devil Came Down To Georgia. I can flow The devil went up to Detroit! And scratch it if I still had turntables. Quote Link to comment
+thedeadpirate Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I can flow The devil went up to Detroit!And scratch it if I still had turntables. I tried Freebird, since JJC requested it, but it's more of a guitar solo kind of song. Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I can flow The devil went up to Detroit!And scratch it if I still had turntables. I tried Freebird, since JJC requested it, but it's more of a guitar solo kind of song. ooooo using Freebirds highway on Guitar Hero to encode a puzzle cache that gets moved around, every one claims FTF on and something else that is legit but get peoples knickers in a bunch that I can't think of now. Quote Link to comment
+joespaz Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 The cache does not move any further than any other cache could be expected to stray. How far does this cache move again? I hope no other cache I go to find moves 1,000 feet!!! (I still like the idea of the cache) Quote Link to comment
+thedeadpirate Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 You could probably ask the reviewer. I'm sure he has all the coords for each post. But that is just conjecture on my part. I have armchair DNF'd it. Quote Link to comment
+Proud Soccer Mom Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 This just reminds me that I have to plan a caching run in Lee County. Why is the guy from Colorado being so weird about a South Florida micro? Quote Link to comment
+GeoGeeBee Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I think the OP posted this in the wrong place. It belongs here: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=247710 Quote Link to comment
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