shiltonpig Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 From time to time (and particularly recently) Reviewers and Moderators come under a certain amount of scrutiny and criticism. However it certainly appears that they spend a lot of time voluntarily to do this role. So I was wondering as a "newbie" (please see my other post) to clearly understand the 2 roles, and what they have to do and how much time do they spend freely to do it. And how did they get to be in that role? I am genuinely interested.... Quote Link to comment
+rob.marsh Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Reviewers are those peeps who check caches before they are publish and monitor those laid for issue. Moderators moderate the forums. I say hi 5 to them all for giving up their time to do so! Quote Link to comment
+MartyBartfast Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) Reviewers have the job of reviewing cache submissions prior to publishing, they also look after archiving caches that are in breech of the regs etc. Reviewers tend to be local to the country they're reviewing caches for, the UK reviewers are all UK based cachers. Moderators moderate this forum (and potentially other GC forums). At one time the same individuals held both positions, but there was a bit of a kerfuffle a couple of years ago and the incumbents at the time decided they didn't want to be both reviewers and moderators, so now I think the roles are being done by different individuals. I think we're now being moderated from the USA, I don't think we have any UK mods any more (though I stand to be corrected). Edited February 19, 2010 by MartyBartfast Quote Link to comment
shiltonpig Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 Can I now ask why we don't have any UK moderators now at all please? Quote Link to comment
+drdick&vick Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 I presume that GC have decided not to use UK mods or nobody has volunteered. I would not envy anybody who took on the job, I moderate on one which is so peaceful I hardly ever have to do anything from week to week. Quote Link to comment
+The Blorenges Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 As to how one becomes a reviewer, please see this post from Deceangi in the Geocaching Topics forum where the same question was asked recently: Read all about it! MrsB Quote Link to comment
+Matthew 7:7 Too Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) There's a list of forum moderators given here: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php...mp;CODE=leaders. As there's no specific moderator listed for this forum, it looks like the job is handled by the Global Moderators (mtn-man & Miss Jenn are shown as the forum leaders). But I've noticed a new reviewer name popping up recently - is there a list of reviewers anywhere, and the parts of the UK that they cover? It would be nice to be able to welcom new volunteers to such a vital job. (Mrs B's post just above mine, has answered my question just as I was asking it!! Now that's service!!!!!!) Chris Edited February 19, 2010 by Matthew 7:7 Too Quote Link to comment
Deceangi Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Can I now ask why we don't have any UK moderators now at all please? The Brutally honest answer. At one time the UK Reviewers used to Moderate the UK forum. On the resignation of one of them, I landed on my own covering both roles in the UK, a impossible workload normally. But due to the major angst in this forum, a nightmare. Groundspeak brought in a UK Cacher to be the Forum Moderator, and I stepped back from moderating to being a back up to her. Due to a group of Small minded Individuals [and yes that is the only description for them] there was a concerted effort to force her out. This added to other issues, caused a situation, where she decided enough was enough. Having seen the way she had been treated, I decided that I was not prepared to step up and become the main Moderator for this forum. And take more of the flak that I had previously received. So asked to be removed as a Forum Moderator. The result is that this forum is now Moderated by one of the Global Moderators and a Lackey. Yes I know the above is going to upset some people, but as stated I'm being Brutally Honest. As for becoming a Forum Moderator, they are invited to become one by Groundspeak. As for Reviewers. As already described. We review all cache submissions, to insure that they meet the Guidelines, Local Guidelines and any Landowner Agreements. We deal with community members requests for help or information, also complaints. We are responsible for dealing with caches which have been Disabled for a extended time. We are the recipient along with the cache owner of Needs Arching logs, and are responsible for actioning them. We generally action Landowner complaints on behalf of Groundspeak, that's one of the downsides of being a Reviewer. We receive thanks for doing the job from the community, but also flak from the community. All of the above on a Volunteer Unpaid basis. The hours worked are entirely dependant on what we can put in. But over 2009, I was averaging 5-6 hours per day. 7 days a week, with Christmas day off . As to how you become a Reviewer? The local Reviewers Decide the workload justifies bring on a new colleague. They then start the process of looking for suitable candidates. Once someone suitable is found they are then put through the following First their name is sent to Groundspeak for a initial decision. If Groundspeak give the ok, their name is then taken to the World Reviewer Community for their opinion. This is because the Reviewer community have to feel that they can trust this person, As some Reviewers are in the closet. If the person passes this stage, they then go back to Groundspeak for a Final decision. Once given the OK the local Reviewer, will then approach the person and ask them to join the Reviewer Community. Personally having asked 2 of my colleagues that question over the phone, I can tell you it is a Jaw droping question . As I'm sure I heard both their chins hit the floor Quote Link to comment
Deceangi Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) There's a list of forum moderators given here: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php...mp;CODE=leaders. As there's no specific moderator listed for this forum, it looks like the job is handled by the Global Moderators (mtn-man & Miss Jenn are shown as the forum leaders). But I've noticed a new reviewer name popping up recently - is there a list of reviewers anywhere, and the parts of the UK that they cover? It would be nice to be able to welcom new volunteers to such a vital job. (Mrs B's post just above mine, could have answered my question just as I was asking it!! Now that's service !!!!!!) Chris As not many UK cachers visit the main forum, here is the list of UK Reviewers Reviewer Name-Finder Name-Personal Name Alba15--geoki--Carol Chiastiolite--Von Horst--Helen The Bee Keeper--sssss--Steve Graculus--The Blorenges--Chris Deceangi--Mancunian Pyrocacher--Dave Antheia is currently in the closet, but will be out at the UK Mega in Perth Scotland. geoawareUK is in the closet, but will be out at the UK Mega in Perth Scotland. As I believe there is a possibility of a Earthcache workshop. The Reviewer for Ireland who works closely with us, and will hopefully be at the Mega is Croaghan-Dino-Niall If anyone is attending the UK Mega in Perth, there will be a Reviewer Q&A Workshop. I and hopefully a couple of my colleagues [instead of sitting at the back heckling ] will happily answer all questions where possible. Alternatively the now Traditional (someone else's description) Bun and Brew event will take place on the Monday after the Mega on the Mega Campsite. Please feel free to say hi, we're all very approachable [in my case just as the N Wales and NW cachers, who pull my leg at events ] The responsibility is shared out as follows, it's easier to provide a new list as I just have to copy and paste Scotland North-Alba15 Scotland South-Alba15 North East England--Alba15 & Deceangi North West England---Alba15 & Deceangi Yorkshire and Humberside---Alba15 & Deceangi East Midlands-Antheia West Midlands-Chiastiolite Eastern England-The Beekeper London-The Bee Keeper North Wales-Deceangi South Wales-Chiastiolite South West England- Graculus Southern England- Graculus South East England-Deceangi Isle of Man-Deceangi Malta-Deceangi Gibraltar-Deceangi Guernsey-Antheia Jersey-Antheia Deci edited well you know why Edited February 20, 2010 by Deceangi Quote Link to comment
shiltonpig Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 Can I now ask why we don't have any UK moderators now at all please? All of the above on a Volunteer Unpaid basis. The hours worked are entirely dependant on what we can put in. But over 2009, I was averaging 5-6 hours per day. 7 days a week, with Christmas day off . How do you find the time? Plus isn't that too much workload for one person? Quote Link to comment
+drdick&vick Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Can I now ask why we don't have any UK moderators now at all please? The Brutally honest answer. At one time the UK Reviewers used to Moderate the UK forum. On the resignation of one of them, I landed on my own covering both roles in the UK, a impossible workload normally. But due to the major angst in this forum, a nightmare. Groundspeak brought in a UK Cacher to be the Forum Moderator, and I stepped back from moderating to being a back up to her. Due to a group of Small minded Individuals [and yes that is the only description for them] there was a concerted effort to force her out. This added to other issues, caused a situation, where she decided enough was enough. Having seen the way she had been treated, I decided that I was not prepared to step up and become the main Moderator for this forum. And take more of the flak that I had previously received. So asked to be removed as a Forum Moderator. The result is that this forum is now Moderated by one of the Global Moderators and a Lackey. Yes I know the above is going to upset some people, but as stated I'm being Brutally Honest. As for becoming a Forum Moderator, they are invited to become one by Groundspeak. As for Reviewers. As already described. We review all cache submissions, to insure that they meet the Guidelines, Local Guidelines and any Landowner Agreements. We deal with community members requests for help or information, also complaints. We are responsible for dealing with caches which have been Disabled for a extended time. We are the recipient along with the cache owner of Needs Arching logs, and are responsible for actioning them. We generally action Landowner complaints on behalf of Groundspeak, that's one of the downsides of being a Reviewer. We receive thanks for doing the job from the community, but also flak from the community. All of the above on a Volunteer Unpaid basis. The hours worked are entirely dependant on what we can put in. But over 2009, I was averaging 5-6 hours per day. 7 days a week, with Christmas day off . As to how you become a Reviewer? The local Reviewers Decide the workload justifies bring on a new colleague. They then start the process of looking for suitable candidates. Once someone suitable is found they are then put through the following First their name is sent to Groundspeak for a initial decision. If Groundspeak give the ok, their name is then taken to the World Reviewer Community for their opinion. This is because the Reviewer community have to feel that they can trust this person, As some Reviewers are in the closet. If the person passes this stage, they then go back to Groundspeak for a Final decision. Once given the OK the local Reviewer, will then approach the person and ask them to join the Reviewer Community. Personally having asked 2 of my colleagues that question over the phone, I can tell you it is a Jaw droping question . As I'm sure I heard both their chins hit the floor How dare you take Christmas Day off I can vouch for the fact that the reviewers are human as I had the pleasure of meeting Graculus (Chris) at the top of a very wet and windy St Agnes Beacon on Boxing Day and of course the lovely Mrs B Quote Link to comment
+Happy Humphrey Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Don't feel sorry for the reviewers. They actually get paid quite handsomely in Hamster Tokens, but are sworn to secrecy about the whole thing and will claim to be unpaid. Quote Link to comment
+goldpot Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) Scotland North-Alba15 Scotland South-Alba15 North East England--Alba15 & Deceangi North West England---Alba15 & Deceangi Yorkshire and Humberside---Alba15 & Deceangi East Midlands-Antheia West Midlands-Chiastiolite North Wales-Deceangi South Wales-Chiastiolite South West England- Graculus Southern England- Graculus South East England-Deceangi Isle of Man-Deceangi Malta-Deceangi Gibraltar-Deceangi Guernsey-Antheia Jersey-Antheia The Bee Keeper--sssss--Steve has an easy job!!! Edited February 19, 2010 by goldpot Quote Link to comment
+mtn-man Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Boy, Deci has a much better contract than I do. I had to work Christmas. Quote Link to comment
+Graculus Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 How do you find the time? Plus isn't that too much workload for one person? Totally dedicated to the job. Always on line, even when out on Bodmin Moor I have my laptop ready to publish caches. Of course I have a full time day job too! But that just gets in the way Chris Graculus Volunteer UK Reviewer - geocaching.com UK Geocaching Information & Resourcs site http://www.follow-the-arrow.co.uk/resources/ Quote Link to comment
Deceangi Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Scotland North-Alba15Scotland South-Alba15 North East England--Alba15 & Deceangi North West England---Alba15 & Deceangi Yorkshire and Humberside---Alba15 & Deceangi East Midlands-Antheia West Midlands-Chiastiolite North Wales-Deceangi South Wales-Chiastiolite South West England- Graculus Southern England- Graculus South East England-Deceangi Isle of Man-Deceangi Malta-Deceangi Gibraltar-Deceangi Guernsey-Antheia Jersey-Antheia The Bee Keeper--sssss--Steve has an easy job!!! I've edited the post sorry Steve Boy, Deci has a much better contract than I do. I had to work Christmas. 2009 I had no caches for Christmas Day , now 2008, I sat in a Freezing cold car on Christmas Eve, outside the nearest McD's to my parents house [we spend Christmas stopping there] using their free WIFI to publish a huge series. Did you know that when they close for the day, they turn off their free WIFI . I found out the hard way at 21:00 on the dot , half way through publishing the series . I finished of publishing the series on Boxing Day again outside the same McD's [my 3 dongle wouldn't make a connection until late afternoon Boxing day (presumably when the credit I'd put on it, on Christmas Eve went through) As for having the Time, well I'm at Home all day. As I'm a carer for 3 members of my family. Reviewing keeps me sane . Plus with 3 colleagues coming on during 2009, my workload went down a tad Deci Quote Link to comment
+Birdman-of-liskatraz Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 How do you find the time? Plus isn't that too much workload for one person? Totally dedicated to the job. Always on line, even when out on Bodmin Moor I have my laptop ready to publish caches. Of course I have a full time day job too! But that just gets in the way Chris Graculus Volunteer UK Reviewer - geocaching.com UK Geocaching Information & Resourcs site http://www.follow-the-arrow.co.uk/resources/ yet... June 28, 2009 by Deceangi (5 found) I see Mrs B's Hamster Cache Promotion Tour is working well View This Log Quote Link to comment
+sssss Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 The Bee Keeper--sssss--Steve has an easy job!!! That is only because all my cache owners (especially goldpot) are all so wonderful that they have read and fully digested the gc.com and uk guidelines for all their cache submissions and are such jolly good eggs. So I have very little to do. Oh and also because London is nearly full and the only space left is in the royal parks and that is a no go area. Easy Quote Link to comment
+Unobtainium Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 You have so little to do, you have time to wait around at bonus caches and offer help those who seek it. It was good to meet you yesterday, keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment
+currykev Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Seems that Alba15 has encroached on the SE caches. But I'll let him off as my now archived cache states..... N 51° 32.073 W 000° 12.466 Other Conversions British Grid: TQ 24404 83265 NE NE 3.5km from your home coordinates In Northern Scotland, United Kingdom I'll mainly be wearing no pants tonight as a Southern Softy protest. Quote Link to comment
+Team Noodles Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 The Bee Keeper--sssss--Steve has an easy job!!! That is only because all my cache owners (especially goldpot) are all so wonderful that they have read and fully digested the gc.com and uk guidelines for all their cache submissions and are such jolly good eggs. So I have very little to do. Oh and also because London is nearly full and the only space left is in the royal parks and that is a no go area. Easy clicky So not true!!! Lotsa space Quote Link to comment
+Munkeh Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 The Bee Keeper--sssss--Steve has an easy job!!! That is only because all my cache owners (especially goldpot) are all so wonderful that they have read and fully digested the gc.com and uk guidelines for all their cache submissions and are such jolly good eggs. So I have very little to do. Oh and also because London is nearly full and the only space left is in the royal parks and that is a no go area. Easy clicky So not true!!! Lotsa space thats just cache promotion Quote Link to comment
+sssss Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 You have so little to do, you have time to wait around at bonus caches and offer help those who seek it. That was a free sample of what you can have with Platinum Membership Quote Link to comment
+Team Noodles Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 thats just cache promotion Of course it is Quote Link to comment
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