+Tresco Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I really like geocaching. I don't mind bumpy back roads. I like to get dirty. Long hikes on difficult routes are my thing. Snakes don't bother me. Tough trails or no trails are no problem. I eat this stuff up.What I don't like are caches that are "not at the posted coordinates". I don't want to solve puzzles with clues that tell me where to look. I want good reasonably accurate coords. Every GPS unit is a little bit different so your cords are not going to match mine exactly anyway. Why the extra grief? It used to be just a few caches were like this but now it is getting hard to find a straight-up cache that does not require "cute" extra bells and whistles. Quote Link to comment
+OzzieSan Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Are you kidding? 17 finds and your out of caches other than puzzle caches? It looks like about a dozen others just in Vasquez Rocks Parks. Quote Link to comment
+tozainamboku Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Are you kidding? 17 finds and your out of caches other than puzzle caches? It looks like about a dozen others just in Vasquez Rocks Parks. Hey, my cache in Vasquez Rocks Park is a puzzle cache Quote Link to comment
+paulandstacey Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 You don't have to find them all. Don't like puzzles? Ignore 'em. Quote Link to comment
+OzzieSan Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 (edited) Hey, my cache in Vasquez Rocks Park is a puzzle cache Yep. Plus one earth cache and 16 traditional caches (1 inactive). Edited July 19, 2008 by OzzieSan Quote Link to comment
+Tresco Posted July 19, 2008 Author Share Posted July 19, 2008 Sounds like a good excuse to head out to Vasquez rocks again. I can take Beaulah, the Geo Mule. Thanx. Quote Link to comment
+John H Watson Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I really like geocaching. I don't mind bumpy back roads. I like to get dirty. Long hikes on difficult routes are my thing. Snakes don't bother me. Tough trails or no trails are no problem. I eat this stuff up.What I don't like are caches that are "not at the posted coordinates". I don't want to solve puzzles with clues that tell me where to look. I want good reasonably accurate coords. Every GPS unit is a little bit different so your cords are not going to match mine exactly anyway. Why the extra grief? It used to be just a few caches were like this but now it is getting hard to find a straight-up cache that does not require "cute" extra bells and whistles. Different people like different challenges. I'm heading to Portland in a few hours and I am presently downloading all the puzzles and multis in the area. There are some interesting ones based upon the board game "Clue", as well as some "Inspector Gadget" hides involving some tools that you must find. I'm an asphalt guy who doesn't like poison oak and snakes. Quote Link to comment
+J Loran Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 We started out geocaching disliking Puzzles & Micros, but with more experience these became our favorites. Even a so-so hide becomes enjoyable when you have to work at it a bit. Quote Link to comment
CoyoteRed Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I really like geocaching. I don't mind bumpy back roads. I like to get dirty. Long hikes on difficult routes are my thing. Snakes don't bother me. Tough trails or no trails are no problem. I eat this stuff up.What I don't like are caches that are "not at the posted coordinates". I don't want to solve puzzles with clues that tell me where to look. I want good reasonably accurate coords. Every GPS unit is a little bit different so your cords are not going to match mine exactly anyway. Why the extra grief? It used to be just a few caches were like this but now it is getting hard to find a straight-up cache that does not require "cute" extra bells and whistles. I'm not sure what you're saying. You don't like anything other than traditionals? Or is it you don't like when folks post soft coordinates? If it non-traditional caches you're complaining about then you're complaining about something that essential to what some folks think of as treasure hunting. The classic follow the map to the "X" or solve a riddle types like Indiana Jones or National Treasure movies is the bread and butter of some folks' adventures. You'd hate letterboxing. If it's soft coordinates--coordinates that aren't that accurate--then I think most would agree. If one is looking to make finding a cache a challenge then intentionally posted "off" coordinates is not the way to do it. In fact, get a reputation for doing so and you'll more likely have your caches ignored simply because of who you are. Quote Link to comment
+ventura_kids Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 (edited) I have found that normally a group of caches in an area can be attributed to a certain cacher. So if all the caches with poor coords are from one cacher, this should be quite simple. You should be able to skip those by reading who hid the ones you don't like, and IGNORE all the caches from that hider. Edited July 19, 2008 by ventura_kids Quote Link to comment
Motorcycle_Mama Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I agree that Traditionals should be Traditionals with no extra puzzles, clues, ALRs, etc. needed once you get to the posted coordinates. I have no problem with people hiding (or seeking) puzzle or mystery caches but they should be listed as such. Quote Link to comment
+chuckwagon101 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 We started out geocaching disliking Puzzles & Micros, but with more experience these became our favorites. Even a so-so hide becomes enjoyable when you have to work at it a bit. Not me! I'm a "BIG pile of sticks under the BIG tree in the middle of the BIG field" kinda guy! Geocaching........something for everyone! Quote Link to comment
+Mudfrog Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I agree that Traditionals should be Traditionals with no extra puzzles, clues, ALRs, etc. needed once you get to the posted coordinates. I have no problem with people hiding (or seeking) puzzle or mystery caches but they should be listed as such. I would bet that this doesn't happen too often these days. Reviewers, well our's n Texas at least, keep a pretty good eye for things like this and will question the cache owner to make sure the cache is listed appropriately... As far as puzzles go,, we really enjoy the majority of them but i will admit that some have certainly given me a headache. Quote Link to comment
+Save The Murlocs Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I like puzzle caches. Only done a couple so far, but they're a good fun extra challenge. Do what you enjoy most. Quote Link to comment
+wapahani Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 I don't really like puzzle caches either. I've got a few solved, found 1 so far, can see another but can't get it yet. I say I, but it should be we. The wife likes the traditional cache and being the family stuff, we do those. Unless I solve a puzzle cache and we get it when we are in that area. A few of the family caches I have out (5 total) none of them let the coords take you right to the cache. Why? Because no 2 GPS's will take you right to the spot. So you get a hint that will get you right there. Its not a puzzle because it tells you. I've only found 1 cache in my area that was spot on the GPS. All the rest leave a small clue to their location. Example, the GPS takes you close to a tree, the clue says 5 to 10 south of tree, you walk 5 to 10 feet south of tree and there it is.... To me that is fun. Running right to the COORDS takes some of the game out of it. Quote Link to comment
+dctalk007 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Stop complaining there is plenty of normal caches around, if you don't like puzzles then stay away from them like I do. I also hate puzzles but i don't complain and i have almost 500 finds Quote Link to comment
Motorcycle_Mama Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Yes, but I believe what the OP is saying is that he caches are listed as Traditionals, but once he gets there, there's something else (a puzzle, an off-set, an ALR, or something) needed in order to find/log the cache. Quote Link to comment
+Miragee Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 When I took a trip north to Death Valley a few years ago, I ran into this on several older caches along the way. They were listed as Traditional caches, but were, in fact, Offsets. I DNF'd one because I looked for it at the coordinates instead of reading the long, detailed description in my Palm. When I am traveling, I usually don't put Multis or ALRs into my GPSr because I frequently just stop, look for the cache at the coordinates, and continue down the road. If I ever got in the habit of reading the entire cache description before looking for a cache, this wouldn't be a problem . . . but after all this time I haven't been able to cultivate that habit . . . If I lived in an area where this was commonplace, I would probably contact the local Reviewer to have those caches reclassified as or . Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 What I don't like are caches that are "not at the posted coordinates". I don't want to solve puzzles with clues that tell me where to look You're a premium member so you can just put these on your ignore list, or if you are running pocket queries you can easily filter them out. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment
+Mudfrog Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yes, but I believe what the OP is saying is that he caches are listed as Traditionals, but once he gets there, there's something else (a puzzle, an off-set, an ALR, or something) needed in order to find/log the cache. I didn't take it that this was what the OP was running into but you may be right. There's no doubt that there are a few misclassified caches placed but unless they are granfathered somehow, they're listed wrong and need be changed to show the proper cache type. Of course changing a cache's type would mess with it's finders' history so would be difficult to implement. Not sure what the best solution for this would be... Quote Link to comment
+Tresco Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 Look, I've got nothing against puzzle caches. They are just not what I'm looking for right now. Quote Link to comment
+Cedar Grove Seekers Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Tresco, for clarification, is your issue with inaccurate coordinates, or with certain types of caches (i.e multis, puzzles, letterboxes)? Quote Link to comment
+Tresco Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 I like traditional caches. Quote Link to comment
+Snoogans Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) Look, I've got nothing against puzzle caches. They are just not what I'm looking for right now. So your OP is a troll to get people to flame you? Does someone need attention? Edited July 21, 2008 by Snoogans Quote Link to comment
+Tresco Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 Look, I've got nothing against puzzle caches. They are just not what I'm looking for right now. So your OP is a troll to get people to flame you? Does someone need attention? Yeah man and you're killing my buzz. Don't hassle me. I'm just trying to connect with people. Why don't you harsh someone's mellow on the crapper cache thread. Man, I did'nt expect the Spanish Inquisition... LOL Quote Link to comment
+Bulldograce Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Yeah man and you're killing my buzz. Don't hassle me. I'm just trying to connect with people. Why don't you harsh someone's mellow on the crapper cache thread. Man, I did'nt expect the Spanish Inquisition...LOL Don't bring me into this.... My "Mellow" is doing just fine. Quote Link to comment
+wesleykey Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) Look, I've got nothing against puzzle caches. They are just not what I'm looking for right now. So your OP is a troll to get people to flame you? Does someone need attention? Yeah man and you're killing my buzz. Don't hassle me. I'm just trying to connect with people. Why don't you harsh someone's mellow on the crapper cache thread. Man, I did'nt expect the Spanish Inquisition... LOL You have 17 finds to your name and you are already in the forums complaining? As a premium member you can IGNORE a cache listing or run a PQ and filter out cache types you do not wish to seek. If you need help with either of these, ask and we will lead you through the steps. Edited July 22, 2008 by wesleykey Quote Link to comment
+Bulldograce Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 You know Tresco here is something to ponder considering you mentioned the "Crapper Cache"..... Assuming that you are caching near your home. You and I are only about 40 miles from each other. In my immediate area I get traditional caches stuck down in crap (literally), hidden in a used "Wendy's" baked potato container, a dump site that's in a swamp, many debris piles and anywhere that transients live. We don't have many that lead you to a nice or interesting spot. Have a few, but not many. You on the other hand you have some cachers out there, that care about quality. A good example is "Kit Fox". I really appreciate the time and EFFORT he puts forth. If I may suggest; Stickier than a Gummy Worm on a hot dashboard! GC171ZN This is a good example of the "Thrill of the Hunt" No puzzle and the cords are correct. It's even dog friendly! Give it a try and let us know if you enjoyed it.... So next time your on your soapbox, consider what you have available. Many of us are not so lucky. Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 (edited) I like traditional caches. I'm beginning to wander if his issues spawn from his DNF on my puzzle cache. There isn't any trash near my geocache, but the listed coords are for a road with a bit of dumping. Edited July 23, 2008 by Kit Fox Quote Link to comment
+Tresco Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 I apologize for offending you guys with my OP. I was not trolling, just frustrated. Quote Link to comment
+rjb43nh Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Tresco-"Man, I did'nt expect the Spanish Inquisition..." Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Quote Link to comment
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