Cache Contents Rules Question

[DaggersRule]

I heard about Geocaching over a year ago, but didn't really look into it until last week. I love the concept and have found my first few caches; I also have a new GPS on order and am looking forward to getting fully involved in this exciting hobby/sport.

One thing that disappionted me while going through the caching guidelines, however, was the rules involving contents, saying that caches including certain items may not be published. I'd discussed with several friends on a fishing trip to a remote area of northern Saskatchewan (Canada) the idea of 'Geocaching' several spots in the area with little 'airplane size' bottles of booze and Cuban cigars. I'm not out to corrupt anyones children, and would never place a cache of this nature in a public park, along an easily accessed hiking trail, etc. Basically the only people that would have the opportunity to locate such a cache would be doing the same thing we were, and I thought this would be a more exciting treasure to find for some people out for a fishing vacation than a box of dollar store trinkets.

I will do far more conventional caching (and finding) than anything of this nature, it just bugs me that we could go through the trouble of placing such a hidden gem in the middle of nowhere only to have it go unpublished and not located by anyone but ourselves.

I would, of course, divulge the contents of the cache on the posting and state that it may not be the appropriate one to look for if you're taking a boy scout troop on a week-long canoe venture.

At the very least, if there's no way that geocaching.com would publish the placement of such a cache, are there any similar sites that would?

Thanks for your help.

[Cache Whisperer]

It'd never be published here, but I'd definitely hit it if it did.

[+DaFunkyFrogs]

Dollar store trinkets aren't the only other option besides booze and smokes.......

If you use your imagination, I'm sure you could think of hundreds of other items just as interesting, but more acceptable, to the guidelines.

[+ChileHead]

Why not add some porno and condoms while you're at it?

 

People can find booze anywhere they want. Why add it to a cache? I like my booze as much as anybody. But I have no desire to find it in a cache, and I certainly would NEVER drink anything I found in a box out in the woods.

[CoyoteRed]

There are other sites that might list it. You won't get as many visits, but then again, being out in the middle of nowhere the cache won't be getting hit much anyway.

[DaggersRule]

Why not add some porno and condoms while you're at it?

 

 

Great Idea! I hadn't thought of that. Now we've got some people thinking outside the box!

[+wapahani]

Why not add some porno and condoms while you're at it?

 

 

Great Idea! I hadn't thought of that. Now we've got some people thinking outside the box!

 

There are many things you can place in the cache.

I've oriented mine to be based on what the cache location is.

There isn't need for stuff like what you listed in the cache.

Think of it as if a kid would open it.

[+Shop99er]

Short answer---It wouldn't be published. Remember the "family friendly" part of the guidelines.

[+StarBrand]

Use your imagination a bit. You can think of something better than that - and have it fit the guidelines.

 

For example, I niether drink nor smoke so would have no use for your cache at 42 years of age.

[CLV3]

You mention fishing. How about fishing accessories? I would LOVE to find a cache with fishing accessories in it.

 

Not that there is anything wrong with alcohol. However, if you put it in a cache....kids WILL find it. Then you might as well be buying alcohol for minors and I am sure there WOULD be liability issues.

 

Honestly, it would NOT be a very intelligent or responsible decision.

[Cache Whisperer]

I was more interested in the Cuban stogies.

[+jbhodj & Drake]

I was more interested in the Cuban stogies.

 

Great question, why would you put cuban cigars in a very remote cache. I will gladly trade you some nice geo coins as FTF prizes for the stogies. They dont have a chance in the wild, all alone! They are better off in my humidor.

[CLV3]

You mention fishing. How about fishing accessories? I would LOVE to find a cache with fishing accessories in it.

 

Not that there is anything wrong with alcohol. However, if you put it in a cache....kids WILL find it. Then you might as well be buying alcohol for minors and I am sure there WOULD be liability issues.

 

Honestly, it would NOT be a very intelligent or responsible decision.

 

 

sorry for the double post. my connection went for a moment so I did not see that it had posted.

Edited June 17, 2008 by CLV3

[+briansnat]

When I placed my first cache I put a few very good cigars in it. I'm not sure if the no tobacco rule was in effect then, or if I just didn't know about it, but I did mention the cigars on the cache page. I used one of those vacuum food sealers to keep them dry. A year later I went back for a maint trip and the cigars were still there. My own supply was getting low so I grabbed them, not expecting much. A year in a cache is not good for a cigar.

 

I opened one up and was surprised to find that it was still moist and quite smokable. The vacuum sealed package actually kept them in good condition.

 

That said, the rules say no tobacco and no booze. It's a good rule simply because if parks found out that our caches contained that kind of stuff, parks would ban geocaching faster than you can say "Cohiba and Cognac".

 

Someone mentioned fishing related stuff. Lures, line and terminal tackle are all great items. I've placed that stuff in my own caches. Other things like packs of insect repellent wipes, mylar emergency blankets, survival whistles and compasses are great things to place in a cache like that.

 

Also, before placing a cache like the one you propose, make sure you read the guidelines, paying close attention to the sections on cache maintenance and vacation caches.

[+Bob & Ann]

For the purposes you are describing, I'd put some really nice lures or flies in. Perhaps a unique one you've created - almost a signature item.

[+ZSandmann]

Nice spinners and lures in old medicine bottle in a cache are great swag! The bottle protects the lure and you as you reach in to see what's in the box.

[+skisidedown]

Nice spinners and lures in old medicine bottle in a cache are great swag! The bottle protects the lure and you as you reach in to see what's in the box.

I have been using lures in all the caches that I placed - sort of a trademark I guess - but only new ones in packaging. No old, rusty things in the cache, and most importantly, no sharp hooks exposed to poke into fingers. I never thought of pill bottles. That would allow me to buy multi-packs of lures and use them individually.

Skisidedown

[+Totem Clan]

When I lived in Alaska I would drop some of my hand-tied flies in the caches. They were in plastic bag so they didn't 'hook' anyone.

[Trinity's Crew]

A year later I went back for a maint trip and the cigars were still there. My own supply was getting low so I grabbed them, not expecting much. A year in a cache is not good for a cigar. I opened one up and was surprised to find that it was still moist and quite smokable. The vacuum sealed package actually kept them in good condition.

So is a year in a cache NOT good for a cigar or did they actually survive pretty much intact? Not that it really matters since tobacco is banned, but I was a little confused by your post.

EDIT: Spelling.

Edited June 18, 2008 by Trinity's Crew

[+briansnat]

A year later I went back for a maint trip and the cigars were still there. My own supply was getting low so I grabbed them, not expecting much. A year in a cache is not good for a cigar. I opened one up and was surprised to find that it was still moist and quite smokable. The vacuum sealed package actually kept them in good condition.

So is a year in a cache NOT good for a cigar or did they actually survive pretty much intact? Not that it really matters since tobacco is banned, but I was a little confused by your post.

EDIT: Spelling.

 

Under normal circumstances a year in a cache would not be good for a cigar. Actually a few days wouldn't be good in hot, dry weather. But the fact that they were vacuum sealed seemed to preserve them nicely.

[Trinity's Crew]

A year later I went back for a maint trip and the cigars were still there. My own supply was getting low so I grabbed them, not expecting much. A year in a cache is not good for a cigar. I opened one up and was surprised to find that it was still moist and quite smokable. The vacuum sealed package actually kept them in good condition.

So is a year in a cache NOT good for a cigar or did they actually survive pretty much intact? Not that it really matters since tobacco is banned, but I was a little confused by your post.

EDIT: Spelling.

 

Under normal circumstances a year in a cache would not be good for a cigar. Actually a few days wouldn't be good in hot, dry weather. But the fact that they were vacuum sealed seemed to preserve them nicely.

Thanks for the clarification. I have no immediate plans to vacuum seal cigars, but it's nice to know that they held up under what were probably pretty harsh conditions.

Edited June 18, 2008 by Trinity's Crew