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Sorry if I missed it in this thread, but is there a direct link to upload data? I cannot attach a file through the board emailer app, so if you want to message me, Moun10Bike, I can reply to that mail with the .gpx file.

 

Its just a small set of trails in a nature park in Abbotsford, B.C. collected with a Colorado, on 4 separate occasions, manually averaged in mapsource.

 

The email address for data contributions is info@switchbacks.com.

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Northwest Trails v1.36 is now available on the Northwest Trails Page. Since I start my new job tomorrow, I thought it best that I get out his release while I can!

 

Enjoy!

 

Version 1.36
(March 23, 2009)

 

  • Removed non-existent trail paralleling George Washington Way in Richland, WA

  • Corrected a trail juntion in Jenkins Creek Park from info supplied by
    Dwoodford
    (Covington, WA)

  • Added dirt roads in the Lost Creek basin in the Priest Lake area (ID)

  • Added paved trail around storm water retention pond ("Lake Landro") in the Issaquah Highlands (WA)

  • Adjusted several trails in Soaring Eagle Park (Sammamish, WA) using new GPS data

  • Added junction markers for Soaring Eagle Park (Sammamish, WA) originally provided by
    dsvaughn

  • Data courtesy of
    The Jester
    :
    • Confirmation of and adjustments to the Licorice Fern Trail on Cougar Mountain (near Bellevue, WA)

    • Confirmation of several other trails on Cougar Mountain

    • Confirmation of and corrections and additions to trails around Cedar Mountain/Lake Desire (Renton, WA)

    • Small neighborhood trail in Kent, WA

    • South Fork Snoqualmie River levee trail and adjoining trail system (North Bend, WA)

    • Olympic View Park (Federal Way, WA)

    • Gravel trail near Stonehaven Apartments (Federal Way, WA)

    • Verification of and additional trails in West Hylebos Wetlands Park (Federal Way, WA)

    • Trail system near the West Valley Highway off of 61st Ave S and 63rd Pl S (Federal Way, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    hydnsek
    :

    • Mirrormont Park (near Issaquah, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    Shaggy, Scooby, and Velma
    :

    • The Falls Park & Trails (adjacent to Willis D. Tucker Park near Cathcart, WA)

    • Verification of the Seattle City Light Power Line in Bridle Trails State Park (Kirkland, WA)

    • Additional portions of the Hansville Greenway Trail (Hansville, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    caveyeti
    :

    • Bruneau Dunes State Park (near Mountain Home, ID)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    B+L
    :

    • A new trail and adjustments to others in Vashon Island Center Forest (WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    FunnyNose
    :

    • Trail off Diagonal Ave. by Terminal 108 (Seattle, WA)

    • Interlaken Park (Seattle, WA)

    • Laurelhurst Park (Seattle, WA)

    • Queen Anne greenspace trail system (Seattle, WA)

    • Roanoke Park (Seattle, WA)

    • Paved trail/staircase near the Magnolia Bridge (Seattle, WA)

    • Paved trail to Terminal 105 viewpoint (Seattle, WA)

    • Trail near the juntion of Southcenter Pkwy and S 178th St (Tukwila, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    jholly
    :

    • Additional trails in the Buck Lake area (near Hansville, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of John Viveiros:

    • Additional trails in High Drive Parkway (Spokane, WA)

    • Trail 401 in Riverside State Park (Spokane, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    Ichabod
    :

    • Additional Powell Butte trails (near Portland, OR)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    lucyandrickie
    :

    • Verification of and adjustment to various trails in Soaring Eagle Park (Sammamish, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    savant9
    :

    • Hogan Family Nature Park (Abbotsford, BC)

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Current update is now in DeLorme format at http://www.totemlake.org/downloads.htm .

 

I didn't convert the waypoints and shapes this time but they are still in text format for download at the same location.

Thanks for posting these! I've been using the text format so I can adjust the appearance of the trails in Street Atlas to my liking.

 

And also thanks to all involved in the Northwest Trails Project. These maps are priceless.

 

Edited for spelling.

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Northwest Trails v1.37 is now available on the Northwest Trails Page. There is some good stuff in this version: most of the roads and a large portion of the trails in the Pilchuck Tree Farm near Stanwood, WA; most of the road and trail network between Dishman Hills and Iller Creek Conservation Area near Spokane, WA; and complete coverage of Dash Point State Park in Federal Way, WA. All this plus additional submissions from around the Northwest including Washington, British Columbia, Idaho and Oregon.

 

Enjoy!

 

Jon

Version 1.37
(April 9, 2009)

 

  • Added some of the roads and trails in the expansive network between Dishman Hills and Tower Mountain from aerial imagery (near Spokane, WA)

  • Updated and tweaked some trails in the Banner Forest (Banner, WA) from info posted at
    MTBR.com
    and to which
    B+L
    directed me

  • Added roads and trails of Pilchuck Tree Farm (near Stanwood, WA) using aerial imagery, GPS data, and PDF and shapefiles provided by
    FARM GIRL

  • Added a missing portion of the BPA Trail (Federal Way, WA) using aerial imagery

  • Data courtesy of
    lucyandrickie
    :
    • Waterside trail in Washington Park (Anacortes, WA)

    • Future waterside trail in Anacortes, WA

    • Verification of and adjustment to several trails in Carkeek Park (Seattle, WA)

    • Verification of and adjustment to the Mt. Walker Trail (near Quilcene, WA)

    • Additional trails in the Pilchuck Tree Farm (near Arlington, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    The Jester
    :

    • Complete coverage of Dash Point State Park (Federal Way, WA)

    • Additional trails in Game Farm Park (Auburn, WA)

    • Confirmation of trails in Game Farm Wilderness Park (Auburn, WA)

    • Confirmation of and additional portions of road and trail along the White River (Auburn, WA)

    • Poverty Bay Park (Federal Way, WA)

    • Unnamed trail/road system near Poverty Bay (Federal Way, WA)

    • Petrovitsky Park (Renton, WA)

    • Dumas Bay Center (Federal Way, WA)

    • Dumas Bay Park (Federal Way, WA)

    • Adelaide Park (Federal Way, WA)

    • Palisades Park (Federal Way, WA)

    • A section of the BPA Trail (Federal Way, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    EraSeek
    :

    • Tolmie State Park (near Olympia, WA)

    • Portion of the Cross-Island Trail (Camano Island, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    Shaggy, Scooby, and Velma
    :

    • Verification of and additions to Hansville Greenway and Community Trails (Hansville, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    GeoBobC
    :

    • Dirt road on Tiger Mountain leading from SE 163rd Pl. to Hobart Gap (near Hobart, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    Team Yeti
    :

    • Backside Trail in Cathedral Hills Park (near Grants Pass, OR)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of John Viveiros:

    • Additional data and adjustments to Dishman Hills trails (Spokane, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    caveyeti
    :

    • Additional trail and trailhead in Hagerman Fossil Beds (near Hagerman, ID)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    MaliBooBoo
    :

    • Old Alexandria Bridge Trail (near Hope, BC)

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Data courtesy of The Jester:

  • Complete coverage of Dash Point State Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Additional trails in Game Farm Park (Auburn, WA)
  • Confirmation of trails in Game Farm Wilderness Park (Auburn, WA)
  • Confirmation of and additional portions of road and trail along the White River (Auburn, WA)
  • Poverty Bay Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Unnamed trail/road system near Poverty Bay (Federal Way, WA)
  • Petrovitsky Park (Renton, WA)
  • Dumas Bay Center (Federal Way, WA)
  • Dumas Bay Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Adelaide Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Palisades Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • A section of the BPA Trail (Federal Way, WA)

Go, Jester! I noticed last year that NWT had very little data from the South Sound area. I hadn't managed to get back down there, so glad he's on the case! ;)

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Data courtesy of The Jester:

  • Complete coverage of Dash Point State Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Additional trails in Game Farm Park (Auburn, WA)
  • Confirmation of trails in Game Farm Wilderness Park (Auburn, WA)
  • Confirmation of and additional portions of road and trail along the White River (Auburn, WA)
  • Poverty Bay Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Unnamed trail/road system near Poverty Bay (Federal Way, WA)
  • Petrovitsky Park (Renton, WA)
  • Dumas Bay Center (Federal Way, WA)
  • Dumas Bay Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Adelaide Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Palisades Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • A section of the BPA Trail (Federal Way, WA)

Go, Jester! I noticed last year that NWT had very little data from the South Sound area. I hadn't managed to get back down there, so glad he's on the case! ;)

Thanks! It's one of the things that has helped me lose 70+ pounds in the last year. I started off with a light 12-15 pound lumbar pack and have increased to a 55 pound pack, which I hardly notice now when I'm wearing it (with it, I'm still lighter than I was a year ago!). Because of this, I'm in the best shape I've been since my teens (maybe even better).

 

I'm getting as bad about trails as I used to be about cache sites. Now as I drive by woods I'm looking for trails to map, not places to hide caches... Of course, I do have a couple of ideas for cache hides - one on a trail I've mapped, but NOT sent to Jon ... yet! I've found a couple of places in Federal Way that I need to check out - which can be dangerous, sometimes what looks like a simple trail or two ends up with many miles of trail (such as Maplewood Park in the Renton Highlands).

 

It's been a lot of fun, and now when people are (hopefully using the maps) hiding new caches around here, I have a easy time finding them (either I remember the trails, or I'm following the map). And big thanks go to Jon for starting and keeping this project going!

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I love hearing the positive stories that have come out of this project! :laughing:

 

I wanted to mention something that I forgot to regarding the Pilchuck Tree Farm data in version 1.37. That data came from a PDF and shapefiles that in turn had come from GPS data. However, the data had been massaged at some point in the past and did not line up with the aerial and road imagery I have - some places were accurate, others were shifted by as much as 250 feet or so. The roads should all be accurate now as I adjusted them to match the aerial imagery; the trails do not show up in the trees the same way, so I had to adjust those based on the roads around them. The short story is that the trails could be off by a significant amount; accurate GPS data for them and everything else is (as always) needed and appreciated!

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Data courtesy of The Jester:[/color]

  • Complete coverage of Dash Point State Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Additional trails in Game Farm Park (Auburn, WA)
  • Confirmation of trails in Game Farm Wilderness Park (Auburn, WA)
  • Confirmation of and additional portions of road and trail along the White River (Auburn, WA)
  • Poverty Bay Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Unnamed trail/road system near Poverty Bay (Federal Way, WA)
  • Petrovitsky Park (Renton, WA)
  • Dumas Bay Center (Federal Way, WA)
  • Dumas Bay Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Adelaide Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Palisades Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • A section of the BPA Trail (Federal Way, WA)

[*]

 

Jester, I think you missed a couple of trails.

 

We were down in OR this last weekend and we actually found a couple of trails that you HAD NOT WALKED and uploaded the data for.

 

You'd better get on the stick! :rolleyes:

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Data courtesy of The Jester:[/color]

  • Complete coverage of Dash Point State Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Additional trails in Game Farm Park (Auburn, WA)
  • Confirmation of trails in Game Farm Wilderness Park (Auburn, WA)
  • Confirmation of and additional portions of road and trail along the White River (Auburn, WA)
  • Poverty Bay Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Unnamed trail/road system near Poverty Bay (Federal Way, WA)
  • Petrovitsky Park (Renton, WA)
  • Dumas Bay Center (Federal Way, WA)
  • Dumas Bay Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Adelaide Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Palisades Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • A section of the BPA Trail (Federal Way, WA)

[*]

 

Jester, I think you missed a couple of trails.

 

We were down in OR this last weekend and we actually found a couple of trails that you HAD NOT WALKED and uploaded the data for.

 

You'd better get on the stick! :rolleyes:

Where are the TH's? I'll get them the next time I'm in the area... :lol:

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Data courtesy of The Jester:[/color]

  • Complete coverage of Dash Point State Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Additional trails in Game Farm Park (Auburn, WA)
  • Confirmation of trails in Game Farm Wilderness Park (Auburn, WA)
  • Confirmation of and additional portions of road and trail along the White River (Auburn, WA)
  • Poverty Bay Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Unnamed trail/road system near Poverty Bay (Federal Way, WA)
  • Petrovitsky Park (Renton, WA)
  • Dumas Bay Center (Federal Way, WA)
  • Dumas Bay Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Adelaide Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • Palisades Park (Federal Way, WA)
  • A section of the BPA Trail (Federal Way, WA)

[*]

 

Jester, I think you missed a couple of trails.

 

We were down in OR this last weekend and we actually found a couple of trails that you HAD NOT WALKED and uploaded the data for.

 

You'd better get on the stick! :rolleyes:

Where are the TH's? I'll get them the next time I'm in the area... :lol:

 

Heheh, I know of a trail or two that you haven't mapped yet either!

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Jester, I think you missed a couple of trails.

 

We were down in OR this last weekend and we actually found a couple of trails that you HAD NOT WALKED and uploaded the data for.

 

You'd better get on the stick! :lol:

Where are the TH's? I'll get them the next time I'm in the area... :mad:

 

Heheh, I know of a trail or two that you haven't mapped yet either!

Why haven't you mapped them yourself? Do I have to do all the work? :rolleyes:

 

BTW, I know of a few trails I haven't mapped yet myself. How does that song from the Mikado go ... "I have a little list..." :anicute:

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Jester, I think you missed a couple of trails.

 

We were down in OR this last weekend and we actually found a couple of trails that you HAD NOT WALKED and uploaded the data for.

 

You'd better get on the stick! :lol:

Where are the TH's? I'll get them the next time I'm in the area... :anicute:

 

Heheh, I know of a trail or two that you haven't mapped yet either!

Why haven't you mapped them yourself? Do I have to do all the work? :rolleyes:

 

BTW, I know of a few trails I haven't mapped yet myself. How does that song from the Mikado go ... "I have a little list..." <_<

 

I have my constraints, you know. :mad: They are on my to do list.

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Northwest Trails v1.38 is now available for download from the Northwest Trails page. Spring seems to finally be here and there were a number of new submissions for this revision. Enjoy!

 

 

Version 1.38 (April 24, 2009)

 

  • Corrected the names of some of the roads on East Tiger Mountain (near Issaquah, WA) after errors pointed out by Bill Davis
  • Added sections of the Columbia River Trail in Richland, WA from aerial imagery
  • Added trail data for Indian Point (including Herman Bridge Trail, Nick Eaton Trail, and Gorton Creek Trail) near Bridge of the Gods, OR from data available at MotionBased.com
  • Added Round Top Trail (Pullman, WA) from GPS data
  • Added Palouse Falls State Park (near Washtucna, WA) from GPS data
  • Made some corrections to the Bill Chipman Palouse Trail (Pullman, WA - Moscow, ID) and Paradise Trail (Moscow, ID)
  • Data courtesy of Forty-n-Eight:
    • Trail up to Ship Peak on Turtle Mountain (Orcas Island, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of lucyandrickie:

    • Verification of some Jetty Island trails (near Everett, WA)
    • Juanita Beach Park (Juanita, WA)
    • Verification of some roads and trails in the Pilchuck Tree Farm (near Stanwood, WA)
    • Verification of and adjustment to some trails in the Redmond Watershed (Redmond, WA)
    • Verification of some trails in Juanita Bay Park (Kirkland, WA)
    • Beach access trail near Sequim, WA
    • New trailhead parking area at the north end of the East Lake Sammamish Trail (Redmond, WA)
    • Ebright Park (Sammamish, WA)
    • Verification of and adjustments to Grand Ridge trails (Issaquah, WA)
    • Verification of Issaquah Highlands trails (Issaquah, WA)
    • Trails in Miller Peninsula State Park (Miller Peninsula, WA)
    • Trails and roads near Lily Lake on Chuckanut Mountain (near Bow, WA)
    • Samish Bay beach access trail (Samish Island, WA)
    • Confirmation of some logging roads near Hansville, WA
    • Confirmation of some logging roads near Port Gamble, WA
    • Confirmation of and adjustments to the Buck Lake Trail (near Hansville, WA)
    • Confirmation of some trails at Fort Ebey State Park (Whidbey Island, WA)
    • Confirmation of and adjustments to trails in Kettles Park (Whidbey Island, WA)
    • Verification of the Nature Conservancy Trail (Kitsap Peninsula, WA)
    • Confirmation of the Point No Point Trail (near Hansville, WA)
    • Palouse Falls State Park (near Washtucna, WA)
    • Portions of the Columbia River Trail (Richland, WA)
    • Hells Gate State Park (Lewiston, ID)

    [*]Data courtesy of The Jester:

    • Additional trails and roads at the southern edge of Dash Point State Park (Federal Way, WA)
    • Neighborhood trails near Dash Point (Federal Way, WA)
    • Gravel trail system by the Center at Norpoint (Federal Way, WA)
    • Alderwood Park (Tacoma, WA)
    • Paved trail in Othello, WA
    • Palouse Falls State Park (near Washtucna, WA)
    • Locomotive Park (Lewiston, ID)
    • Part of the trail system around Farr Cemetery (Pullman, WA)
    • Trail in UI Arboretum (Moscow, ID)
    • Trees of Stone Interpretive Trail at Gingko Petrified Forest State Park (near Vantage, WA)
    • Roads and trails at Weyerhaeuser Headquarters (Federal Way, WA)
    • Neighborhood trail near Weyerhaeuser Headquarters (Federal Way, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of dsvaughn:

    • Additional trails in the Buck Lake area (near Hansville, WA)
    • Neighborhood trail system near Cottage Lake (Woodinville, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of Kirt Runolfson:

    • Verification, correction, and addition of numerous trails in the Dishman Hills area (Spokane, WA), including those connecting with the Iller Creek Conservation Area, Tower Mountain, and Browne Mountain

    [*]Data courtesy of Peter Janz:

    • Rabid Rabbit Trail on Beacon Hill (Spokane, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of savant9:

    • Pepin Brook Trail in Aldergrove Lake Regional Park (Abbotsford, BC)

    [*]Data courtesy of Johnny Boy and DB Cooper:

    • Trails at Squires Lake, including the Pacific Northwest Trail (near Alger, WA)
    • Trails in the Montgomery-Duban Headlands (Fidalgo Island, WA)

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It looks like there's data-gathering to be done in the new Paradise Valley Conservation Area. The current NW Trails data for this area doesn't seem to bear much resemblance to the newly published trail map. This area opened to the public sometime in the last week, and there are already two geocaches, a terracache and a series of letterboxes in place. I'm hoping to get to explore it some this weekend, if I can shake my plague.

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It looks like there's data-gathering to be done in the new Paradise Valley Conservation Area. The current NW Trails data for this area doesn't seem to bear much resemblance to the newly published trail map. This area opened to the public sometime in the last week, and there are already two geocaches, a terracache and a series of letterboxes in place. I'm hoping to get to explore it some this weekend, if I can shake my plague.

 

I'm way ahead of you - it's already done and loaded on my GPS! :anicute: Of course, the data I've added is all taken from a rectified image of the PDF (which says right on it that the data is not accurate), so there is still a lot of data-gathering with GPS to be done!

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I just finished posting a new version of Northwest Trails (version 1.39) to the Northwest Trails web page. Lots of really good stuff this time around, including complete coverage of the newly reopened Paradise Valley Conservation Area near Woodinville, WA.

 

Enjoy!

 

Version 1.39 (May 7, 2009)

 

  • Added trails of Paradise Valley Conservation Area (Woodinville, WA) from GPS data, aerial imagery and PDF available at the Snohomish County Parks and Recreation web site
  • Extended Whitehorse Trail from Johnny Boy and DB Cooper's track (see below) west to the Centennial Trail in Arlington, WA, using aerial imagery
  • Added a small amount of trail data for Willows Fjords (Redmond, WA)
  • Added a small section of trails in the Flaming Geyser Natural Area (near Auburn, WA)
  • Data courtesy of caveyeti:
    • Box Canyon State Park (near Hagerman, ID)

    [*]Data courtesy of The Jester:

    • Completion of the roads and trails at Weyerhaeuser Headquarters (Federal Way, WA)
    • Rockland Woodland Garden (Victoria, BC)
    • Unnamed park in Victoria, BC
    • Beacon Hill Park (Victoria, BC)
    • Harborside trail in Victoria, BC
    • Fort Rodd Hill and Fisgard Lighthouse (Victoria, BC)
    • Butchart Gardens (near Victoria, BC)
    • Additions and corrects to the southern end of the BPA Trail (Federal Way, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of lucyandrickie:

    • Verification of and adjustments to trails in Bob Heirman Wildlife Park (near Snohomish, WA)
    • Additional data for Elger Bay Preserve (Camano Island, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of Litho:

    • Verification of and additional data for portions of the Hansville Greenway around Buck Lake (near Hansville, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of savant9:

    • A portion of the Rock'n Horse Trail (Aldergrove Lake Regional Park, Aldergrove BC)
    • A portion of the Lake Loop Trail (Aldergrove Lake Regional Park, Aldergrove BC)
    • A portion of the South Langley Regional Trail (Langley, BC)
    • Most of the Irene Pearce Trail (Langley, BC)

    [*]Data courtesy of monkey360:

    • Bottle Beach (near Ocosta, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of Johnny Boy and DB Cooper:

    • Unnamed trail on the eastern edge of Pilchuck Tree Farm (near Stanwood, WA)
    • Rotary Park (Anacortes, WA)
    • A portion of the Whitehorse Trail (near Arlington, WA)
    • Lily Lake and North Butte Trails on Chuckanut Mountain (near Bow, WA)
    • Verification of and adjustments to various trails in the Paradise Valley Conservation Area (Woodinville, WA)
    • Neighborhood trail near Silver Lake (Mill Creek, WA)
    • Adjustments to the trails at Squires Lake (near Alger, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of Highland Hounds:

    • Complete Cathedral Hills trail system (near Grants Pass, OR)

    [*]Data courtesy of Prying Pandora:

    • Adjustment and extension of a trail in Gold Creek Park (Woodinville, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of Peter Jantz:

    • The Escalator Trail on Beacon Hill (Spokane, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of Shaggy, Scooby, and Velma:

    • Additions to and adjacent to Eglon Hansville Trail (near Hansville, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of FARM GIRL:

    • GPX data for most of the trails in the Pilchuck Tree Farm (near Stanwood, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of GO West:

    • Interurban Trail from Lynnwood Park and Ride to Ballinger Substation (Lynnwood, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of Lightning Jeff:

    • Verification of and adjustments to various trails in the Paradise Valley Conservation Area (Woodinville, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of OldBaldEagle:

    • Adjustments to the Kamikaze Falls route up Mount Teneriffe (near North Bend, WA)

    [*]Data courtesy of MarcusArelius:

    • Verification of the Fuller Mountain Trail (near North Bend, WA)

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I am running MapInstall 3.13.1 and NW_Trails 1.39. MapInstall is only allowing me to select the eastern half of WA and OR, all of ID (except for the panhandle), western MT, nearly all of WY, and the very southern part of AK. I have e-mailed you a screenshot of what it allows me to select.

 

I am going to revert back to 3.12.1 on MapInstall and see if it helps me any.

 

**EDIT**: Nope, still won't let me select the entire state... bummer

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I don't see 3.13.1 available on the Garmin site. Could you post a link to it? The only version I can find is 3.12.1 with no mention of a beta anywhere.

 

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling Northwest Trails?

 

Also, could you tell me what operating system you are using?

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3.13.1 is not available to the public yet. It is only available when you install the TOPO 24K Northwest DVD. It is not a beta, either.

 

I use Windows Vista Ultimate edition.

 

I was able to load NW_Trails 1.39 using MapSource, but MapInstall still only allowed me limited selection.

 

I have it installed, so no worries.

 

**EDIT**: Found on the web:

 

Garmin MapInstall Special version 3.13.1

 

(Update not available from Garmin's website, but inlcuded in 2010 maps)

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Northwest Trails v1.40 has been posted!

 

Memorial Day arrives here in the states on Monday, and based on the number of submissions that I have received for the Northwest Trails Project in recent days, it looks like I'm not the only one itching for this traditional start of summer to arrive! It's as though people are dusting off their old tracks and waypoints in anticipation of getting out and enjoying them in the woods. Lots of data came in from new and familiar faces alike in the past couple of weeks and I can only hope that the trend continues; nothing makes me happier than seeing new or updated trails popping up on the maps and in the GPS!

 

Now, if only we could get more involvement from people outside of Washington State! It is the only state represented in updates this version, which is a trend I hope won't continue. Any ideas on how to get people from Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, et al. excited about this project? Please post any suggestions or ideas you may have.

 

Here is the list of the new stuff this round. Enjoy!

 

Version 1.40
(May 20, 2009)

  • Removed "motorized" designation from the Esmeralda Basin and Country Line Trails near Teanaway, WA (error pointed out by Perry Burkhart)

  • Added missing portions of the eastern section of the Tolt Pipeline Trail (pointed out by
    Lightning Jeff
    ) using aerial imagery (near Duvall, WA)

  • Data courtesy of
    Lightning Jeff
    :
    • Additional roads and trails in the Marckworth Forest (near Duvall, WA)

    • Extension of a trail at Moss Lake (near Duvall, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    Johnny Boy and DB Cooper
    :

    • Revamp of the data to Fragrance Lake (Chuckanut Mountain near Bow, WA)

    • Verification of Teddy Bear Cove (near Bellingham, WA)

    • Union Slough Salt Marsh (near Everett, WA)

    • Revisions of and additions to the Pine & Cedar Lakes Trail and adjoining trails on Chuckanut Mountain (near Bellingham, WA)

    • Revision of a portion of the Samish Overlook Trail on Blanchard Mountain (near Bow, WA)

    • A portion of the trails in Captain Whidbey State Park (near Oak Harbor, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    thebudman
    :

    • Additional trail on "The Bluff" (High Drive Parkway, Spokane, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    TotemLake
    :

    • Extension of a trail at Moss Lake (near Duvall, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    lucyandrickie
    :

    • Trail leading up toward Hard Scrabble Falls (near Clipper, WA)

    • Refinements to the Colin Creek Trail in the Redmond Watershed (Redmond, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    Shaggy, Scooby, and Velma
    :

    • Additional trail adjacent to Eglon Hansville Trail (near Hansville, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    EraSeek
    :

    • Additional trail along the Everett waterfront (Everett, WA)

    • Verification and extension of an unnamed trail on the eastern edge of Pilchuck Tree Farm (near Stanwood, WA)

    • Eagle Trail (Arlington, WA)

    • Verification of the John Wayne Trail from the Boylston Trailhead to Rye (WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    samckernan
    :

    • Additional data in the Willows Fjords area (Redmond, WA)

    • Grass Lawn Park (Redmond, WA)

    • Kingsgate Park and beyond (near Kirkland, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    AndrewRJ
    :

    • Paved neighborhood trail in Monroe, WA

    • Minor trail in Fall City West Park (near Fall City, WA)

    • Trails near Lake Lenore (near Ephrata, WA)

    • Old remnant of NE 132nd St now overgrown and converted to a trail in Big Finn Hill Park (Kirkland, WA)

    • Additional data in the Willows Fjords area (Redmond, WA)

    • Extension of a trail at Moss Lake (near Duvall, WA)

    • Extension of a trail in Bob Heirman Wildlife Park (near Snohomish, WA)

    • Grass Lawn Park (Redmond, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of Raman Sarin:

    • Additional refinement of trails at Tokul West (near Fall City, WA)

    • Corrections and refinements to trails at Griffin Creek (near Fall City, WA)

    • Additional refinement of trails at Tolt River-John MacDonald Park (near Carnation, WA)

    • Additional trail and refinements at Soaring Eagle Regional Park (Sammamish, WA)

    • Additional trails and refinements at Saint Edward State Park and Big Finn Hill Park (Juanita, WA)

    • Additional trails and refinements at North SeaTac Park (SeaTac, WA)

    • Additional refinement of trails at South SeaTac Park (Des Moines, WA)

    • Verification of the Preston Railroad and Northwest Timber Trails on Tiger Mountain (near Issaquah, WA)

    • Corrections and refinements to the trails in the Paradise Valley Conservation Area (Woodinville, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    The Jester
    :

    • Gaines Park (Auburn, WA)

    • Additional trails and verification in Spring Lake/Lake Desire Park (Renton, WA)

    • Celebration Park (Federal Way, WA)

    • Mirror Lake Park (Federal Way, WA)

    • Corrections to the northern end of the BPA Trail (Federal Way, WA)

    • Complete trail system around Fisher's Pond (Federal Way, WA)

    • A portion of the Maple Valley Lake Wilderness Trails (Maple Valley, WA)

    • A portion of the Danville Trail system (Maple Valley, WA)

    • Lake Killarney Park (Federal Way, WA)

    [*]
    Data courtesy of
    mvkazit
    :

    • Dirty Face Trail (near Lake Wenatchee, WA)

    • Loop through the Enchantments, including the stuart Lake Trail, Colchuck Lake Trail, and Dragontail Peak (Alpine Lakes Wilderness, WA)

    • North Fork Sauk Trail (near Glacier Peak, WA)

    • Adjustments and revisions to some Grand Ridge trails (Issaquah, WA)

    • Adjustments and revisions to some Lord Hill trails (near Monroe, WA)

    • Little Mason Lake Trail (Alpine Lakes Wilderness, WA)

    • Adjustments to the Denny Creek, Melakwa Lake, and Pratt Lake Trails (Alpine Lakes Wilderness, WA)

    • South Climb Trail on Mount Adams (WA)

    • Adjustments to the Mount Si Trail (near North Bend, WA)

    • Rock Mountain Trail and a portion of the Nason Ridge Trail (near Stevens Pass, WA)

    • Trail up Umptanum Ridge from Umptanum Creek (near Yakima, WA)

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Hey all,

 

I've finally gotten around to moving Switchbacks.com to a new web host and in the process have moved my blog to the site so it is a little better integrated (http://www.switchbacks.com/blog). The big change, however, is the introduction of a completely new feature - a user forum! I'm hoping that people will like using it for discussions of maps, GPS mapsets, and everything else. Come on over and have a look around (and maybe start a thread or two, as things are a little bare right now! :blink:).

 

With this change I will no longer be posting map and site updates here (but will continue monitoring the thread for questions, etc.).

 

Thanks!

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Moun10Bike,

 

Your trail descriptions often contain the argument "~[0x1f]Trails". What does that do? I tried a search, no hits.

 

Thanks

 

That is a code that removes the trailing words/characters when zoomed out. So, for example, "Tiger Mountain Trail" will appear as "Tiger Mountain" when you are zoomed out and labels start conflicting. It helps to reduce clutter.

 

My question is where are you seeing this? The code should not appear on the GPS or in Mapsource unless I goofed somewhere. (You will, of course, see the label if you are extracting the data directly from the image files in the mapset.)

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Your trail descriptions often contain the argument "~[0x1f]Trails". What does that do?
My question is where are you seeing this?
Elsewhere in this thread you describe how to extract the trails to MP files via GPSMapEdit. Those MP text files show the ~[0x1f] and I was curious. However, one does not append road, then why append trail? Cannot the line type show trail.

 

Since I have your attention, indulge me a few more questions, since your experience exceeds mine via an order of magnitude.

 

Tracklog filtering? I like to use Mapsource because I can see the underlying map. The filtering options are many: time, distance, auto, etc. I've found I can delete at least 75% of the points from the track and not affect the look. What filtering have you found you like best?

 

Some of your "trails" have route or primitive, again from the MP file. How do these differ from ordinary trails?

 

Thanks for your time and effort.

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However, one does not append road, then why append trail? Cannot the line type show trail.

 

I append road as well. I'm sure that there are some that I have missed along the way, though.

 

Tracklog filtering? I like to use Mapsource because I can see the underlying map. The filtering options are many: time, distance, auto, etc. I've found I can delete at least 75% of the points from the track and not affect the look. What filtering have you found you like best?

 

I do not filter the data I include in Northwest Trails (short of deleting obviously stray points, places where the line crosses over itself, etc.).

 

Some of your "trails" have route or primitive, again from the MP file. How do these differ from ordinary trails?

 

You are seeing data that is automatically attributed to data by cGPSmapper based on line type. It is used to classify roads and trails for routing (assigning speeds, etc.). I do not use it in Northwest Trails.

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Northwest Trails v1.40 has been posted!

Now, if only we could get more involvement from people outside of Washington State! It is the only state represented in updates this version, which is a trend I hope won't continue. Any ideas on how to get people from Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, et al. excited about this project? Please post any suggestions or ideas you may have.

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Moun10bike

 

Had you considered doing something at Geowoodstock when it's in the Seattle area next year? Maybe a talk or some kind of a presentation/booth about the NW Trails project? Maybe some people from Montana, Wyoming, etc who are unfamiliar with the project will come to Geowoodstock and this can be used as a way to get the word out? If you decide to do something like this, I would be happy to help.

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Northwest Trails v1.40 has been posted!

Now, if only we could get more involvement from people outside of Washington State! It is the only state represented in updates this version, which is a trend I hope won't continue. Any ideas on how to get people from Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, et al. excited about this project? Please post any suggestions or ideas you may have.

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Moun10bike

 

Had you considered doing something at Geowoodstock when it's in the Seattle area next year? Maybe a talk or some kind of a presentation/booth about the NW Trails project? Maybe some people from Montana, Wyoming, etc who are unfamiliar with the project will come to Geowoodstock and this can be used as a way to get the word out? If you decide to do something like this, I would be happy to help.

Great idea to have a presentation on NW Trails. There was a series of sessions on various topics at this year's GW (e.g., Twitter, GSAK, Wherigo). Maybe it would encourage similar projects in other areas of the country, as well.

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If you've wanted to submit data to Northwest Trails but haven't wanted to deal with emailing the data to me directly, there is now an easy way to submit:

 

 

The submission form saves all of the details entered into the form in a file accompanying the upload, and it also generates an automatic email notification to me so that I know there is new data available.

 

Let me know if you run into any problems or have any suggestions!

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If you've wanted to submit data to Northwest Trails but haven't wanted to deal with emailing the data to me directly, there is now an easy way to submit:

 

 

The submission form saves all of the details entered into the form in a file accompanying the upload, and it also generates an automatic email notification to me so that I know there is new data available.

 

Let me know if you run into any problems or have any suggestions!

Is it still okay to email data to you, or is this a subtle hint you'd prefer us to submit via the website? ;) I'm fine either way; email was just quicker for me.

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And it will help this old cacher from forgetting to attach the GPX file to the email! ;):D

 

I tried it out today, and it works well. Thanks Moun10Bike!

 

Edit to add: It has a place for comments, so anything you'd like to say to M10B can be included.

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Is it still okay to email data to you, or is this a subtle hint you'd prefer us to submit via the website? :mad: I'm fine either way; email was just quicker for me.

 

Email is fine, but I think the upload page would be even easier for you. You can bookmark the page and send something off probably even more quickly than you can an email. The one caveat for a couple of you (including you, Abby!) is that I currently have the page set to reject GDB files. The reason is that it takes me extra steps to convert GDB to GPX , which I have to do since almost none of the utilities I use support that file format. If this proves to be a hassle, I can change things.

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[quote name='Moun10Bike'

Is it still okay to email data to you, or is this a subtle hint you'd prefer us to submit via the website? :) I'm fine either way; email was just quicker for me.

 

Email is fine, but I think the upload page would be even easier for you. You can bookmark the page and send something off probably even more quickly than you can an email. The one caveat for a couple of you (including you, Abby!) is that I currently have the page set to reject GDB files. The reason is that it takes me extra steps to convert GDB to GPX , which I have to do since almost none of the utilities I use support that file format. If this proves to be a hassle, I can change things.

 

Jon, I imagine it's often a trade-off between what's easiest for users and what's easiest for you when submitting and processing tracks. I encourage you choose what is easiest for you (like you have done on the gpx vs gdb issue) rather than always cater what's easiest for the submitters of tracks. Hopefully that way the work you take on will not become too much for you to handle and you will therefore continue to update the map sets. I can't tell you how useful they are every time I hit the hills.

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Jon, I imagine it's often a trade-off between what's easiest for users and what's easiest for you when submitting and processing tracks. I encourage you choose what is easiest for you (like you have done on the gpx vs gdb issue) rather than always cater what's easiest for the submitters of tracks. Hopefully that way the work you take on will not become too much for you to handle and you will therefore continue to update the map sets. I can't tell you how useful they are every time I hit the hills.

 

The big reason for adding this change was the fact that people not familiar with the project did not know how to send in data. The email thing just wasn't apparent. In addition, the use of the form helps to automate some of the things I was doing manually (naming conventions, for example) and to limit the file types I was getting, which were starting to expand.

 

That said, I don't want to do anything that discourages people from submitting data. I don't feel like we are quite at the point of critical mass where I can demand too much! :)

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