2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Here are the rules.... The hands and their point value. 1pt) 1 pair (Jacks or better) = letters only *J* or better (J,J K,K L,L R,R etc.) 2pts) 2 pair = 2 of the same number &/or letters (First letter/number of the designation only) twice - example - 2, 2 + 5, 5 / B, B + M, M / 4, 4 + L, L 3pts) 3 of a Kind = 3 of the same letters 4pts) Straight = Consecutive letters only 5pts) Flush = 5 of the same line #, no mixing benchmarks from more than 1 line even if it is the same line number. 8pts) Full House = 2 of one letter designation and 3 of another letter designation. 20pts) 4 of a Kind = 4 of the same letter. 40pts) Straight Flush = 5 Consecutive Letters of the same line # 100pts) Royal Flush = "A", "K", "Q", "J", "T" of the same line # All are "Designation Only" using only the "FIRST letter/number &/or line #" on the GC benchmark page. Only finds from September 1st, 2007 and after will qualify. A benchmark can only be used once and must have its own PID# on GC. Only benchmark disks & stainless rods that have a cover with the designation stamped on it. No Intersection Stations. So use your finds wisely. You can only use each hand once (unless you earned the top bonus * ). For the Straight Flush, If the 'line' does not include the "I" or "O", meaning there is no PID# for it, then they can be discounted from the requirement. If we check the findings for a straight flush and the "I" or "O" is listed (has a PID#) then it will be required for the hand (If it falls in the sequence used). You must *Show your hand* by first telling us which hand you are claiming and then providing links to each benchmark in the hand. If your picture of the benchmark can't be Easily read, then it WILL be disqualified. Close-ups are preferred, but as long as it can be CLEARLY read it will be accepted. Remember, It is a couple of OLD farts WITH glasses who will be Judging the pictures & if they can't read the designation - oh well. Bonuses: If it has a previous DNF or has a benchmark that is OLD or VERY OLD in the hand - you MUST let us know to get your Bonus Points. OLD = 5 Pts for pre-1950. VERY OLD = Older than the 2oldfarts or Harry Dolphin, worth 10 Pts for pre-1930. Previous logged DNFs. = 5 Pts (Of course, you need to have found that DNF.) 1 bonus per hand with any of the following, so be sure to tell us if you're claiming a bonus when you log each hand. DNF means that the last log for the benchmark must be a DNF that was logged prior to July 13th 2007 *If you complete all hands, you will get a *bonus* worth 25 Pts + the permission to start all over again with logging each hand with new finds. Let us know if you are claiming this bonus! You can't have found the benchmark in the last 12 months. (You may log it as a note if you have found it over a year ago. (Remember we will be looking at all the pictures already logged for these benchmarks.) ) Prizes will be awarded for 1st through 5th place and a drawing for the special prizes. To be eligible for the drawing you will need to have found at least one of the above listed hands. These prizes were donated by Berntsen. Other mystery (?) prizes to be announced. The contest will run for 2 months -- 9/01/07 until 11/04/07 (sundown). Logging your finds will end on 11/07/07. The 2oldfarts are the judges and their decisions will be final. "If anyone sees or knows of a bogus log being made, please PM or e-mail us with the details so we can get it taken care of." Please post the hand you are claiming and hot links to the GC.com benchmark pages for each of your found benchmarks in that hand. You may post more than 1 hand at a time if you so desire. Here is our example....... Straight Flush R 401 ... S 401 ... T 401 ... U 401 ... V 401 Please make sure that you have clear readable pictures of the disks. This has been one of the leading reasons for the "Dreaded PMs from John" in past contests. Did we mention that you need to be in 1 of the pictures (like a locationless cache)? Perhaps, because that is not in the rules and we just wanted to increase your "excitement" in the contest. Good luck and have fun! John & Shirley PS: Please use this thread for logging your finds only. Use another thread for questions and comments & Bluffing. Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted September 2, 2007 Author Share Posted September 2, 2007 "Did we mention that you need to be in 1 of the pictures (like a locationless cache)? Perhaps, because that is not in the rules and we just wanted to increase your "excitement" in the contest. " It's only a joke, not part of the rules. Did we increase your heart rate? John Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Okay. Dolphin goes first. (Any bonus for that?) Four of a Kind Bear Fort Reset Bald Hill Reset B 20 Bell Bonus claimed: 5 pts for 'old' disk (Both B 20 and Bell were set in 1935) Note: (Mandatory) photo of dolphin included with Bald Hill Reset Quote Link to comment
+shorbird Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Here's my first hand: 4 of a kind. DU BOIS RM 1, DU BOIS RM 2, DU BOIS AZ MK, D 304. 20 pts. for hand, plus 5 pts. each for all 3 DU BOIS disks, which were set in 1938(total 15), = 35 points for the hand. Quote Link to comment
+Rumpled Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 (edited) How about a four of a kind for 20 pts, and on the first day even? DB1784 DB1432 DB0408 DB0595 No bonus points on these ones. DB1432 I could only get within about three feet due to the fence and the nearby Border Patrol agent; hope that still counts. Uh oh, looks like I'm confused. I'm using PID's here, is the contest Designations? Looks like I'll have to rethink my cards. Edited September 6, 2007 by Rumpled Quote Link to comment
+2/3 Marine Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Just starting with a pair, JK1248 is a 1947 BM for +5pts JK1245 PIKES PEAK 2 JK1248 PIKES PEAK ECC 2 Trying hard not to go back on BM's I've logged over a year ago,but I'll probably have to before it's over. Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Dolphin agrees with 2/3 Marine. I've done parts or most of the local lines. Virgin lines are a fair distance away. (Not to mention our dismal failure with the line 74 miles north.) But hunting the 40 line did give us a chance to look for a few we couldn't find last time around. (Still couldn't find them. Something about digging for a half hour next to a major highway or a school.) You call this a line? Were the surveyors drunk?!? Head up 9W from Edgewater, take a detour down the Palisades, head north again. Realze that your about to run out of New Jersey, so you turn around, take a detour west, and back again. And end up with Y and Z near A and B? But anyways, here is my flush: KU1624 G 40 KU1637 U 40 KU1641 V 40 KU1642 W 40 KU1656 X 40 Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 (edited) Full House.(8 pts) 2 P's 3 A's GF0369 P 18 GF1000 P 348 GF0566 A 4 (10pts) It is Very Old GF0974 A 349 GG0591 AVOCA TTL=(18pts) EDITED FOR CORRECTION. Edited September 11, 2007 by GEO*Trailblazer 1 Quote Link to comment
+wvhillbilly59 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 OK, here's my first attempted hand. I'm hoping this straight flush, sadly with no bonuses, qualifies for at least 40 points. None of these are considered old by contest standards but none have been logged into the GC.com database as found either. LC0256 V 200 LC0257 W 200 LC0258 X 200 LC0264 Y 200 RESET 1961 LC0266 Z 200 Quote Link to comment
+2/3 Marine Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Tried the corn starch as I know the "Old Farts " can't see as good as they once did...me either! Works great & should have been using it all along.Working my way up the hands for now.Here's 2pair with HOLCOLM a 1939 for +5pts HOLCOLM HARRIS FAA 00V A FAA 00V B HUMMM! What to use & what to save for later?? Quote Link to comment
+2/3 Marine Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 What the heck "it is what it is",I'll save up some for later. BRACK BANDT BATES 3 of a kind ...no bonus Quote Link to comment
+Rumpled Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Okay, deal me in for a couple of hands Full House with bonus DB0595 EHL 7 DB0408 EHL 6 FU1420 E 824 also old 1947 for 5pts FU1281 G 67 and very old 1927 for 10 pts FU1414 G 963 X 8 pts for the hand and 10 pts for the bonus = 18 ( I can only claim 1 bonus right? otherwise +5) My next hand is two pair with a bonus FU1963 D 1016 FU1417 D 824 old 1947 for 5 pts FU1421 Z 66 very old for 10 pts FU1428 Z 558 2 pts for the hand and 10 pts for the bonus = 12 ( I can only claim 1 bonus right? otherwise +5) Total for my 2 hands is 30 pts ( I can only claim 1 bonus per hand right? otherwise +10 total) Go ahead and let me know if I've done anything wrong; and if any pictures aren't good enough I can try to edit them. Quote Link to comment
+shorbird Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Got to go back to the oldies(over 12 months since found): Straight Flush (No "O' in this line) N 147 P 147 Q 147 R 147 S 147 40 pts. for the hand + 5 pts. bonus for OLD(all marks set in 1949) = 45 pts. This line runs along Western Reserve Road, once the southern boundary of the Connecticut Western Reserve. Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 1 Pair. 1 pt. plus a VO bonus 10 pts.=11 pts. GF0969 Y 309 HD0728 Y 4 Quote Link to comment
+shorbird Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Full House CALLA AZ MK CALLA RM 1 CALLA RM 2 PARADISE PARADISE RM 2 8 pts. for the hand plus 5 pts. for OLD(all set in 1949) = 13 pts. Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Dolphin's not much for bluffing at poker. Comes from being 7th of 9. With 11 people playing (summers upstate), we played Seven Card High/Low. Three of a Kind KU1634 S 40 KV5828 Smith KV5833 Stevens 3 Points for Three of a Kind, plus 5 point bonus for OLD. (Both Smith and Stevens were set in 1935.) Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 2 pair. 2 pts. GG0910 N 309 GF1001 N 348 GF1002 M 348 GG0910 M 309 Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 (edited) Straight Flush Dolphin and Bear wander around cow country... LY0834 C 34 LY0835 D 34 LY0836 E 34 (Pre-approved by the judges.) LY0837 F 34 LY0838 G 34 40 points for Straight Flush + a 5 point bonus for being monumented in 1942 (Well, except maybe for E 34 which bears the date 194. Hmm... Surveyor couldn't find the '2' die?) Edited September 17, 2007 by Harry Dolphin Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 4 0f a Kind. 20 pts. + VO 10 pts. 23 pts. GF0979 BAUGHER HD1491 B 344 HD0644 B 5 VO HD1318 BROOKLINE RESET Quote Link to comment
+shorbird Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 (edited) Three of a Kind: DONNER RM 1 DONNER DONNER RM 3 3 pts. for the hand + 5 pts. bonus(DONNER and RM 1 set in 1937) = 8 pts. total Edited September 20, 2007 by shorbird Quote Link to comment
+shorbird Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Two Pair: M 223 MT UNION 1950 RM 1 1179 1185 2 pts. for hand + 10 pts. VERY OLD bonus(1185 set in 1906) = 12 pts. Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 4 0f a Kind. 20 pts. + VO 10 pts. 23 pts. GF0979 BAUGHER HD1491 B 344 HD0644 B 5 VO HD1318 BROOKLINE RESET Edit: 20 + 10 = 30 Not 23. I was well....... no excuse I can't add either. Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 (edited) Strait Flush. 40 pts. GG0926 R 309 GG0927 S 309 GG0928 T 309 GG0929 U 309 GF0966 V 309 OK they match now. Edited September 20, 2007 by GEO*Trailblazer 1 Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 This was what I was going to log then changed mid course. 3 of a Kind. 3 pts + 10 pts. VO 13 pts. GF0959 F 348 GF0906 FORTUNE HD0650 F 5 VO Take one carry the and thats OK!! Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Flush 5 -348's 5 pts. GF0596 C (348) GF0597 D (348) GF0064 E (348) GF0960 G (348) GF0961 H (348) Quote Link to comment
+2/3 Marine Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 A 3 day trip to ride the Narrow Gauge from Chama NM to Antonito CO., plus a lot of BM hunting.So... here goes! STRAIGHT with GM0519 very old GM0567 A32 GM0519 BOUNDRY MI COR 163+22 JK1148 CWDE 2 HK0424 D400 HK0297 E33 FLUSH with HL0078 old HL0078 E32 HL0079 F32 HK0264 L32 HK0276 S32 HK0279 V32 FULL HOUSE with HK0397 old HK0397 ROMEO SOUTH BASE RESET HK0401 ROMEO NORTH BASE KK1611 ROCK HK0539 PIEDMONT HK0406 P399 FOUR OF A KIND with HK0379 old HK0379 A34 HK0420 A400 HL0080 ANTONITO BM HL0362 ANTONITO ROYAL FLUSH HK0395 A399 HK0402 K399 HK0407 Q399 HK0400 J399 HK0411 T399 Just couldn't get a STRAIGHT FLUSH out of that 399 line.Might have to break down & go revisit a line close to home. Quote Link to comment
+shorbird Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 FLUSH T 153 U 153 V 153 X 153 Z 153 No bonuses. Total 5 pts. Quote Link to comment
+shorbird Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 (edited) Royal Flush A 110 K 110 Q 110 J 110 T 110 100 pts. for the hand, + 5 pts. for DNF by previous logger for J 110 = 105 pts. Edited September 24, 2007 by shorbird Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Gee, you guys make those Royal Flushes look easy! Or: Oh! The things that you'll see. A voyage through Perth Amboy, Eizabeth and Newark, New Jersey. (Three counties involved, John! Good thing I misread that rule!) A 11 K 11 Q 11 J 11 T 11 That's 100 points for a Royal Flush, plus a 5 point bonus for them all being OLD (1933). Now, what to do with the other six benchmarks that we found today??? Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I have to drive over 70 miles one way to get the Royal Flush. And that is if the marks are still there. Quote Link to comment
+shorbird Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 1 pair, Jacks or better: PARADISE AZ MK P 64 1 pt. for the hand, + 5 pts. OLD bonus (P 64 set in 1935) = 6 pts. total Quote Link to comment
+shorbird Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 STRAIGHT CFO 1 D 154 RESET ELLSWORTH F 154 G 154 4 pts. for the hand, plus 25 pts. bonus for completing all hands. Quote Link to comment
+A tapeworm Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 ... plus 25 pts. bonus for completing all hands. You the man! Quote Link to comment
+2/3 Marine Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 STRAIGHT FLUSH no I in this line HK0425 E400 JK0895 F400 JK0896 G400 JK0899 H400 JK0900 J400 25 point bonus.. completed all hands. Quote Link to comment
+wvhillbilly59 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 (edited) 4 of a kind for 20 points with one OLD for a 5 point bonus for a total of 25 points. LC0302, Patton no 5 LC2068, Paxport LC0213, Paxton (1932 for a 5 point bonus) LC0042, P201 Edited September 25, 2007 by wvhillbilly59 Quote Link to comment
+wvhillbilly59 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 (edited) Full House for 8 points plus one OLD (Arthur) for 5 point bonus for total of 13 points KB0017, Arthur (5 pt. bonus for OLD) LC0079, Artesia RM2 LC0098, H202 LC0086, HOLTZ LC0085, HOLTZ RM 2 (I hope the judges will allow this one. It can be nearly read and you can tell what it is.) Edited September 25, 2007 by wvhillbilly59 Quote Link to comment
+2/3 Marine Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 A correction for my STRAIGHT FLUSH JK0899 H 400 JK0900 J 400 It was a long day...which is no excuse! Quote Link to comment
+wvhillbilly59 Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 (edited) STRAIGHT for 4 points + 5 point bonus for LCO212 (E 40) being in the OLD category for a total of 9 points A 238, LC1240 BUCKLEY 2, RM 3, LC0073 C 201, LC0273 D 202, LC0088 E 40, LC0212 (old, 1935) Edited September 27, 2007 by wvhillbilly59 Quote Link to comment
+wvhillbilly59 Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 5 points for a FLUSH, which includes one DNF (LC0284), for a total of 10 points G201, LC0284 (DNF, 5 pt. bonus) K 201, LC0291 X 201, LC0067 V 201, LC0062 U 201, LC0061 Quote Link to comment
+2/3 Marine Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 A PAIR with HK0250 old or DNF HK0250 J 75 AH8749 JESSE TWO PAIR with HK0295 very old HK0295 7543.22 HK0300 7549.11 RESET HL0359 C399 JL0656 CENTERVILLE 2 3 OF A KIND with HK0381 old HK0381 B 34 AH8742 BM1 AAB 7246 HL0358 B 399 STRAIGHT with JK0611 old JK0611 J 34 JK0901 K 400 JK0902 L 400 JK0903 M 400 JK0905 N 400 Quote Link to comment
+wvhillbilly59 Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Two Pair for 2 whopping points. BUCKLEY 2, LC0071 BUCKLEY 2, NO 4, LC0074 VERMILION, LC0294 VERMILION RM 1, LC0293 Quote Link to comment
+shorbird Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Second time around... FOUR OF A KIND W 24 WOOD E BASE RM 1 WOOD E BASE WOOD E BASE RM 2 20 pts. for the hand, + 5 pts. for OLD(all marks before 1950) = 25 pts. Quote Link to comment
+Klemmer Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 OK, it's time I got on the board: Pair: OCF 48 A, (AB8639), DNF - Bonus OCF 43, (AB8635) 1+5=6 points 2 Pair: STONE, (DY2049), Old - Bonus STONE RM 2, (DY2050), Old - Spare OCF 44 A, (AB8636) OCF 46, (AB8637) 2+5=7 points 3 of a Kind: STOCKTON, (DC1490), Old - Bonus STONE, (TZ1927), Old - Spare SAN DIEGO GPS 23, (DC2133) 3+5=8 points Full House: MALVA 2, (TZ2013), Very Old - Bonus [1860 !!]** MALVA 2, (DY2103), Old - Spare M 750, (DC0777) OCF 47, (AB8638) OCF 49, (AB8640) 8+10=18 points 4 of a Kind: BLUFF, (TZ1974), Very Old - Bonus [1862 !!]** BRIDE, (DY2056), Old - Spare BRIDE RM 2, (DY2058), Old - Spare BRIDE, (TZ1994), Old - Spare 20+10=30 points Total = 69 points ** Maybe next contest, a very very old bonus, maybe pre-1900? Note: There appear to be duplicate designations (STONE, MALVA 2, BRIDE), but in each case, one is Horizontal Control, and one is Vertical Control, each with its own PID. Also some RM's have their own PIDs. Next, for the lines. Those will be tough out here in SoCal. Too many widened roads, housing developments, not to mention 12 lane freeways Quote Link to comment
+2/3 Marine Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 A couple more hands FLUSH HL0360 D 399 HL0364 F 399 HK0396 G 399 HK0408 R 399 HK0415 W 399 FOUR OF A KIND with JK0615 old JK0615 M 34 HK0404 M 399 JL0034 M 339 AH8748 MARCELLA Quote Link to comment
+2/3 Marine Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 The last one for a while until I figure out wheather to revisit some or go for another LONG ride. FULL HOUSE with JK0613 old JK0613 L 34 HK0403 L 399 JL0080 S 339 AE4283 STEWART HK0410 S 399 Probably a long ride before it snows!! Quote Link to comment
+GEO*Trailblazer 1 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Strait 4 pts GF0950 V 344 GF0951 W 344 GF0952 X 344 GF0965 Y 344 GF0958 Z 344 That Royal Flush is killing me. I have searched in 3 States and several lines. Them Q's are just gone. Maybe lady luck will pull through with a future trip to North Kansas there is "Maybe" one there at least there was in 2005. And it is fairly close to Garmin HQ so maybe just maybe.......... You guy's and gal's keep your fingers crossed for me. If I don't get that one this will be my last log. Quote Link to comment
68-eldo Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 That Royal Flush is killing me. I have searched in 3 States and several lines. Them Q's are just gone. In some applications Qs are omitted because they can be confused with O and 0. Quote Link to comment
+The Fossillady Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 (edited) My first hands: 4 of a Kind plus old bonus (R579) = 25 pts DX3535 R 1326 DX0346 R 579 (old 1939) DX0345 R 579 Rm 1 DX0343 R 579 Rm 3 Full House plus very old bonus = 18 pts DX0302 B 62 (1927 very old) DX0060 B 120 AI4539 BOR 3 DX0445 AD 20 DX0444 AD 21 Edited September 29, 2007 by fossillady Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Six counties in three states, eighteen benchmarks and two hundred miles on the cachemobile, and what do I have to show for it? Jacks or better: Nonsense KV4908 N 11 KV0072 Bonus: 5 points: N 11 set in 1933 Two Pair: Elizabeth KV0073 E 35 LY0801 M 11 KV0070 Morris Plains KV0634 Bonus: 5 points: Elizabeth and M 11 set in 1933 Straight: P 11 KV0080 Q 13 LY0670 R 102 LY2241 SC 120 KV6536 T 140 LY0627 Bonus: 5 Points: P 11 and Q 13 both set in 1933 Full House SC 181 KV6597 SC 180 KV6596 Snake KV5786 B11 KV0024 B 339 KU1433 Bonus: 5 points: B 11 set in 1933 Added bonus: 25 points for completing all hands. (Unless I made a stupid mistake somewhere. This is more complicated than filling out the NJ Income Tax Form!) Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 When life gives you lemons, make lemonade... A 236 LY1951 K 236 LY0654 B 236 LY0633 J 236 LY0652 T 236 LY1141 Oh, wait a moment. That's only a flush. It looked like such a promising line too! The Q disk is missing. Q 236 LY0663 Oh, pshaw! Only 150 miles round trip! Now, this is a strange line! The ones on bridges/culverts were set by PADH, the ones on rocks/boulders were set by CGS. But it is one continuous line stretching across Pike County, Pa, set in 1959. Quote Link to comment
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