+Super_Nate Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I'm not the person with the brains to come up with details...but I think it would be neat to have a way of including the number of FTF's to your stats. Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 It would be interesting, but problimatic. For example if the FTF never logs on line, or two people claim it but only one really is and so on. In the same vein LFT (Last to find) would also be interesting to know. Just so you could flip them crap about being bad luck. Link to comment
+robert Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Keep track of them yourself, and add them to your profile. Link to comment
+Yamahammer Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Keep track of them yourself, and add them to your profile. Robert is right. Anything with a stat icon ought to be available to everyone. FTF icon's would only go to one person per cache. Link to comment
+robert Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Super_Nate, If it were added, how would it be implemented? Would it be a check box on the log that asks if you were FTF? There's nothing preventing the first person to log it from checking the box. Would it be the first person to log it? That isn't always the FTF. Leave it up to the owner? Nah, wouldn't be something I'd want to worry about. I've seen the 9th person who logged the cache saying "Wow, a FTF!" when the logbook verifies someone else. I have seen a bunch of people just add a line to their profile: "As of 9/4: 15 FTFs" or have a list of caches you were FTF on, etc. Link to comment
+Super_Nate Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 Well, it's a good point you all made! I was thinking about someone finding the cache and then the owner coming and checking the log as to who the FTF was. Then they would click the certian user who logged first. It was an idea, but I guess there is no way it could happen. Link to comment
+Marky Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 It was an idea, but I guess there is no way it could happen. terracaching uses a FTF code to determine the FTF status of a find. It is entered when the the find is logged. Works pretty nicely, actually. --Marky Link to comment
+robert Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 It was an idea, but I guess there is no way it could happen. terracaching uses a FTF code to determine the FTF status of a find. It is entered when the the find is logged. Works pretty nicely, actually. --Marky What happens if the FTL is not FTF? Link to comment
+KoosKoos Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 It was an idea, but I guess there is no way it could happen. terracaching uses a FTF code to determine the FTF status of a find. It is entered when the the find is logged. Works pretty nicely, actually. --Marky What happens if the FTL is not FTF? Doesn't matter because the FTF has taken the code out of the cache. Link to comment
+robert Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Psshh. I was thinking "code" as in "coding" the site .... But there's an actual physical code in the cache for FTF.... gotcha. Link to comment
+Super_Nate Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 Psshh. I was thinking "code" as in "coding" the site .... But there's an actual physical code in the cache for FTF.... gotcha. And if the cache page required that code to be a FTF...Then the FTF can be part of your stats...right? Link to comment
+robert Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Guess so, just gotta hope everyone who puts out a cache would put a code with it... then there's 5 years worth of caches that don't have the stats on it. Hmm... Link to comment
+budd-rdc Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 I'm lukewarm on the idea, since trying to FTF is quite competitive as it is already. Keeping stats and giving it more merit might lead to possibly unpleasant consequences. Having a physical code that FTF has to take out of the cache is a good idea, but it can been done with a FTF Travel Bug (people have done that before). Of course, it can get expensive ($4 each minimum) and if the TB gets re-used, people might cheat, since after all, FTF is competitive enough as it is already. But I'm sure a special icon and unique code for "FTF Travel Bug" can be generated with some modifications to the current software without major overhaul. Link to comment
+Marky Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 It was an idea, but I guess there is no way it could happen. terracaching uses a FTF code to determine the FTF status of a find. It is entered when the the find is logged. Works pretty nicely, actually. --Marky What happens if the FTL is not FTF? This is no problem what so ever. The FTF takes the FTF code from the cache, so is the only person who can claim the FTF log, regardless of when he or she actually enteres his or her log entry. Link to comment
+Mastifflover Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I think that this would be pretty cool if it could be implemented. Link to comment
+Team Perks Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I guess I'm in the party-pooper column here. I sure as heck am not gonna go back and try to account all the FTF's I already have...nor am I going to go back and attempt to verify everyone who has FTF'd on my own caches. Odds are I'm not really going to care enough about anyone else's FTF to put any sort of verification code in any new cache I hide in the future either. Link to comment
+Allen_L Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Odds are I'm not really going to care enough about anyone else's FTF to put any sort of verification code in any new cache I hide in the future either. Same here, I don't care enough about FTF to do anything to verify it. Link to comment
+tozainamboku Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 What happens if the FTL is not FTF? This is no problem what so ever. The FTF takes the FTF code from the cache, so is the only person who can claim the FTF log, regardless of when he or she actually enteres his or her log entry. Except, of course, if the FTF is not really into being FTF and doesn't take the code (or even know there is such a thing) and it is left in the cache. Link to comment
danoshimano Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 I do this with my FTFs. Link to comment
+dogbreathcanada Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 If it were FTLs (First to Logs) that people were interested in then implementing that would be a no-brainer. Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 I do this with my FTFs ... Link to comment
+yumitori Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Geocaching is non-competitive, so implementing a 'reward' stat for being first would change the nature of the sport. Just go check out the angst over in the thread on what really qualifies as a first find. And currently there's nothing on the line except perhaps a slightly better than usual trinket. Some folks care about being first and keep track for themselves. Some don't. Some like to record all the other geocachers they've met while on the hunt. Others just smile, say 'Hi', and move on. There's those who will tell you how far they hiked in a day, how many caches they found in a set amount of time, the number of states/countries/continents visited. And there's those who don't care. There's probably a million things we could track, and then everyone could become more worked up about who's winning and who's cheating and what it means. And that would destroy one of the great attractions of geocaching - It's not important if you were first or fiftieth, found five or five thousand caches, travel all over or stay in your own town, hike hours or drive to every container... If you are having fun, then that's what matters. Ron/yumitori Link to comment
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