+Combers Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Any reason why you can't use a Benchmark rod container like this: to hide a cache? I realize these hatches get popped from time to time by survey crews, but some are really out of the way and have not been visited for decades. Quote Link to comment
dampeoples Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 That's a neat idea, benchmark hybrid Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 I don't see why not, other than the fact that you're taking a chance that even though it hasn't been visited in 20 years, a survey crew will head out there a week after you placed your cache. Quote Link to comment
+GrizzlyJohn Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 I guess it would only matter in who was making the decision as to what defacing means. Quote Link to comment
+TEAM 360 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 I would have to say no, only because it's a bit of a grey area, and there are a couple of reasons that would dissuade me from placing a micro in there... Too many curious people might see the cover, and open it just to see what is in there: the cache might get taken. A survey crew could come along and open the cover: the cache might get taken. The covers don't seal airtight, they might fill up with water, and damage the cache. Lots of nasties like to hide in those spots, and you don't need a spider bite (unless you are plannng on being a superhero) or scorpion sting (here in the SW). Like I said, there are a couple of reasons to NOT place a micro in there, personally, I would not do it. Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 One reason to avoid using this ype of benchmark for a cache is if the rod is damaged (bent, dinged, moved, or in anyway disturbed) it loses it's worth as a benchmark and the cache hider may be visited by the 'setting agency' and fined, since they were indirectly responsible for the damage. John Quote Link to comment
+Marky Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 The best thing to do would be to figure out how to use the benchmark as a stage in a multi. I have one like this. --Marky Quote Link to comment
+Black Dog Trackers Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 I don't like the idea. The survey rod should not be subjected to stuff crammed in there as it could give the appearance that geocachers were damaging its integrity. It would be a very low probability that some mctoys or even a container of them would manage to bend the rod, but in this kind of situation the appearance of risking damage to the rod is what would count to the agencies who place the rod and to those who use it. I hunt benchmarks and have figured out that most users of benchmarks don't report to the NGS (National Geodetic Survey). I see new stakes and ribbons on benchmarks that have no NGS report for decades. So, there's no assurance that some really out of the way rods aren't visited every few months by surveying companies. I think using your own container is a good plan. Quote Link to comment
+seventhings Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 My two cents: I think it is a bad idea to stash caches in any benchmark housing (like the fairly common rod/logocap) for the several reasons cited, above. I suspect that the reponsible governmental agencies (Maryland State Highway Administration which has monumented hundreds of these rods, for example) would probably view such activity as (illegal) tampering/distubing. 7 Quote Link to comment
+AB4N Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 (edited) One reason to avoid using this ype of benchmark for a cache is if the rod is damaged (bent, dinged, moved, or in anyway disturbed) it loses it's worth as a benchmark and the cache hider may be visited by the 'setting agency' and fined, since they were indirectly responsible for the damage. John I think this is the best reason not to do it, who wants the men in black knockin'? Like Marky, I have an offset that uses a Benchmark Edited July 3, 2004 by AB4N Quote Link to comment
+JoGPS Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 I don’t think it’s a good idea, and I am always looking for a way to find two at once, but this ain’t the way and do agree with TEAM 360 wow did I said I agreed with Team 360, yep guess I did…………… JOE Quote Link to comment
+Muirwoody Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 I alert cachers to a nearby benchmark at my cache: Here Quote Link to comment
+Spoo Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 I do not think it is a good idea to be using U.S. Government or Sate owned Benchmarks as a Geocache hiding spot. Would you use other Government owned objects such as Post Office Mail Boxes to hide a cache? Quote Link to comment
+Beta Test Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 Perhaps you could make a cache container that looks like a benchmark that has been corroded and worn down over hundreds of years of time. Quote Link to comment
+Colorado Papa Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 I don't like the idea. The survey rod should not be subjected to stuff crammed in there as it could give the appearance that geocachers were damaging its integrity. It would be a very low probability that some mctoys or even a container of them would manage to bend the rod, but in this kind of situation the appearance of risking damage to the rod is what would count to the agencies who place the rod and to those who use it. I think using your own container is a good plan. I would only agree to using a benchmark as a reference point like in this cache. Otherwise, I agree with BDT that that one should not hide a cache in your suggested location. Quote Link to comment
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