+New England n00b Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Bigger than a film can, smaller than an ammo can. Where I hope to place a cache there is both a LOT of standing water and not much room to place a cache. Does anyone know if DECON boxes are sufficiently waterproof? As in, can they be half submerged in water and be OK? Anything that size work OK? Thanks for the suggestions... and inevitable Markwelling.. Quote Link to comment
+SnowLeopard Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 (edited) I have seen ammo cans that were much smaller than standard size (about 3x6x4). Or maybe you could try a PVP pipe that would sit upright (the bottom would be a waterproof plug, and the top would be above the water line). Edited April 25, 2004 by SnowLeopard Quote Link to comment
+TeamK-9 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Yah, I just bought an ammo can a week or two ago that's about 1/2 or 1/3 the size of a normal ammo can... Quote Link to comment
+fizzymagic Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Use a Pelican micro-case or one of those little waterproof cases for holding small items. The Pelican will probably last longer, but is considerably more expensive. Quote Link to comment
+gnbrotz Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 My local sporting goods store (Gander Mountain) has various sizes of clear plastic bottles with screw on caps. The go from even smaller than a film can to about the size of a soda can or slightly larger. Quote Link to comment
+New England n00b Posted April 25, 2004 Author Share Posted April 25, 2004 Interesting... The hiding place I am thinking may require a flat rather than round container to get the best size - the pelican box looks interesting. Maybe I can mfgr something myself.... Please keep the ideas coming! Quote Link to comment
Tahosa and Sons Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Look at some cookie tins, or the waterproof match containers, Quote Link to comment
+nfa Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 hi, how about a small ziplock inside a flat tupperware inside a gallon ziplock? nfa Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Lock 'n Lock containers. I love these things! Absolutely air and water tight and they come in every conceivable size and they're durable AND they're freakin' CHEAP!!! Quote Link to comment
+Lazyboy & Mitey Mite Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 You guys, ok..... nothing is waterproof forever. Just keep that in mind. Even if such a thing were available people open containers during rainstorms or near water and they get the contents wet inside anyhow. I've done "waterproof" containers and, they aren't Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 (edited) Military Surplus Decon Containers are waterproof. Just double check for the gasket. Edited April 26, 2004 by Renegade Knight Quote Link to comment
+Team Shibby Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 (edited) I wouldn't trust anything that has a snap on lid if there is great potential its going to be submerged. Something with a screw on lid with a rubber gasket is your best bet. Look into widemouth Nalgene bottles and other similar products. All you need to do now is think of a way to keep it from floating away! (a bag of stones or $1 worth of pennies ought to do the trick) Kar of TS!! Edited April 26, 2004 by Team Shibby Quote Link to comment
+Torry Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Check out the little beach safes they carry in the swim toys department. They're waterproof yet easy to open. Avoid the decon containers: Many cachers fail to close them securely. Quote Link to comment
+Etrex Pirate Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 My last cache was originally a beef jerky container purchased at my local 7-11. It is about 1 1/2" in diameter and about 8” long with a screw on airtight lid. It is clear thick plastic with a black lid but I gave mine a camo paint job. I don’t remember the name but they do have a smaller size that is about 1 ¼” in diameter and about 4” long. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Decon boxes do leak, so I'd rule them out. Lock 'n Locks are pretty good under normal circumstances, but I can't vouch for their effectiveness if fully submerged for any length of time. Consider Nalgene Straight Jars. They come in 2, 4, 8 and 16 oz sizes and are totally waterproof. Inexpensive too. Quote Link to comment
+Etrex Pirate Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 I ended up buying another one today. It is Chipper Brand beef Jerky. They even have a web site. Chipper. Here is a pick. Remember what other cache container comes packed with beef jerky to eat on the way to your hide Quote Link to comment
+Gazza&Girls Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 I kept two Lock&Lock containers submerged in a 30 gal. garbage can for 4 weeks to test them out. I intermittantly squeezed them and banged them about a bit. No leakage. Don't know how they'd do frozen in water, but I'm confident in them. I'd be wary of containers formerly used for food. That smell sticks around for awhile in the plastic. $.02 Quote Link to comment
+Lazyboy & Mitey Mite Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Those beef jerky containers are great and I've used them on a couple of caches. But again, nothing stays dry inside forever, in any container. You can get water resistant but you'll never buy waterproof. If you place it in water it will get wet, eventually. Quote Link to comment
+bigredmed Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Fuze cans from CheaperthanDirt.com. Screw on cap with an O-ring and all metal. Quote Link to comment
+rusty_tlc Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 A little bleach water soak will remove any food odor from a plastic container. Cookie tins in water sounds like a bad idea. Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Military Surplus Decon Containers are waterproof. Just double check for the gasket. You've had better luck than me then RK! I have found that they always leak under very wet conditions. Tupperware doesn't guarantee any of their containers to be air (or water) tight unless the lid is round. The decon containers are rectangular. What about a glass canning jar, with the thick rubber seal? Cover it in duct tape to eliminate the shattering hazard though. If they have to be tight enough to keep bacteria from growing inside and killing you when you eat the food, then they must be pretty tight. Quote Link to comment
+rusty_tlc Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 ... If they have to be tight enough to keep bacteria from growing inside and killing you when you eat the food, then they must be pretty tight. They actually have a vacuum seal when used to store food. During processing the filled jars are heated when they cool the contents contrtact forming a partial vacuum inside the jar. Might be hard to duplicate in the field. Quote Link to comment
+Criminal Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 ... If they have to be tight enough to keep bacteria from growing inside and killing you when you eat the food, then they must be pretty tight. They actually have a vacuum seal when used to store food. During processing the filled jars are heated when they cool the contents contrtact forming a partial vacuum inside the jar. Might be hard to duplicate in the field. OK so what do I know about canning? But that sort of proves the point, if it can keep a vacuum, then it can keep out water trying to push in from the outside, right? Quote Link to comment
+rusty_tlc Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 ... If they have to be tight enough to keep bacteria from growing inside and killing you when you eat the food, then they must be pretty tight. They actually have a vacuum seal when used to store food. During processing the filled jars are heated when they cool the contents contrtact forming a partial vacuum inside the jar. Might be hard to duplicate in the field. OK so what do I know about canning? But that sort of proves the point, if it can keep a vacuum, then it can keep out water trying to push in from the outside, right? Depends on how tight you screw the ring down. Plus the lids are intended for single use. Sorry. Besides If you can't put a knife in a cache why would you use glass to make a cache? Huh did you think of that? Quote Link to comment
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