+pstar Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 (edited) Was wondering if... 1) anyone was working on finding this cache? It has been around for quite awhile with no finds and 2) does anyone want to work as a team to find this cache? Blood & Guts in Virginia (aka Iron & Stone) GC73C2 Edited January 4, 2004 by pstar Quote Link to comment
+donbadabon Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 I am one of the 20 watching this cache, and waiting to see if any new info appears. One of the problems I have is that it seems so spread out, that maintenance on the cache would be an issue, and the last note from the owners was on July 4th, stating that stage 3 might be missing. It would be a bad thing to work so hard to solve it, only to find the stages are no longer there. I know boxermom has recently started looking into it too. She has a good analytical source, so if she stops by the forums, maybe she can join in. I am all for working on this as a team. But to be fair, I have no idea where to even start. Quote Link to comment
+BeachBuddies Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Yes, we are working on this.. not much progress so far though. I've done a few internet searchs and come up with a bit, but have not visited any possible sites yet. I'm all up for teaming on this though, someone sure needs to fine it! Quote Link to comment
+boxermom Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 I am all for working on a team to find this one. It has been out there too long. I have been doing some research into possible sites for the caches. I have not gone out searching yet. Quote Link to comment
+JoeCthulhu Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Uncle John and Spitwinkle are also working on this. IIRC at least one of them is one stage three. Quote Link to comment
+pstar Posted January 7, 2004 Author Share Posted January 7, 2004 I was thinking about visiting the main coordinates this weekend and pokin' around. There are several "Copper" named streets nearby. Should be something to find around there. Would probably be easier if a few of us met out there and bounced ideas around. If anyone is interested, let me know. I'm pretty open this weekend; just need to bag a couple of other caches in between so I can feel good. If not, I can poke around and report back. Maybe we could brainstorm at a Starbucks or something. Let me know. I'd love to meet some of you and put this cache in the "found" column. Bryan Quote Link to comment
+BeachBuddies Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 I could be up for that pstar. Not sure of my schedule yet; but Saturday is better than Sunday for me (usually). Quote Link to comment
+donbadabon Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 This sounds like a plan. Saturday would be better for me also. Quote Link to comment
+GLM Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 I would love to be included in the "team" that works on this one. I have a little inside information on stage one, but I'm not sure if it is proper to post it here, or keep it to private emails? Suggestions? On a another side note and subject, I am thinking of trying to get together a group to do Summer of '69 (GCC3DC). The next couple of days are suppose to remain really close to freezing all day which would make this an ideal time. I'll start another subject off the main forum so that these two caches won't get mixed up. Gary Quote Link to comment
+boxermom Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Saturday works for me also. Quote Link to comment
+pstar Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 Cool, this is great! I'll setup a little group email and we can go from there. I don't necessarily have a problem posting our progress in this forum unless there is a reason not to, such as we may be providing spoilers. I don't know if there is an official ruling on that. Stay tuned... Quote Link to comment
+JoeCthulhu Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 I work a hop skip and jump from stage one, and could meet there at lunchtime on a weekday. If you want to move this discussion somewhere else, I recommend moving them to: http://nova.mdgps.net/ For the Summer of 69 discussions too for that matter: Quote Link to comment
+hwyman Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 Agreed...this cache has been inactive for too long. Don't kid yourself...it's HARD and covers a huge amount of territory. I'm currently at Stage 2. I just discovered yesterday that I miscalculated, so I have to trash everything I've worked on so far. I'll be heading to the right site this weekend. Hopefully the heightened security will not be an issue. Good luck! The_Hwyman Quote Link to comment
+nikcap Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 Hey! Pretty cool here. I'm glad to see a group hunt is in store for this ... but as those that have gone before you can verify, I'm not sure this is the best approach ... not that we don't encourage a team effort here but ... well you'll see. Anyway, as 80% of this cache can be solved from the comfort of your home, feel free to tramps around in the mud, muck, cold and snow. Here are a couple items I'll though your way ... you shouldn't have to do anything that will put you in immediate danger or at the risk of getting arrested. If you find yourself up to something that you know is not right, then you probably doing something wrong. (makes sense) The whole cache is really nothing more then a big bad multi-virtual cache ... you just need to find the correct verification data from stage to stage. Think out of the box. (again, don't do anything stupid) Keep in mind, this cache was conceived and placed by a systems programmer, an engineer, a historian and a rocket scientist. Now, just to turn the heat up a bit. There are currently two seekers on stage four. They have been there for quit some time. I truely expected to meet the first one at the final cache July 4th, but it wasn't to be. Good luck All! Team Ekitt10 and the Dominion Crew Quote Link to comment
+Darth Null Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 I'm in, provided I don't have to run out of town for the day. I've been thinking about this for almost a year, but haven't really gotten anywhere on it (other than a reasonable guess for the location of Stage 2). I'd really like to see how a bunch of people putting their heads together could fare.... Is there a plan to meet somewhere first, somewhere warm, to talk about what we've done and ideas, before we go off into the cold? Quote Link to comment
+pstar Posted January 9, 2004 Author Share Posted January 9, 2004 Thanks for the post, ekitt10. Sounds like we'll need all the help and luck we can get. Rocket Scientist, eh? I've been called that before, although it seemed more derrogatory... Looks like we're all going to meet at stage one at 11:30am tomorrow, get a little dirty for fun, then brainstorm the remaining stages either at stage one or some place warmer, TBD. Quote Link to comment
+donbadabon Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 Excellent. 11:30 at stage 1. Just as an FYI, everyone does not need to muck it into stage 1. We have volunteers to do the dirty work. Also, I am all for heading to stage 2 afterwards to see what is there. ekitt10, is the companion sheet still available? I sent an e-mail earlier in the week, but haven't heard anything in return. Quote Link to comment
+Titmouse Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 I guess I'm one of the two at stage 4. I've worked this by myself, starting in a snowstorm Jan 2003. The last stage has discouraged me, but with all the interest at the moment, I'm feeling the nail once again. When I'm into it, I can't think of anything else. Good luck to all who are gathering tomorrow to start. I certainly would enjoy working with someone--to be able to toss ideas back and forth. Quote Link to comment
+pstar Posted January 10, 2004 Author Share Posted January 10, 2004 Congrats on stage 4, titmouse. I can think of a half dozen cachers to bounce stage 4 ideas off of; you just have to help get us there! Quote Link to comment
+GLM Posted January 10, 2004 Share Posted January 10, 2004 Thanks Guys and Gals for making the time 11:30. I just got home and it's 1:15am. That will give me enough sleep and I'll be there at stage one. See what we find at stage one and go from there. Thanks again for changing the time. Gary Quote Link to comment
+Krandor Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 If it is not too late to join I would like to participate in this one. Quote Link to comment
+2BIG3LITTLE Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Sorry folks...didn't see your posts for this event. I want in if there is still room for cache II. I have the clues for cache #1 but have not had a chance to visit the cache #2 location. I have done quite a bit research on the internet (lot's of printed info) and consulted with ekitt10 on multiple occassions. I would be happy to share my info if you all want to get together again soon! Thanks, 2BIG3LITTLE Quote Link to comment
+BeachBuddies Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 2BIG3LITTLE and Krandor (and others?): Although I'm sure we could use your help, I think you might want to just start a second group -- I think there would be enough interest from other local cachers. Our group already has 12 people, and it's a bit tricky to organize outings with that many. Also, we're far enough along that you'd miss out on some of the fun I think. We'd be happy to offer our encouragement (without giving too much away of course). The main reason for attempting this very difficult cache is for the incredible challenges it offers. One of the first things we did was to create a Yahoo group, so we could keep in touch, and update everyone on our progress. That's been a huge help. We already have some 250 messages, as well as lots of pictures and links that we've shared. How about it folks? Anyone interested in starting another team? Quote Link to comment
+bob393 Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 WoW I wish I was down there, sounds like ahhhh fun..... Quote Link to comment
+Huntnlady Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I would appreciate your impressions and information on this cache for the article I am writing in the first issue of Today's Cacher. Many people are very interested in this cache, and if you'll notice there are now 53 watchers on it. Click on my profile and email me, please. Quote Link to comment
+Krandor Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Sorry to hear it is too late to join. Since it looks like all the main people interested are in the first group, looks like this will be a did-not-find. I would have been interested in the challenge but don't see how I can do it alone. I will try to start a second group anyway however I fear all the people who really want to do this are in the first group. Quote Link to comment
+hwyman Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Krandor, Not everyone reads this forum...I know I didn't until someone mentioned it in the log. I suggest you advertise your new group in the log so those 53 other people will be aware of it. I'm pretty sure that's how the first group got started. Hwy Quote Link to comment
+pstar Posted January 31, 2004 Author Share Posted January 31, 2004 TeamNoVa12 has found this cache! What a happy group of cachers! Good luck to the second team. It is well worth the experience! Cheers! Quote Link to comment
+BeachBuddies Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 (edited) There are definitely enough folks interested to start a second team. Several had posted here, and I know TeacherMatt is another. Someone just needs to start a Yahoo group, and believe me, there will be people who want to join. Searching for this cache was great experience, but the best part was meeting all the other cachers. I'm pretty sure this is going to lead to the start of an active caching club in NoVa. Keep your eyes open for more news soon! EDIT: Ah, I see you've already got the Yahoo group ready to go. Here's a link to the Group 2 forum in case anyone else missed it: Blood & Guts, Team 2 Good luck to the next team! Edited January 31, 2004 by BeachBuddies Quote Link to comment
+Krandor Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Yes I started a yahoo group for a second group. Anybody interested needs to send me their email address so I can add them to the group. I will post this on the cache page as well. Quote Link to comment
+Team J&J Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Congratulations Team NOVA12!! All you First Finders are saying great things about this cache and I hope it inspires more in the NOVA area, DC and MD to do some creative mystery caches. I know I've learned a lot about cryptography and codes just from the few that I've done so far. I've completed step 1 for this cache and found step 2....just working on deciphering. But I've also had a big breakthrough in research which hints at the other clues. It makes me want to take a week or two off just to work this one!! C'ya out there on the trails! -SailorJim Quote Link to comment
+GLM Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 It makes me want to take a week or two off just to work this one!! Trust me, Team NoVa12 knows that feeling all too well!!! And it doesn't get any better either! The more you work on it, the more you "want" to work on it. Gary Quote Link to comment
+Team J&J Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Howdy all! Well, I'm starting ANOTHER group to look for this cache. I've been thinking on this one awhile now and have reached a mental brickwall, so I think I need a fresh perspective from other folks. If interested, please drop me a line at stmx3NOSPAM@NOSPAMnetscape.net (remove the NOSPAM). Thanks! SailorJim Quote Link to comment
+Skadog Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Is this a day trip, a weekend excursion or what? Quote Link to comment
+BeachBuddies Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 It took TeamNoVa12 almost a solid month to solve it. The actual driving and such could be done in a weekend. Quote Link to comment
+Team J&J Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Definitely not a day trip. Depending on how much effort is put forth, I envision it involving visiting each stage with a week or more to figure out the clues to get to the next stage. At least, it's taken me a couple of weeks on stage 2 and I can't get beyond it even now (although I am edging closer to a solution). Many folks have told me that it takes the right perspective which may only come from a team member who has the right background. -SailorJim Quote Link to comment
+Skadog Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Sounds like my kind of cache, time permitting. I just moved to Reading, PA, from what I can tell by limited map research, it would take about four hours to get to this area. Quote Link to comment
+donbadabon Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 (edited) The team can actually have people working remotely on the clues. We had people that couldn't make it to the specific stages, so we would take pictures and post them to the yahoo group. That way everyone could work on solving the clues. This works very well, since the mental involvement significantly outweighs the physical. Edited February 13, 2004 by donbadabon Quote Link to comment
+MissJenn Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 That was an awesome story about Your Group in Today's Cacher. Kudos to y'all! Quote Link to comment
+BeachBuddies Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 They did do a nice job with a story, considering how tight-lipped we all were. We wanted to tell them the whole story (in fact one our our team, pstar I believe, wrote up a detailed 30-page journal of the whole experience). But we've been sworn to secrecy, so we couldn't say much. Solving a hard cachs as part of a team is definitely a great experience. Quote Link to comment
+pstar Posted February 28, 2004 Author Share Posted February 28, 2004 No 30-page journal from me! However, I did do a compilation of our Yahoo! group thread topics for future use, like on a team T-shirt or something. It does contain spoilers so it can't be used just anywhere. Quote Link to comment
+Krandor Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 still looking for people to form another group to work on this cache. Contact me and I will invite you to the Yahoo group. Quote Link to comment
+Krandor Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 Since there has been another B&G groups formed since I tried to form mine, people should join that one and I am disbanding mine. Quote Link to comment
+donbadabon Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Congratulations to Team FRED4 on their success! Welcome to the only club in town where the phrase "cold, clear waters" brings back a lot of memories, and a smile. Quote Link to comment
+pstar Posted March 16, 2004 Author Share Posted March 16, 2004 Specifically, it brings back memories of frostbite! Quote Link to comment
+GeoTromper Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 The next team is under way. There are about three of us that have been to the first coordinates. I thought I would offer a final invitation before we got into full swing. You can e-mail geotromper@comcast.net or snailman22030@comcast.net Quote Link to comment
+Snailman22030 Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Good Grief! GeoTromper in the Geocaching forums!? WOW! Somehow I never thought she would set foot.... Hey guys! This was all her idea! I'm lost! She's the genious behind this endeavor! I'll help where I can but, hey! I'm just a mailman not a rocket scientist! Quote Link to comment
avroair Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 How many 'teams' are currently working on this one? Quote Link to comment
+splicingdan Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 I know of one, but they don't have a name yet. Heard they're doing well. Quote Link to comment
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