+Geo13 Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 Someone sent me an email criticizing my wife and me for finding 1500+ caches having established only two virtual caches. We travel all over the US and Canada and are rarely in one place for a long period of time. We have refused to put out regular caches which we will be unable to maintain. Please tell me what you think! To satisfy some who think we should not find caches since we have not put out any regular ones, should we put some out even though we will not be able to check on them or maintain them or should we ignore this email? Thanks for your help! We love geocaching and look forward to putting out a number of them when we settle in one place. We are 70 and 69 respectively. Geo13 bunng@aol.com Quote
+Criminal Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 Here’s me saying “Thank you for finding so many caches!” I love to read happy find reports from geocachers just like you. Don’t sweat it. Quote
+CO Admin Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 Someone sent me an email criticizing my wife and me for finding 1500+ caches having established only two virtual caches. We travel all over the US and Canada and are rarely in one place for a long period of time. We have refused to put out regular caches which we will be unable to maintain. Please tell me what you think! To satisfy some who think we should not find caches since we have not put out any regular ones, should we put some out even though we will not be able to check on them or maintain them or should we ignore this email? Thanks for your help! We love geocaching and look forward to putting out a number of them when we settle in one place. We are 70 and 69 respectively. Geo13 bunng@aol.com The heck with them, tell them to mind their own business and to get out and cache more instead of worrying about something that is none of their business. Quote
+Planet Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 I think you are doing the right and responsible thing by not placing caches you cannot maintain. Good on ya! Don't let what those others say bother you. I think it's wonderful that people of your age are enjoying life to the fullest and that geocaching has become a part your life. Keep up the good sport and the heck with the others! Enjoy life to it's fullest. If you do settle in one spot, then you can think about placing a cache, but don't place one you can't maintain just to satisfy a few whiners. Quote
+The Leprechauns Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 Hey, I would like to thank you for following the rules and NOT placing caches which you are not in a position to maintain. You are doing the right thing. Even if you DID stay put in one place, there is no rule that says anyone HAS to place a cache. Some people contribute just as much to the sport by practicing CITO, performing cache repairs, moving travel bugs or even just writing a nice "found it" log. Quote
bug and snake Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 Someone actually checked your profile for that reason? To make that kind of comment in an e-mail? Someome needs to get a life! Keep on caching! Quote
+ShadowAce Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 My family and I have not been Geocaching for long. We began in early Oct. and we have found 70 so far. We love it (I more then she, I have already heard the word obsession from her) Anyways.. I am still trying to see what people think and do via these forums and I am deciding I had a somewhat incorrect idea from what I read at first. We have been out looking for a cache and come across people ourselves and this is when we go _Stealth mode_ and hide. Bear in mind having a 3 and 7 year old hide int he desert is not the simplest task, but it is fun. We have watched people walk past us with printed geocache forms. Normally we do not get involved with them or even look them in the eye. Why? Because I kept reading about 'be careful not to be seen' and such.. We have taken this to be a game.. Something like the old treasure hunt games.. (Never explain to the man why you need a 10 foot blow up dolphine! Am I rambling? Yes! I have nejoyed the game as we play it. My kids have enjoyed the game as we play it. None have been hurt by our way of playing. No rules have been broken by our way of playing! No small dogs or hamsters have been harmed in the making of our games. My children have had a blast learning about the city they live in and all the interesting things about it. We have not hidden a single cache yet either. Why? There is no rule in the game about how many you have to hide per every # you find. CACHE ON! and if someone does not like what you do, remember always that you dont have to keep them happy. Happiness is what we owe to our family and friends; strangers can make there own happiness and I am willing to share, not responsible for. Quote
+BeachBuddies Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 I really enjoy hiding caches, at least as much as finding them. If you like, you could arrange with a local cacher to maintain a cache for you. You could do the preparation work and actually hide the cache. For example, I'm maintaining one of CCCooper's caches near where I live. She added my name onto the "cache placed by" line on the web page. I added myself onto the cache Watch list, so I can see if there are any problems with it. In any case, I wouldn't worry about that e-mail. I'm just offering this as a suggestion in case you want to enjoy another aspect of the game. If you happen to come out my way (N. VA) and would like to work out some arrangement like this, I'd be happy to maintain a cache for you. -J (BeachBuddies) Quote
+The Leprechauns Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 (edited) No small dogs or hamsters have been harmed in the making of our games. Uhhhh, well, I haven't harmed any small dogs, anyways. But some hamsters have been terribly inconvenienced. Edited December 2, 2003 by The Leprechauns Quote
+BeachBuddies Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 We have not hidden a single cache yet either. Why? There is no rule in the game about how many you have to hide per every # you find. True, there is no rule about this. However, there wouldn't be a game if people didn't hide caches. Personally, I try to keep my find-to-hide ratio around 20-to-1. But I agree no one should hide caches they can't maintain; or hide a lame cache just for the sake of hiding one. But I do feel that contributing to the game is important, and hiding caches is the most direct way of doing that. Quote
SLCDave Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 You should post the stats of the person who contacted you in this rude manner. Let's see what we can nit-pick about them! Quote
+carleenp Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 Some people like to hide caches, some like to find them, and some like to do both. There is no right or wrong. I'm surprised that someone would send you an email like that! Quote
+Renegade Knight Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 Your cache placed to post ratio looks good. Your find to post ratio even better. You are cleared for posting in the forums as a real cacher. I've been accused of being a caching moron becaus of more posts than finds. If you didn't place caches that you can't maintain that was the right decision. If you sign your logs with more than TNLN then more power to you. Some people find, some seek, some post, and some dream up ratios for us all to live by. Three of those are more fun at a party. Quote
+welch Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 Someone sent me an email criticizing my wife and me for finding 1500+ caches having established only two virtual caches. We travel all over the US and Canada and are rarely in one place for a long period of time. We have refused to put out regular caches which we will be unable to maintain. Please tell me what you think! To satisfy some who think we should not find caches since we have not put out any regular ones, should we put some out even though we will not be able to check on them or maintain them or should we ignore this email? If the shoe doesn't fit (or apply) then don't worry about it. Quote
+Marky Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 First off, congrats on finding 1500+ caches! I bet you've been to some really great places you wouldn't have if not for geocaching. Secondly, thank you so much for not putting out caches that you are unable to maintain. That would only hurt the sport. I hope that in your travels you might someday swing by our area and find a few of our caches. Kind regards, --Marky Quote
+briansnat Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 (edited) Some people like to find 'em, some like to hide 'em [edit: Sorry Carleen, I wasn't copying...I just didn't read your post]. Without people like you, my caches would sit in the cold woods, unvisited and lonesome . Personally, I'd rather people like you, who prefer to find caches, stick with what you do best. Please don't feel obligated to sprinkle a bunch of lame micros around just to fill what some think should be your "quota" of hides. Early on, I tried to keep a 1:1 hide/find ratio, but once I passed 50 hides I decided that that was my limit. I recall being criticized one time because I had more hides than finds. Ya just can't win! Edited December 2, 2003 by briansnat Quote
+JMBella Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 I just have 1 thing to say... Congratulations on your 1500th find! And in less than 2 years holy cow! Quote
+Navdog Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 Personally, I'd rather people like you, who prefer to find caches, stick with what you do best. Please don't feel obligated to sprinkle a bunch of lame micros around just to fill what some think should be your "quota" of hides. I'll second Briansnats opinion above, but with someone who has 1500 finds like you, I would think you have seen enough good and bad caches to put together a really challenging and enjoyable cache or two. Quote
+pstar Posted December 2, 2003 Posted December 2, 2003 I would reply the same that you have done here in the forums. I would also cut/paste all of these supportive responses and include them in your reply. I think they'll get the picture! Peace. Quote
+xenophon10k Posted December 3, 2003 Posted December 3, 2003 As a response to their criticism, I think you should send them the URL to this thread. Maybe that will give them some perspective. Quote
+BeachBuddies Posted December 3, 2003 Posted December 3, 2003 Some people find, some seek, some post, and some dream up ratios for us all to live by. Three of those are more fun at a party. Some people go to the trouble of throwing parties, and others just show up. By the way, I know you've hidden many caches Renegade, and I for one appreciate it. Quote
+carleenp Posted December 3, 2003 Posted December 3, 2003 Some people like to find 'em, some like to hide 'em [edit: Sorry Carleen, I wasn't copying...I just didn't read your post]. Of course you weren't copying. You actually usually beat me to posting similar thoughts! Many times I got ready to post something and then... you beat me to it!!! Anyway, the rest of what you and others said about finders being why people hide caches and how it is good to not hide when they can't be maintained is right on. Basically, I think there isn't really any disagreement on this one. To each his or her own. Find and hide at any ratio that is responsible and works for the individual. I'm still surprised that such an email was sent. If anyone disagrees, I am curious to hear why. Quote
+Bloencustoms Posted December 3, 2003 Posted December 3, 2003 I've seen examples of hides where the hider has not found any caches. Personally, I think you should continue to enjoy caching and not worry about how many caches you have hidden. Quote
+gerper Posted December 3, 2003 Posted December 3, 2003 I too would like to thank you for being responsible and not placing caches for which you cannot maintain! It is pretty tempting to place caches, and I applaud you for not doing so when you travel so much. I say, seek on and find caches until your hearts content. As for the person who critisized you, they are just jealous. Quote
+geomaineiacs Posted December 3, 2003 Posted December 3, 2003 Before I go for a cache, I check the log carefully to make sure it is in an interesting place and worth the effort. I would guess that I reject about 25% just because they look boring. Then I would say that about 10% of those I find are still not very good or haven't been checked by the owner in a long time. I have found about 40 and placed only 2, because I want to make them as interesting and unique as possible. So I am in full support of quality over quantity when it comes to new caches. Quote
+Doc-Dean Posted December 3, 2003 Posted December 3, 2003 Someone sent me an email criticizing my wife and me for finding 1500+ caches having established only two virtual caches. We travel all over the US and Canada and are rarely in one place for a long period of time. We have refused to put out regular caches which we will be unable to maintain. Simple and easy solution to their email.... Click Delete and forgetaboutit! 1500 finds is awesome! I hope to travel the US someday the way you describe. Maybe then my find count will go up! Quote
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