+Goblin Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I like hiking the AT. Has anyone compiled a list of which caches might be on, or very close (.5 miles) off the AT? I know one in VA (Lean2Rock) and 4 in MD (Hoffa's Cache, The Truth, Blair Witch Cache and Tinkers Folly #1) and two in NJ (Normanock and Night at the Leanto). Anyone know of any others? Quote Link to comment
+ED634 Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 There's 2 more in Vernon on the AT trail Quote Link to comment
+Metaphor Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Add Stonewall Regiment Cache 1, Clang, A Monumental View, and Lake View from 1700 to your Maryland AT List. This would be a cool project to buid a compendium of AT accessible caches... "All of us are standing in the mud, but some of us are looking at the stars." Oscar Wilde Quote Link to comment
+Goblin Posted November 29, 2002 Author Share Posted November 29, 2002 If you post a reply please name the caches so trips can be planned. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
+Trudy & the beast Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 You can locate these using any map with grid references. Mark the trail on the map, then mark selected waypoints along the trail. Determine the longitude and latitude for each WP in DD.ddd format. remember that longitude in the W. hemisphere is negative. Enter the coordinate sets in the appropriate boxes on the GC.com hide/seek page and it will return a list of caches with distance and bearing from the WP you have entered. Using WP with L/L 39.480 -77.620 as an example, gives Stonewall Regiment cache 1 at 0.1mi N; A Monumental View at 1.4mi N etc. Of course if you want to know which are viewed as the best, you will have to scan the logs or come to these forums for recommendations. Keep on caching! the beast Quote Link to comment
+Goblin Posted November 29, 2002 Author Share Posted November 29, 2002 Beast, A couple of the ones I listed I did in the manner you suggested. But then you have to bring up each cache page to see if it says it is on the AT (in may really be in a park near the AT but far enough off to not make it worthwhile) and/or bring up the TopoZone to see if it's on the AT. I was hoping people would just name then to make compiling the list easier. Quote Link to comment
+Zhanna Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Some AT caches that I really enjoyed: Rutherford View (CoFR) Sticks and Stones Smith Gap Cache Appalachian Spur am Blauen Berg BOK Joy Mars Cache Wolf Rocks They're all in Pennsylvania except Rutherford View, which is in New Jersey. Zhanna Quote Link to comment
+geospotter Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 You HAVE to include this one! Check out my log for the cache. geospotter Quote Link to comment
+2dest Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 There are many caches along the A.T. in my neck of the woods. I am in central VA. Here are some, although I am sure I left out some great ones. Sorry, you will have to cut and paste. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=38561 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=32292 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=32288 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=32301 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=39302 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=592 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=32427 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=41545 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=6059 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=10561 Quote Link to comment
+Waterboy Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 There are plenty of AT caches. Below are a number that we have been to and have not been mentioned yet. First in Pennsylvania: Starbuckian Dream Stony mt. Stash* The General* Ghost Town Cache Five Hundred Steps The Real Swatara Path?* Not the Swatara Path Oh Danny boy No Hints #2 No Hints Cache In New Jersey: Dreamcatcher* Rocky Mountain Way PointPLMD* Limpidity-2: ^^^ High Point ^^^* Covert-002* New York/New Jersey Multi-State Multi-Cache** In New York: Island View* Anthony Wayne Trails* * = Not within 200 yards of AT, but within 0.5 miles ** = One or more components of multicache is near AT. Caches have been listed in order of South to North. [This message was edited by Waterboy With Wife (www) on November 29, 2002 at 01:42 PM.] Quote Link to comment
+Zhanna Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 ...for reminding me that I still need to get to your "No Hints" caches! I hear they're great. ~Zh~ Quote Link to comment
+Waterboy Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Posted in error Quote Link to comment
mortonfox Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 Dutchess County, New York: Pearly Gates The First Days Are The Hardest Days cache (not exactly on the AT but close) Symmetric Hurd (under 500 ft from AT) Bloop! This One's for Freedom Harley's Hide-away HIGH way THRILLS Litchfield County, Connecticut: Tetazoo Did it still make a sound? Westchester County, New York: n_Se (maybe only a few hundred feet from the AT but I did not use that approach!) Rockland County, New York: PERKINS DRIVE (short walk from AT) Special cache..My 20th Island View (not a long walk from AT) Virgin Booty (about 700 ft from AT) GREEN POND MTN # 2 (not a long walk from AT) [This message was edited by StayFloopy on November 29, 2002 at 05:13 PM.] Quote Link to comment
+Goblin Posted December 1, 2002 Author Share Posted December 1, 2002 Thanks to everyone who replied. Here is what I have so far. Sorted on coords and in descending order. State Cache Name Coords Latitude Longitude CT Did It Still Make A Sound? N 41° 46.886 W 073° 25.020 CT Tetazoo N 41° 40.269 W 073° 30.334 NY The First Days Are The Hardest Days Cache N 41° 38.149 W 073° 32.151 NY Pearly Gates N 41° 38.144 W 073° 32.883 NY Bloop! N 41° 36.183 W 073° 36.497 NY Harley’s Hide-Away N 41° 36.090 W 073° 38.800 NY Symmetric Hurd N 41° 35.645 W 073° 35.645 NY This One’s For Freedom N 41° 34.414 W 073° 40.647 NY HIGH way THRILLS N 41° 32.725 W 073° 43.120 NJ Limpidity-2: ^^^ High Point ^^^ N 41° 20.016 W 074° 39.083 NJ PointPLMD N 41° 19.879 W 074° 39.190 NJ One Down Forty-Nine To Go N 41° 19.264 W 074° 39.693 NY N_SE N 41° 19.111 W 073° 58.561 NY Perkins Drive N 41° 18.441 W 074° 00.147 NY Anthony Wayne Trails N 41° 17.062 W 074° 01.464 NJ Rutherford View N 41° 16.809 W 074° 40.825 NY Special Cache – My 20th N 41° 16.324 W 074° 05.688 NY Green Pond Mtn #2 N 41° 15.541 W 074° 09.244 NY Island View N 41° 15.511 W 074° 08.632 NY Virgin Booty N 41° 15.486 W 074° 08.688 NJ Rocky Mountain Way N 41° 14.896 W 074° 41.205 NJ Up On Top N 41° 12.725 W 074° 45.127 NJ Normanock N 41° 10.789 W 074° 46.757 NJ Night At The Leanto N 41° 09.204 W 074° 50.248 NJ Dreamcatcher N 41° 00.155 W 075° 04.068 PA Wolf Rocks N 40° 55.421 W 075° 13.464 PA No Hints Cache N 40° 51.020 W 075° 19.748 PA Smith Gap Cache N 40° 49.262 W 075° 26.193 PA Appalachian Spur am Blauen Berg N 40° 48.489 W 075° 31.027 PA Mars Cache N 40° 48.254 W 075° 33.139 PA (CoFR) Sticks and Stones N 40° 47.440 W 075° 35.866 PA Turnpike Gamelands N 40° 46.289 W 075° 38.678 PA BOK Joy N 40° 44.960 W 075° 44.024 PA Three County Trek - Almost N 40° 40.647 W 075° 53.431 PA No Hints #2 N 40° 40.606 W 075° 53.598 PA Oh Danny Boy N 40° 39.503 W 075° 56.705 PA None The Weiser 2 N 40° 36.633 W 075° 58.965 PA Weiser Trail N 40° 36.137 W 075° 58.506 PA The Real Swatara Path? N 40° 32.042 W 076° 12.787 PA Eagles Nesst N 40° 31.825 W 076° 09.120 PA Not The Swatara Path N 40° 31.715 W 076° 12.141 PA High Country N 40° 31.397 W 076° 16.700 PA Geocache N 40° 31.184 W 076° 19.811 PA Five Hundred Steps N 40° 30.490 W 076° 18.628 PA Ghost Town Cache N 40° 29.976 W 076° 35.897 PA The General N 40° 29.312 W 076° 38.573 PA Stony Mt. Stash N 40° 28.520 W 076° 40.614 PA Starbuckian Dream N 40° 26.872 W 076° 45.999 PA Mountain Creek Bike Trail N 40° 02.764 W 077° 15.243 PA Over The River & Through The Woods N 40° 02.510 W 077° 17.670 PA Steeple Chase N 40° 01.930 W 077° 16.020 PA Bass Ackwards N 40° 01.880 W 077° 17.510 PA Halfway AT Heaven N 40° 01.825 W 077° 17.226 PA Hairy Spring Cache N 40° 00.748 W 077° 23.821 PA Big Flat Ridge Cache N 39° 59.150 W 077° 26.063 PA Leaders’ Summit N 39° 49.138 W 077° 28.249 PA Raccoon Run Cache N 39° 48.885 W 077° 28.898 PA Deer Lick N 39° 45.980 W 077° 29.068 MD High-Rock N 39° 41.723 W 077° 31.395 MD Lakeview from 1700 N 39° 33.490 W 077° 35.920 MD Clang N 39° 32.131 W 077° 36.250 MD Welcome to Maryland N 39° 31.618 W 077° 36.247 MD A Monumental View N 39° 30.050 W 077° 37.398 MD Stonewall Regiment Cache 1 N 39° 28.871 W 077° 37.169 MD Tinkers Folly #1 N 39° 24.349 W 077° 38.368 MD Blair Witch Cache N 39° 24.345 W 077° 38.352 MD Hoffa’s Cache N 39° 24.100 W 077° 38.428 MD The Truth N 39° 23.281 W 077° 38.676 MD Pterodactyl mountain exploration #1 (watch-tower) N 39° 19.917 W 077° 40.587 WV A Step Above N 39° 19.355 W 077° 43.996 VA Lean2Rock N 38° 52.798 W 078° 06.477 VA At The Rock N 38° 39.003 W 078° 19.056 VA Stony Man Cliff N 38° 35.911 W 078° 22.419 VA Viking Treasure Cave N 38° 31.575 W 078° 25.281 VA Big Flat Mountain N 38° 14.922 W 078° 40.438 VA Blackrock Basin N 38° 13.220 W 078° 44.430 VA Raven’s Roost Climbers Cache N 37° 56.024 W 078° 57.173 VA Raven’s Roost Non-Climbers Cache N 37° 56.019 W 078° 57.150 VA Tar Jacket Cache N 37° 45.931 W 079° 11.462 VA Hog Camp Cache N 37° 45.601 W 079° 11.795 VA Hog Wall N 37° 44.889 W 079° 12.090 VA Yakity-Yak Cache N 37° 28.867 W 079° 40.729 VA 9 Mile Cache N 37° 36.323 W 079° 23.275 VA CrachCache N 37° 44.562 W 079° 13.262 VA PG19 N 37° 34.480 W 079° 26.504 VA Little Ottie II / Bluff Mtn. N 37° 39.602 W 079° 20.795 VA Big Rocky Row N 37° 37.803 W 079° 23.656 VA Cold Mountain Geocache N 37° 45.058 W 079° 12.290 VE It is High, It is Far and It is Orange N 42° 58.670 W 073° 04.285 Quote Link to comment
enfanta Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 I probably shouldn't open this can of worms but... "You will be in violation of federal regulation by placing a cache in any area administered by the National Park Service (US)." (geocaching.com) "... a summary of the rules and regulations set and enforced by the National Park Service (NPS) for the NPS-acquired A.T. corridor — approximately 500 miles along the length of the Trail." (http://www.appalachiantrail.org/hike/hike_info/regs.html) Anyone else see a conflict here?? (Wait a sec, let me get into my asbestos suit... there! Flame away!) Quote Link to comment
+MountainMudbug Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 I just compiled a list of about 30 caches from the southern terminus in Georgia through North Carolina, Tennessee, and part of Virginia. After reading the 'can of worms' post I've decided I won't list them here so they don't fall into that. If anyone is interested, email me and I'll email the list to you. ______________________________________________________________________ Remember that happiness is a way of travel, not a destination. - Roy M. Goodman Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 Two more in NJ. Pochuck Bypass and the Vernon Cache. "You can't make a man by standing a sheep on its hind legs, but by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" -Max Beerbohm Quote Link to comment
+ZingerHead Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 Yep, you *shouldn't* place traditionals on NPS land. This virtual cache in CT is OK though. Quote Link to comment
+Alan2 Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 Wait. I'm confused. Just because it a AT doesn't mean it's federal land, does it? I mean the AT travels through Harriman Park which is a NYS park. So what's this all about? Alan Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 quote: Wait. I'm confused. Just because it a AT doesn't mean it's federal land, does it? I mean the AT travels through Harriman Park which is a NYS park. So what's this all about? The AT goes through a variety of public lands, administered by many agencies. There are some sections that are administered by the NPS. A section in NJ that comes to mind is the part that runs through the Delaware Watergap National Recreation Area. Only a portion of the AT runs through lands controlled by the NPS. So most of the caches mentioned here are probably legal, since the NPS seems to agressively seek out and remove "illegal" geocaches. "You can't make a man by standing a sheep on its hind legs, but by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" -Max Beerbohm [This message was edited by BrianSnat on December 02, 2002 at 06:31 PM.] Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 According to the link posted by Enfanta, about 750 of the AT's 2,100+ miles are administered by the NPS. 250 miles of the trail are on the following NPS lands: Blue Ridge Parkway, C & O Canal National Historical Park, Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area, Harpers Ferry National Historical Park, Shenandoah National Park, and the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. The remaining 500 miles are broken into non-contiguious sections purchased by the NPS. These are often very narrow; sometimes not much wider than the trail itself. "You can't make a man by standing a sheep on its hind legs, but by standing a flock of sheep in that position, you can make a crowd of men" -Max Beerbohm Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 oops, was trying out mypop Quote Link to comment
+jonboy Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Technically, all the AT corridor that is not state or National Forest land is national park Land, whether or not it is administered by the NPS. In practice, it is very difficult to tell who owns the land of any particular part of the AT corridor, without inside knowledge. In New Jersey, apart from the Delaware Water Gap parkland, most of the corridor is state owned, as they aquired the land prior to the aquisitions under the National Scenic Trails Act. In New York, most of the land is NPS land, apart from the PIPC parkland in Harriman and a few easements where the land is still owned by the original owners, such as the Pawling Nature Preserve. On most of the land in our area, the trail is maintained by ATC member clubs and law enforcement is delegated to the local authorities. Due to these divided authorities, placements of caches on these lands have not routinely been challenged, but they remain outlawed under the overarching NPS authority. Such being the case, it might not be wise formulate long lists of caches of dubious legality on this discussion forum, less it provoke a crackdown by some websurfing NPS purist. Quote Link to comment
+MissJenn Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 I was about to start a thread MUCH like this one, but thanks to the awesome SEARCH function, I did not have to. I guess I'll just bump it up. ----- You must be present to win. Quote Link to comment
+Berserkr Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Sorry to dig up an old topic, But would it be safe to say it is ok to place a cache on the AT trail that is owned by the State of Pennsylvania? Thanks Berserkr Quote Link to comment
+Stripes17 Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Add this one at the Maryland Pennsylvania border area: Cache Name: AT Pen Mar Waypoint: GCH4VD It's an offset cache that we just did it yesterday. It's just up the trail from the High Rock cache you already listed. Quote Link to comment
+gnbrotz Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 I think it would be safe to place a cache accessible from the AT, but due to the fact that it is very hard to determine who actually owns the trail in a given area, keep it far enough off the trail that it wouldn't actually be on the "trail corridor". How far is that? I don't really know, but I'd say over 50' would be reasonable. Also, if the location you have in mind (in PA) is on state park or state forest land, you will need to get the appropriate permission from DCNR. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 I think it would be safe to place a cache accessible from the AT, but due to the fact that it is very hard to determine who actually owns the trail in a given area, keep it far enough off the trail that it wouldn't actually be on the "trail corridor". How far is that? I don't really know, but I'd say over 50' would be reasonable. The width of the trail corridor varies. I second Jonboy's old post (why was this dredged up anyway?) and drop this subject. Quote Link to comment
+JMBella Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 Here's my cache just off the AT in Warwick, NYThe Waterfall. A fairly easy hike up a great little waterfall. Quote Link to comment
+gnbrotz Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 The width of the trail corridor varies. I did a bit more digging, and while the goal of the ATC is to establish a 1000' trail corridor over the entire length of the trail (only 4 of 14 states currently completed due to much private ownership), their own site states that in some parts the corridor "is only a few hundred feet wide". I agree that compiling a list in a forum is not the best idea, but being able to establish where the hard boundaries are in a given area would be a great asset for those cachers who do everything in their power to follow established polices as they apply to geocaching. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 Such being the case, it might not be wise formulate long lists of caches of dubious legality on this discussion forum, less it provoke a crackdown by some websurfing NPS purist. Agreed! Quote Link to comment
+opey one Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 (edited) Up In The Woods Cache GC26BD N 36 39.424 W 081 40.810 Creeper Cache GCEAA N 36 38.881 W 081 40.725 These two are intermingled with the Virginia Creeper Trail and are definately worthy of a visit. Edited March 9, 2004 by opey one Quote Link to comment
+carleenp Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 Would someone please arrange for me to win the lottery so I can quit my job and backpack the AT? Thank you! Quote Link to comment
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