Superteam Challenge

[+Pharisee]

Would anyone be interested in a bit of ‘competitive’ geocaching?

What I had in mind was a ‘Superteam Challenge’ running along the following lines:

 

1) Each ‘Superteam’ would consist of at least 3 teams or individuals (no upper limit). These constituent teams or individuals must be registered with gc.com in their own right.

2) At least one active member of each constituent team must be present at the finding of a cache for that cache to credited to the Superteam. (Taking another team’s dog along doesn’t count)

3) Any caches claimed as a find by the Superteam must not have been previously found by any of the constituent teams.

 

All clear so far...?

 

4) When a cache has been found by the Superteam and logged as a find by each of the constituent teams in the normal way, the total number of ‘stars’ that the cache rates (difficulty + terrain) is added to the Superteam's total. (Only once, not once per constituent team)

5) No limit to the number of ‘expeditions’ providing rule (sorry, guideline ) 2 is adhered to.

6) The challenge to run between two predetermined dates and the Superteam with the highest total of stars at the finish will be declared the winner.

 

If it takes off, we’ll probably need the help of someone with a website who would be willing to act as ‘controller’. Each Superteam would register there and e-mail the controller when a cache is found. The controller would check that each constituent team had logged the cache on cg.com and then update that Superteam’s total. The Superteams, team members and totals displayed on an accessible web page.

 

Ideally the finish should coincide with a ‘bash’ of some sort with a token prize for the winning Superteam.

 

OK... that’s the idea. What do you think? (Or has this been done already?)

 

John

Age and treachery will always triumph over youth and ability

[+Lost in Space]

I'm sorry John, a couple of cans of Stella and I can't make heads nor tails of this....

 

What is Dan's, (of Dan and Pid), sig line.............?????

 

[cain mosni]

quote:

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Originally posted by Pharisee:

4) When a cache has been found by the Superteam and logged as a find by each of the constituent teams in the normal way, the total number of ‘stars’ that the cache rates (difficulty + terrain) is added to the Superteam's total.

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That's no different from the idividuals' scoring system on Navicache. I can't see the point in making it competetive, myself. Just do it for the sake of doing it.

 

There are too many people trying to impose rules and structure, and assume some kind of authority as it is.

[cain mosni]

quote:

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Originally posted by Pharisee:

4) When a cache has been found by the Superteam and logged as a find by each of the constituent teams in the normal way, the total number of ‘stars’ that the cache rates (difficulty + terrain) is added to the Superteam's total.

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That's no different from the idividuals' scoring system on an alternative site that I previously tried to mention by name (starting with N and ending with avicache). I can't see the point in making it competetive, myself. Just do it for the sake of doing it.

 

There are too many people trying to impose rules and structure, and assume some kind of authority as it is.

 

[i'm getting really pissed off with the Geocaching.com attitude that tries to censor out the existence of other sites like N*C.]

[+Omally]

Sounds like fun, I'm up for it! (well, I would say that... )

 

I take it this would be a kind of one-off event over say a couple of weeks or so? Bit of harmless fun, and I don't see any problem with making it competetive: only a token prize would be needed (like a gold-plated ammo-box maybe? ). The main feature would be the bash at the end! Woohoo!

 

Great idea John!

 

"Woof" quoth he. Oh, and "Grrr" also.

 

Omally

[+Rocky Balboa]

I'm well up for a bit of (sporting) competition, which is quite obviously what you ment Not sure I understand exactly what you have proposed but I will try to figure it out I had an idea of holding a charity fun day or something similar where teams would compete to find a number of caches quickest, eg go off at intervals & the quickest wins. All very fun and friendly and all for a good cause. What do people think? would anyone be interested in arranging something with me? sorry Pharisee I am not trying to hijack any ideas here i promise

 

After reading again: Actually this is pretty much what your suggesting I think? so yes I am definatly up for it and willig to help out in any way poss

 

Its just a hunt for a lunch box, why be so serious!?!

 

Dan Wilson - www.Buckscaching.co.uk - Stash Notes, forums & Much more...

[+Mr & Mrs Hedgehog]

quote:

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If it takes off, we’ll probably need the help of someone with a website who would be willing to act as ‘controller’. Each Superteam would register there and e-mail the controller when a cache is found. The controller would check that each constituent team had logged the cache on cg.com and then update that Superteam’s total. The Superteams, team members and totals displayed on an accessible web page.

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Sounds like a bit of a laugh.. but I'm not sure if Mrs H and I have the time to do it. Will check with her tonight. If we haven't then I could always act as controller and set up a page on our website for this.

 

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't.

[+Team Paradise]

Sounds like a bit of fun... Count us in!

 

If you can see the 'light at the end of the tunnel', it's usually a train coming !

[+Mr & Mrs Hedgehog]

thinking about it. Unless you are planning to have this in November then we won't have time to do much caching, so won't be fair on the other team members but I (Mr H) want to do the web page for it.

 

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't.

[Sonya :-)]

Count me in too.

[+Omally]

Blimey John, I think you just took a flying leap at your "wall" and cleared it in a single bound!

Is it a bird? NO!

Is it a Plane? NO!

 

It's....

 

Super-Pharisee!!

 

"Woof" quoth he. Oh, and "Grrr" also.

 

Omally

[+Hi-Tek]

Sounds like a bit of fun to me! Count me in too please John.

 

"Fear is temporary, regret is permanent!"

 

motley. adj. varied in appearance or character.

crew. n. group of people.

[+Mr & Mrs Hedgehog]

so do we have enough people to make this work? I guess the MINIMUM we need is two teams, so that's 6 cachers...

 

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't.

[Seifer]

I'm definitly up for it.

 

I could probably do a very simple website, but nothing complex, hell, I have a life!

 

Mike

 

Of course.....

[StealthGoth]

Great Idea, especially the "bash" at the end!

 

I don't have any independent mode of transport apart from my legs and the lovely British Public Transport, but count me in!

 

Stealthgoth

 

The Irony of Fate is far worse than the Fate of Irony

[+MaccLad]

This sounds like fun. I would be interested in doing this. I reckon I should be able to muster a 'local' team together.....

 

I think there should be an upper limit on the number in a team though, otherwise one group of say ten cachers could just trounce all the other smaller teams.

 

It could maybe even be something like North vs South, or on a county basis (or would that be too contraversial?) .

 

When were you thinking of starting it up?

[+Mr & Mrs Hedgehog]

so can people get together on this one and arrange themselves into teams and post on this thread so we can see if this is a go or not.

 

Thanks

 

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't.

[+Rocky Balboa]

Can we have a rough idea of team sizes? I will send a few emails as soon as I know

 

Its just a hunt for a lunch box, why be so serious!?!

 

Dan Wilson - www.Buckscaching.co.uk - Stash Notes, forums & Much more...

[+Omally]

Roughly when would this happen? This side of Chrimbo?

 

Over what kind of time scale? A couple of days?A fortnight? A month?

 

Would there be a specified area to find caches in, or some sort of handicap for those in a cache-rich area?

 

Do the caches have to be previously unvisited by at least one member of the super-team (be they singular or a team in their own right)?

 

Sorry to be picky-sounding, just a few potential wrinkles that may need ironing out...

 

I'll have 3 spare seats in the Omallymobile if anyone wants to form a team with me (sound familiar?!) but I have very little holiday left this year so I'll only be allowed out at night...

 

"Woof" quoth he. Oh, and "Grrr" also.

 

Omally

Member of the GAGB

[+Slytherin]

quote:

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Originally posted by Pharisee:

 

3) Any caches claimed as a find by the Superteam must not have been previously found by any of the constituent teams.

 

All clear so far...?

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Am I reading this right? Doesn't that penalise teams that have members who have high cache counts already? If we (Slytherin) teamed up with Subarite and Hornet, then there wouldn't be that many caches in England that we could go for.

 

Alex.

 

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[+paul.blitz]

quote:

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Originally posted by Omally:

I'll have 3 spare seats in the Omallymobile if anyone wants to form a team with me (sound familiar?!) but I have very little holiday left this year so I'll only be allowed out at night...

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Only THREE seats... heck, I'll bid about 5 spare seats! That could mean getting a whole team into the one car!!

 

I'm off on holiday to Germany now, for 2 weeks (and YES, we WILL be doing some caching.... and NO, we're not taking the satellite link - although I DID consider the idea!)

 

Paul

 

Another proud member of the GAGB!

[+Pharisee]

Just come back from the pub and logged on... it seens like a lot more itrestttttttttttttttt....bummer..... drunk again,

I'll sort it out inna minit or ten.

 

hic

 

John

Age and treachery will always triumph over youth and ability

[+Pyro Pete]

Sorry - posted by mistake! Can't delete.

[+Seasider]

Depending on how and when - count me in!

 

Seasider

 

We are not retreating - we are advancing in another Direction!

[+MaccLad]

This topic seems to have dropped down the forums, has the idea gone cold or are people still interested in this?

[+makerofthingsup]

I'd be interested in taking part. If it means that I can take part by maybe just doing a couple of caches after work and at the weekend maybe a few more for some team's greater score! I don't have loads of spare time to dedicate though and I have done most of the caches in my imediate area. Sounds fun though so I guess this is a count me in!

[+NattyBooshka]

Sounds fun to us!

[+John Stead]

Sorry it's taken me a while to response but yes it sounds good to me if I can join in. I think someone earlier suggested it might be a charity event - is that on?

 

Happy to be member of GAGB and user of GeocacheUK

[+Seasider]

Yup!

 

From the previous logs it look like we have a Northern team already!

 

Seasider

 

We are not retreating - we are advancing in another Direction!

[+Pharisee]

Sorry guys.... as the topic starter I feel sort of responsible for this but things have been a bit difficult on the 'domestic' scene just lately and right now I don't have the time to do this justice. If anyone else want to take it they're welcome but I'm afraid I can't at the moment.

Sorry again...

 

John

Age and treachery will always triumph over youth and ability

[+Ashandes]

Seasider? if the rule (sorry, guidline) still stands that you can't do caches that one of the team-members has already done, then where are the NorthWest team going to do their caching?

 

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What is caches precious?

[+Seasider]

Well, I'm off down south - jstead seems to have family all over the place and there are still a load in the NEast which NattyBooshka could do!!

 

And how do you fancy a trip to Wales & Scotland?!

 

We are not retreating - we are advancing in another Direction!

[+Mr & Mrs Hedgehog]

quote:

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Originally posted by Pharisee:

Sorry guys.... as the topic starter I feel sort of responsible for this but things have been a bit difficult on the 'domestic' scene just lately and right now I don't have the time to do this justice. If anyone else want to take it they're welcome but I'm afraid I can't at the moment.

Sorry again...

 

John

Age and treachery will always triumph over youth and ability

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We'll we offered to do the web page for it, so running it shouldn't be a problem..

 

There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those that understand binary and those that don't.

[+John Stead]

quote:

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Originally posted by Seasider:

jstead seems to have family all over the place !

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Hey, what do you think I am? I've only two daughters and one of them is off to Peru next week and declined to take a TB to Machu Pichu!

 

Happy to be member of GAGB and user of GeocacheUK

[ghost_inthe_machine]

Okay, as an idea it sounds fine. However here are some questions.

 

If each composite team has to log the cache you will (as noted previously) be handicapping those whose constituent teams have high cache finds.

Also, in some areas there may only be 3 or so available constituent teams and thus most caches in the area will have been placed by one of those teams and thus can't be logged by the superteam (another small disadvantage for some)

 

Secondly, if you've got superteams all over the country competeing, where would you hold the 'bash' at the end ?

 

However, perhaps if I may hijack the idea slightly and incorporate that charity note of someones.

 

say you get someone smart with experience of events and multi/puzzle caches to devise a format with guidelines (e.g. 15 caches, at least 2 tough puzzles based on logic not location etc) - not me, I had Nawtcher in mind myself. Then a group of 'local' organisers does the groundwork of adapting the format to the local conditions and placing the caches and clues (all of which could be very temporary and need not be listed on GC.com as caches just registered as 1 event cache)

the you have a series of local events with the same format and similar caches going off on the same weekend to see which team can get the most of the 15 (cos some of them are supposed to be tough right).

for the charity bit, either get the local organisers to collect donations on the day, or (if it's allowed) charge a nominal entrance fee when you hand over the list of 'cache details'

Hand all the money over to the charity which was chosen in advance of the event.

To make it as much fun as possible for all, if a member of a team is the local organiser, as long as he/she doesn't head out with the team on the finding day, they still get to play.

 

Anyway, nuff rambling, back to work.

 

Roddy