Some London & other caches disabled for the summer

[+Phil100]

Not long to go until the 10th Sept when we can put our caches back! Have you got your caches ready for replacement?

I put my Newcastle ones back after the football finished at St James' Park.

[+Happy Humphrey]

I put my Newcastle ones back after the football finished at St James' Park.

Naughty, naughty!

[+Phil100]

I put my Newcastle ones back after the football finished at St James' Park.

Naughty, naughty!

I was told that it was OK although I never received any "official" notification!

[+Red Duster]

I was told that it was OK although I never received any "official" notification!

Groundspeak have said that a cache can be enabled by the owner once the location is no longer being used by the Olympics. If a venue is not being used by the Paralympics that means it can be enabled now

 

If the venue is being used by the Paralympics then please wait until after the games.

 

Andy

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[+Dogfort]

The cache by one of the entrances to the park was removed. The owner said that he was happy for people to still log it as a virtual if they attended the games, he would replace it afterwards.

 

Groundspeak took offence to the cache being logged by those who passed the site going into the stadium and archived the cache.

 

I logged it before it got archived but to me that just seems completely over the top. There was no cache, people werent acting suspiciously.

[+Smurf]

I logged it before it got archived but to me that just seems completely over the top. There was no cache

(my bold)

 

Forgive me if I'm missing something here - but if "there was no cache" (your words)

 

What exactly did you find and log ?

[+Dogfort]

It was treated as a virtual while the Olympics were on.

 

You post a photo of you in the park and log it.

 

GC2RP6R

[+Simply Paul]

...What exactly did you find and log ?

Sometimes even TPTB have been known to turn a blind eye...

[+Graculus]

...What exactly did you find and log ?

Sometimes even TPTB have been known to turn a blind eye...

It's a blind eye because we don't know about it! We do now.... thanks for the link.

 

Chris

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[+Dogfort]

Wow.... well done SP.

[+lodgebarn]

Loads of caches still seem to be disabled, is everyone on holiday I wonder .

Edited September 12, 2012 by lodgebarn

[+Gushoneybun]

Loads of caches still seem to be disabled, is everyone on holiday I wonder .

Or the CO's might need a prod

[+Lexmarks567]

a pet peeve is those who temporary disable there cache saying I need to check on this one and then they just vanish.

[CraftyKel*]

Loads of caches still seem to be disabled, is everyone on holiday I wonder .

Or the CO's might need a prod

 

Not all venues are fully re-opened yet. For example, at the mountain biking venue of Hadleigh Farm, some footpaths are still closed until the clearup and making-safe of the site finishes next month, at least one cache there is still inactive because it's unreachable.

 

But I daresay a few will likely never be reactivated due to CO's losing interest

[ruddfamilyuk]

So who is responsible for reactivating the caches? Groundspeak, or the people who placed them? As alot of the caches (possibly all) I've looked at have been disabled by Groundspeak, maybe the people who placed them are waiting for Groundspeak to reactivate them?

[+Gushoneybun]

So who is responsible for reactivating the caches? Groundspeak, or the people who placed them? As alot of the caches (possibly all) I've looked at have been disabled by Groundspeak, maybe the people who placed them are waiting for Groundspeak to reactivate them?

The cache owner, I have posted notes on a few in Manchester but nothing has changed. I guess some will be archived before to long.

[+Beach_hut]

As they were disabled and COs asked to remove the caches, the onus is on the cache owner to put cache back and enable the listing.

[+Happy Humphrey]

I suspect that this one was muggled during the Olympics, although the CO seems convinced that it was a cacher, but others in the area seem to have survived. None was disabled, despite some being within the Olympic security fence. I don't think that there were any problems either.

http://www.london2012.com/venue/box-hill/

[+JimJinks]

After a 3 day visit to London, I noticed that there are still a large number of caches that have not been re-enabled by their owners. Some were never removed and still had finds logged during the 'lock-down' period. How long before reviewers start posting their warning notes and caches start getting archived?

[+Graculus]

It would require us to do a 'sweep' of London to find them all. These sweeps are periodically done but if you come across such a cache please put a Needs Archived log on it which we are automatically notified about. We can then look at it.

 

Chris

Graculus

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[+MTH]

I notice the BeeKeeper has already threatened to archive some caches for non-maintenance, but is archiving necessarily the right action? Many of these caches are still in place and being found regularly despite being disabled. if you archive them they'll just become more geo-litter. Where caches are clearly in place is it possible a reviewer could just enable them?

 

Here's a selection from central London (not deliberately picking on anyone, but it's hard not to spot a theme here):

 

MyLondonAdventure #6 The BeeKeeper has already threatened to archive this one

MyLondonAdventure #9 Which has been found a few times, but needs maintenance

MyLondonAdventure #11 Last found 13th October so appears to be in place

MyLondonAdventure #14 Last found 16th October so appears to be in place

MyLondonAdventure #16 Last found 23rd Sept but a couple of DNFs since

Tiggopoly 9 - Fleet Street No finds since July

Tiggopoly 10 - Oxford Street which is being found regularly so should be enabled

Tiggopoly 11 - Mayfair which needs maintenance

Tiggopoly 12 - Park Lane which also needs maintenance

Tiggopoly 13 - Bond Street Cache is out of reach so needs maintenance. I've just posted a Needs Archving on it!

Tiggopoly 14 - Northumberland Avenue No finds since July

Tiggopoly 15 - Pall Mall The BeeKeeper has already threatened to archive this one

Tiggopoly 17 - Marlborough Street The BeeKeeper has already threatened to archive this one

Flonopoly Cache 17 - The Strand I didn't know any Flonopoly caches had survived but it was there on 12th October! These haven't been maintained for years

West End 1 - The Beatles Found on 9th October

Church Micro 1983 - Ogle Street, London No finds since July, 1DNF

 

I've emailed the owners since it appears you can't log a "Needs Maintenance" on a disabled cache!

 

Mark

 

Edited for typos and to add a few more caches to the list

Edited October 18, 2012 by MTH

[team tisri]

If the CO isn't active any more it's arguably a less clear situation when the cache is still apparently present, but where central London is concerned I'd say if the owner is inactive they should be archived anyway, maybe with a request for any passing cacher to remove them. Otherwise if they are just enabled then sooner or later they will go missing, or need a dry log, or some other maintenance and then they'll eventually get archived for non-maintenance. The trouble with just enabling them and letting them fly is that when they do go missing it takes a while for them to get archived, during which time visitors to London end up hunting film pots that aren't there when they could be hunting active and maintained caches.