+JL_HSTRE Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 (edited) Another cache asks for your help in finding a cache they are having trouble locating. You have found the cache before so you know exactly where it is. But when you go to GZ with them the cache is unmistakably gone and you post a Needs Maintenance noting this. How long would you wait for the owner to replace, disable, or archive the cache before you post a Needs Archived log? (Assume the cache owner is still "active" in the sense that their profile says they have logged onto geocaching.com in the last month.) Edited November 2, 2010 by joshism Quote Link to comment
+Chokecherry Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I'd go a month probably. Quote Link to comment
Delons Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I'd say 2 weeks to a month unless sombody else logs in. Quote Link to comment
+ngrrfan Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I let the reviewer worry about it. Our area reviewers are pretty diligent about keeping things in check. The only time I'll ask for a NA is if it has been several months since a NM and I've got an idea for a cache in that location or near it. Quote Link to comment
+J the Goat Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 I let the reviewer worry about it. Our area reviewers are pretty diligent about keeping things in check. The only time I'll ask for a NA is if it has been several months since a NM and I've got an idea for a cache in that location or near it. Reviewers don't get NM logs. Not automatically at least. Quote Link to comment
sabrefan7 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 A month is a good time period. Even if a needs archive log is posted A reviewer will still give 30 days for the CO to respond to the note Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Here's another vote for a month. That's what I usually give it. Quote Link to comment
Skippermark Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I'd say a month as well. Quote Link to comment
+dfx Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 my vote is on 34.172 days. Quote Link to comment
Skippermark Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Maybe we should go with the lunar cycle, about 29.5 days. Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Oh no! What do we do in February? Quote Link to comment
7rxc Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Oh no! What do we do in February? Send a NM Valentine Card??? Doug 7rxc Quote Link to comment
+Renegade Knight Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 ....How long would you wait for the owner to replace, disable, or archive the cache before you post a Needs Archived log?... I would have emailed the owner and moved on with life. It's their job to worry about their cache. Quote Link to comment
Dj Storm Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 If the owner is active, I post a NM confirming the cache is gone, and let him solve the situation one way or the other. If the owner is inactive, I post a NM confirming the cache is missing, I send an e-mail to the CO, I send another e-mail two weeks later and post the NA after another two weeks. Quote Link to comment
+SwineFlew Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 One month for most CO. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I would have emailed the owner and moved on with life. That. Quote Link to comment
+T_M_H Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I found a destroyed cache last month. We picked up the log and all of the pieces of the container. I posted a NM log and sent the CO an email offering assistance in replacing it. The CO was active every day for a week, they even accepted a friend request, but did not respond to my emails. Since then the CO has not been on the site so I finally posted a NA. I am hoping an email from the reviewer will spur some action but if not I am prepared to replace the cache with a new version. Quote Link to comment
Keystone Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I found a destroyed cache last month. We picked up the log and all of the pieces of the container. I posted a NM log and sent the CO an email offering assistance in replacing it. The CO was active every day for a week, they even accepted a friend request, but did not respond to my emails. Since then the CO has not been on the site so I finally posted a NA. I am hoping an email from the reviewer will spur some action but if not I am prepared to replace the cache with a new version. I looked at this Needs Archived log when it arrived in my inbox. I classified it as an example of premature action and I filed it away. The cache was just found on October 7th and your maintenance note was on October 12th. Let's see if the owner reacts to the recent logs. Thanks for your interest! Quote Link to comment
+T_M_H Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I looked at this Needs Archived log when it arrived in my inbox. I classified it as an example of premature action and I filed it away. The cache was just found on October 7th and your maintenance note was on October 12th. Let's see if the owner reacts to the recent logs. Thanks for your interest! Keystone, I knew it was kind of early but based on past history with this CO (GC1XMGJ) they are not always timely in maintenance. I was hoping that a note from you, and a temporary disabling of the cache, would spur some action. As it is right now it is an active cache that is not there because it is sitting here in my house. If a cacher does not read the logs prior to going after it they are going to be disappointed. Quote Link to comment
Keystone Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Neither your maintenance log nor your needs archived log makes it clear that the cache is sitting in your house. Reviewers are awesome, but we're not mind readers. Many reviewers are dogs. Quote Link to comment
+T_M_H Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) Neither your maintenance log nor your needs archived log makes it clear that the cache is sitting in your house. Reviewers are awesome, but we're not mind readers. Many reviewers are dogs. Sorry... I just re-read my NM log and saw that I never posted that I took the pieces with me! There was no way to replace it because it was smashed plus, since it is in an area with cliffs, I had no idea where the original placement was at. Had I know the location it would have already been replaced with a new container. Sorry for the thread hijack... Back to the regularly scheduled discussion. Edited November 3, 2010 by Team MidwestHaunters Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 ....How long would you wait for the owner to replace, disable, or archive the cache before you post a Needs Archived log?... I would have emailed the owner and moved on with life. It's their job to worry about their cache. Agreed. I don't believe that it is my responsibility to close the circle on every cache issue that I identify. My job is to notify the cache owner of any problems that I find. This is typically done by simply noting it in my log. A NM log or an email to the cache owner will deliver this message, also. It is not my responsiblity to continue to follow this issue until it has been resolved to my liking. Of course, if someone else reported a problem with a cache and I found the cache a month later, I would likely escalate the issue. If the problem was merely mentioned in an earlier log, I would post a NM. If a NM was posted a month earlier, I may post a NA, depending on what this cache's issue was. That being said, if I had the means to easily fix the problem with the cache, I'd just do that and mention it in my log. Quote Link to comment
+monstercatambush Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 There's a series of five caches here in Bloomington (IN) that were placed a couple years ago by a team from Indy that were here for an event. All five have needed maintained or replaced, and I've been doing that. What gets me is the owners asked me to adopt them, and I said I would, but after that they fell off the planet. The last versions of the caches (ones I put out) are still there, but the real owners won't respond to anything. They're in good spots, too, which stinks since three of them aren't very well done at all, and the spots could be used by other cachers. Another player locally that gets in and out of the game every year or so has the same thing going on. Nabbed good spots a long time ago, lets the tiny, fragile, plastic condiment containers just about disintegrate, but runs out on the very last day after being warned by a reviewer and puts ANOTHER crappy container with a slip of paper for a log out. Make you wonder if there should be a mechanism where you can nominate a cacher for "needs archived"! Quote Link to comment
+J the Goat Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 There's a series of five caches here in Bloomington (IN) that were placed a couple years ago by a team from Indy that were here for an event. All five have needed maintained or replaced, and I've been doing that. What gets me is the owners asked me to adopt them, and I said I would, but after that they fell off the planet. The last versions of the caches (ones I put out) are still there, but the real owners won't respond to anything. They're in good spots, too, which stinks since three of them aren't very well done at all, and the spots could be used by other cachers. Another player locally that gets in and out of the game every year or so has the same thing going on. Nabbed good spots a long time ago, lets the tiny, fragile, plastic condiment containers just about disintegrate, but runs out on the very last day after being warned by a reviewer and puts ANOTHER crappy container with a slip of paper for a log out. Make you wonder if there should be a mechanism where you can nominate a cacher for "needs archived"! So stop maintaining someone elses caches, wait for them to go away, then place your own. I never understand why people do that. Quote Link to comment
+humboldt flier Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Make you wonder if there should be a mechanism where you can nominate a cacher for "needs archived"! 10 - 4 to that Quote Link to comment
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