+Ecylram Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 In a recent post someone pointed out that Valspar Plastic Spray Paint Primer did a great job providing a base coat for their caches. I'll bet many of you have wasted money on products that didn't work for one reason or another so... Let save us all some money and share our information: What paints/tape/etc. do you use for camouflaging your various types of hides? Specifically, what brand and color have you found works best for camouflaging and long term use? Alternatively, was there an item that turned out to be a total waste of money? Quote Link to comment
mtbikernate Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 http://www.krylon.com/products/camouflage_...ion_technology/ I'm using some of this to camo a 1gal plastic jar. No prep work whatsoever. Base coat of the olive, then I used leaves from my backyard as stencils to make patterns with the khaki and and black. my local wallyworld didn't have the brown, but I could really use that color for some fake bark I'll be doing later. The stuff went on easy and adhered to the plastic very well. It has a very good matte finish that will help the container hide in the shadows. Quote Link to comment
aniyn Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I also use the krylon paint. So far so good. One thing though, If you're painting a platic container be sure to rough up the surface. I spent a whole bunch of time painting a 1.5 L jar only to go check on it a week later and discover a large portion on the paint had cracked and fallen off. Now I use a hack saw blade to scrape the exterior before i paint. Quote Link to comment
+Charlie Fingers Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I have found that primers are in a decent color spectrum for my work and bond well. Quote Link to comment
+Charlie Fingers Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) double post Edited October 26, 2010 by Charlie Fingers Quote Link to comment
+secretagentbill Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 http://www.krylon.com/products/camouflage_...ion_technology/ I'm using some of this to camo a 1gal plastic jar. No prep work whatsoever. Base coat of the olive, then I used leaves from my backyard as stencils to make patterns with the khaki and and black. my local wallyworld didn't have the brown, but I could really use that color for some fake bark I'll be doing later. The stuff went on easy and adhered to the plastic very well. It has a very good matte finish that will help the container hide in the shadows. I have also used the Krylon camo paint (khaki and olive). I haven't placed the caches yet, so I don't know how well they will hold up, but the finish seems really good. Quote Link to comment
+birder428 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I've had success with the Krylon camouflage paint in dk brown, dk green and tan. Do camo with mini maple and oak leaves cut from scrapbooking punches. Back when we were noob, we tried a 'stone' paint, but hadn't adequately read the directions, and found it was for interior use only. Duh. We've learned so much................. Quote Link to comment
+Mr. Wilson & a Mt. Goat Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Krylon as well, these ones to be exact...(not my pictures) They make a good combo. Quote Link to comment
+J the Goat Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 http://www.krylon.com/products/camouflage_...ion_technology/ I'm using some of this to camo a 1gal plastic jar. No prep work whatsoever. Base coat of the olive, then I used leaves from my backyard as stencils to make patterns with the khaki and and black. my local wallyworld didn't have the brown, but I could really use that color for some fake bark I'll be doing later. The stuff went on easy and adhered to the plastic very well. It has a very good matte finish that will help the container hide in the shadows. I have also used the Krylon camo paint (khaki and olive). I haven't placed the caches yet, so I don't know how well they will hold up, but the finish seems really good. Those look great! I've found that the cammo duct tape that they sell at Wally World doesn't work well at all. I don't recall the actual brand, but I'm trying to fix up a container I've not yet put out because the tape is horrible. Quote Link to comment
+BBWolf+3Pigs Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Krylon camo as well (Black, Tan, Brown and Green). I have used them on ammo cans, lock & locks, and soda bottle preforms. All with great success. Quote Link to comment
+Ecylram Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 Those look great! I've found that the cammo duct tape that they sell at Wally World doesn't work well at all. I don't recall the actual brand, but I'm trying to fix up a container I've not yet put out because the tape is horrible. Has anybody found a brand of camo tape that holds up? I was at a cache a couple months ago where the cache & tool were covered with a badly disintegrating camo tape that made the cache stand out AND left particles all over us. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Those look great! I've found that the cammo duct tape that they sell at Wally World doesn't work well at all. I don't recall the actual brand, but I'm trying to fix up a container I've not yet put out because the tape is horrible. Has anybody found a brand of camo tape that holds up? I was at a cache a couple months ago where the cache & tool were covered with a badly disintegrating camo tape that made the cache stand out AND left particles all over us. I had a cache where I used cloth camo tape, the kind used by bow hunters, and sprayed it, actually soaked it with a clear sealant. It was completely exposed to the elements and lasted 6 years. It was a little shabby when I finally picked it up, but I was amazed by its longevity. Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 http://www.krylon.com/products/camouflage_...ion_technology/ I'm using some of this to camo a 1gal plastic jar. No prep work whatsoever. Base coat of the olive, then I used leaves from my backyard as stencils to make patterns with the khaki and and black. my local wallyworld didn't have the brown, but I could really use that color for some fake bark I'll be doing later. The stuff went on easy and adhered to the plastic very well. It has a very good matte finish that will help the container hide in the shadows. I have also used the Krylon camo paint (khaki and olive). I haven't placed the caches yet, so I don't know how well they will hold up, but the finish seems really good. Those look great! I've found that the cammo duct tape that they sell at Wally World doesn't work well at all. I don't recall the actual brand, but I'm trying to fix up a container I've not yet put out because the tape is horrible. The Walmarts in my area sell Duck brand camo tape. I've had very good results with it. Quote Link to comment
+J the Goat Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 http://www.krylon.com/products/camouflage_...ion_technology/ I'm using some of this to camo a 1gal plastic jar. No prep work whatsoever. Base coat of the olive, then I used leaves from my backyard as stencils to make patterns with the khaki and and black. my local wallyworld didn't have the brown, but I could really use that color for some fake bark I'll be doing later. The stuff went on easy and adhered to the plastic very well. It has a very good matte finish that will help the container hide in the shadows. I have also used the Krylon camo paint (khaki and olive). I haven't placed the caches yet, so I don't know how well they will hold up, but the finish seems really good. Those look great! I've found that the cammo duct tape that they sell at Wally World doesn't work well at all. I don't recall the actual brand, but I'm trying to fix up a container I've not yet put out because the tape is horrible. The Walmarts in my area sell Duck brand camo tape. I've had very good results with it. Any trick to making it last longer, or did it do alright for you straight out of the package? Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 A few examples of mine. Quote Link to comment
+Ecylram Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 A few examples of mine. Impressive. Quote Link to comment
+Ecylram Posted October 27, 2010 Author Share Posted October 27, 2010 A few examples of mine. Impressive. I just noticed that you click on each picture to get a larger picture. What did you use for the 3D effect, spray insulation? Quote Link to comment
+Borst68 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 A few examples of mine. These are awesome Kit! What do you use to make the texture detail? Recently I have been using Rustoleum Textured spray to get a more textured look. The particles are the consistency of fine sand. I then pain the final coat with the Krylon mention above. Although I have gotten a comment or two on the nice camo job, I see yours are vastly superior to mine. Hidden in the right area, they would be much more difficult to find. Any info on you method that you are willing to share is appreciated. Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 What did you use for the 3D effect, spray insulation? The 3d foam is spray foam in a can. These are awesome Kit! What do you use to make the texture detail? Recently I have been using Rustoleum Textured spray to get a more textured look. The particles are the consistency of fine sand. I then pain the final coat with the Krylon mention above. Although I have gotten a comment or two on the nice camo job, I see yours are vastly superior to mine. Hidden in the right area, they would be much more difficult to find. Any info on you method that you are willing to share is appreciated. The gritty textured camo was "Liquid Nails," and a small stick to make the texture. Quote Link to comment
+hukilaulau Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 My 2nd cache hide was a decon box that I covered with Gorilla Glue and then rolled around in pine needles and leaves and stuff. Hung it on an inside branch of a small evergreen. Nearly six years later it STILL has some of the original camo on it. Quote Link to comment
+Charlie Fingers Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 A few examples of mine. Can I use these photos in a powerpoint presentation on geocahing? It will be for a meet and greet and no money will be made off of them. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Like Kit, I am a fan of physical camo. Nature abhors a straight line, and if you simply spray a cube, it still looks like a cube. Your eyes will be drawn to it. A little bit of texture goes a long way toward breaking up the outline. I've tried a whole bunch of adhesives, and found that the best one for multiple materials, (metal, plastic, etc), is Liquid Nails Roof Repair. It comes in a grey and black caulking tube. The product is black, smells really foul and will stain anything it touches, so you gotta work outside with it. I apply it on a surface with a caulking gun, then smear it like peanut butter with a plastic knife, avoiding seams, latches and hinges. Then I mash in my camo material. I use Spanish moss, ground moss and a product called Excelsior, which is just shredded cedar that looks like pine needles. I let them cure for a few days, and they are ready for the woods. They look like this: On really big cans, I'll add pine bark to the mix. For smaller containers, I'll spray camo the sides, and apply physical camo to the top. When they get wiggled into the leaf litter, they all but disappear, Another medium I played around with, going back to my army days, is strips of burlap. I buy the camo printed burlap and cut it into 1"x4" strips, then apply it in an overlap pattern. This one is freshly made, but they actually look better with age, as the threads start unraveling. Quote Link to comment
+FloridaFour Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 love those physical camo ideas! Quote Link to comment
+Kit Fox Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 A few examples of mine. Can I use these photos in a powerpoint presentation on geocahing? It will be for a meet and greet and no money will be made off of them. Go right ahead. Quote Link to comment
hoosier guy Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 What did you use for the 3D effect, spray insulation? The 3d foam is spray foam in a can. These are awesome Kit! What do you use to make the texture detail? Recently I have been using Rustoleum Textured spray to get a more textured look. The particles are the consistency of fine sand. I then pain the final coat with the Krylon mention above. Although I have gotten a comment or two on the nice camo job, I see yours are vastly superior to mine. Hidden in the right area, they would be much more difficult to find. Any info on you method that you are willing to share is appreciated. The gritty textured camo was "Liquid Nails," and a small stick to make the texture. Now that is clever thinking! Ihave had good results with krylon paint abd the camo tape from wall mart. But my caches have not been out all that long so time will tell. Quote Link to comment
mtbikernate Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I like the 3d camo. I did some 3d camo to my recent container, as well. I used some of the foam crumbles used for model trains in two different textures and once adhered, I sprayed with the krylon. Since my area is almost exclusively pine woods, I glued a bunch of pine needles to the top of the container. I placed it in an area in deep shadow, and without piling any debris on top (dead giveaway when I'm hunting for a cache), it disappears. If the 3d camo gets beat up too much this winter, I may take it in for a few weeks to implement some of the camo techniques shown here. Quote Link to comment
+mwellman Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Krylon is great - dull leaf colours. We tried regular camo duct tape but is too shiny and too green for the autumn season. Camo hockey tape is designed to stick in wet and cold conditions. We have been using it for two years and it is still sticking. The dull lighter camo colours disappear into the dry grass and leaves. We will have to try some of the ideas in this thread to disguise ammo can corners better. Quote Link to comment
+Borst68 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Clan Riffster - How does the moss and bark hold up over time? I have been led to believe that over time, the moss and bark will fall off. Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Since my area is almost exclusively pine woods, I glued a bunch of pine needles to the top of the container. I originally tried pine needles, but because of the oils they secrete, I couldn't get them to adhere very well. That's why I switched to brown Excelsior. Clan Riffster - How does the moss and bark hold up over time? Good question. If you use a sturdy, flexable, all-weather adhesive such as Liquid Nails Roof Repair, the moss won't actually fall out. What does happen, over time, with sufficient handling, is the moss breaks off near the surface. After enough time goes by, the can looks a loy less fuzzy. Since the adhesive has its own texture, and holds the moss stubble, you still get some 3D camo effect. Redoing the camo is as easy as doing it the first time, so repairs are not an issue. This can was in the woods about 2 years: Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 (edited) This can was done using Rustoleum Camo paint Edited November 5, 2010 by sbell111 Quote Link to comment
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