+marc_54140 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I just discovered this on the Groundspeak pages: 1.5. Geocachers' Creed The Geocachers' Creed is designed to help orient new players to the ethos of the geocaching community and to guide experienced players in questionable situations, so that everyone can enjoy geocaching. When placing or seeking geocaches, I will: Not endanger myself or others...... So, what kind of caches or situations would be considered endangering? I'm thinking mainly along the lines of placing a cache. Are there prohibitions against them? If not, should there be? Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Every cache has an element of danger. Wandering around a parking lot with your attention focused on a GPS isn't the exactly safest thing a person can do. BTW the geocacher's creed is not an official Groundspeak policy. Groundspeak's guidelines do not address safety at all. Quote Link to comment
+Mom-n-Andy Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I just discovered this on the Groundspeak pages: 1.5. Geocachers' Creed The Geocachers' Creed is designed to help orient new players to the ethos of the geocaching community and to guide experienced players in questionable situations, so that everyone can enjoy geocaching. When placing or seeking geocaches, I will: Not endanger myself or others...... So, what kind of caches or situations would be considered endangering? I'm thinking mainly along the lines of placing a cache. Are there prohibitions against them? If not, should there be? I think most would agree that placing a cache in a lamp post outside a crack house (or similar high-crime location) would be bad. It would probably be a bad idea to try to stick a magnetic keytainer to a guardrail on an 8-lane highway, or to the fence that surrounds the White House. A lot of people (myself included) think that caches that are hidden in electrical equipment, or that look like electrical equipment are bad ideas - even if they are not "live", this is training people to touch equipment that might be "live." On the other hand caches that involve a physical challenge such as climbing a 40 foot tree or scaling the side of a cliff seem to be generally acceptable as long as the terrain setting is appropriate and there is some warning to potential seekers about what to expect. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I think that particular part of the "creed" refers to hiders doing something to mislead or otherwise delibertly endanger somebody that is not experienced or prepared to do what is necessary to retrieve a cache. In other words - its ok to place a dangerous cache but you should not understate the dangers in the listing/ratings/text nor place something that is likely to harm an innocent. By the same token - a responsible cacher should turn around and walk away rather than try to do something they are not physically/mentally well prepared for. Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 BTW the geocacher's creed is not an official Groundspeak policy. Groundspeak's guidelines do not address safety at all. QFT Quote Link to comment
+Taoiseach Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 It would probably be a bad idea to try to stick a magnetic keytainer to a guardrail on an 8-lane highway, or to the fence that surrounds the White House. Yeah... Those wouldn't be published anyway... Caches may be quickly archived if we see the following (which is not exhaustive): * Caches near, on or under public structures deemed potential or possible targets for terrorist attacks. These may include but are not limited to highway bridges, dams, government buildings, elementary and secondary schools, and airports. Quote Link to comment
GOF and Bacall Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 So, what kind of caches or situations would be considered endangering? Hidden on the backstop of a shooting range? Quote Link to comment
+tzipora Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Inside a grizzly bear den? Quote Link to comment
+Team Black-Cat Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I'm thinking mainly along the lines of placing a cache. This leads me to believe that we might have something to look forward to (or to fear). Marc, you've been around forever (geocaching-wise.. that wasn't a a comment on age) and have seen more than a lot of us. What would you consider to be too dangerous? Oh, to answer your question, I dislike adding rules where common sense works. Quote Link to comment
hoosier guy Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 To cf another thread it is not just the placement but what you put in that could cause a problem Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I just discovered this on the Groundspeak pages: 1.5. Geocachers' Creed The Geocachers' Creed is designed to help orient new players to the ethos of the geocaching community and to guide experienced players in questionable situations, so that everyone can enjoy geocaching. When placing or seeking geocaches, I will: Not endanger myself or others...... So, what kind of caches or situations would be considered endangering? I'm thinking mainly along the lines of placing a cache. Are there prohibitions against them? If not, should there be? No thanks. While I never take unecessary risks I know I can't handle, I don't need a creed as a hider or a finder. To each their own but for me, a creed?? Really? Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 So, what kind of caches or situations would be considered endangering? Stapling a film can to a live, 12' alligator, tethered to a cypress tree? Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 No thanks. While I never take unecessary risks I know I can't handle, I don't need a creed as a hider or a finder. To each their own but for me, a creed?? Really? I agree - the whole concept of a "creed" strikes me as a little heavy-handed and unnecessary. Groundspeak's guidelines are comprehensive, and it's up to the individual to take responsibility for their actions. Quote Link to comment
+wimseyguy Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Oh, endangering.... I thought the title was engendering. I guess that discussion is in the naughty swag thread? Quote Link to comment
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