+Chi-Town Cacher Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi. I was just reading a post and ran across 2 words I didn't understand one I found a definition for, sock puppet, the second I couldn't find a definition so I'd like some help. The word I couldn't find a definition for is troll and considering the context of the writers remarks I'm guessing it might be somebody who is posting on the Forum just trying to get people mad. Am I close? I looked in gc.com's glossary of terms and also in the geolex and I don't see it defined in either one. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment
uperdooper Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 that's pretty much it. Quote Link to comment
+buttaskotch Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi. I was just reading a post and ran across 2 words I didn't understand one I found a definition for, sock puppet, the second I couldn't find a definition so I'd like some help. The word I couldn't find a definition for is troll and considering the context of the writers remarks I'm guessing it might be somebody who is posting on the Forum just trying to get people mad. Am I close? I looked in gc.com's glossary of terms and also in the geolex and I don't see it defined in either one. Thanks in advance! BINGO!!! On both. You got the jist of things on your own! Took me a long while to figure it out LOL Quote Link to comment
+Chi-Town Cacher Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thanks for the education. I felt fairly confident, but didn't want to embarass myself later by using it in a wrong context. Have a great night and thank you!!! Quote Link to comment
+gof1 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Yup, you got it. Not geocaching terms so they wouldn't be in those lists. Both are internet chat/forum terms. Quote Link to comment
Mr.Yuck Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Yup, you got it. Not geocaching terms so they wouldn't be in those lists. Both are internet chat/forum terms. I believe both terms were in use within weeks of Al Gore inventing the internet. Long before geocaching existed. Quote Link to comment
Crab_Soul Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 well ive been acused of it many times. the deffinitions that it seems to be are these 3 off topic posting- not me posting to tick people off- also not me and posting way tooooo much becouse you have no life- pretty much me Quote Link to comment
+Chi-Town Cacher Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thanks everybody! I appreciate you folks taking the time to educate me. Happy caching!!!! Quote Link to comment
+gof1 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 No problem. When you get the bill in the mail remember, cash is good. Gotta charge you more if I'm gonna have to report it on my taxes. Quote Link to comment
+usyoopers Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi. I was just reading a post and ran across 2 words I didn't understand one I found a definition for, sock puppet, the second I couldn't find a definition so I'd like some help. The word I couldn't find a definition for is troll and considering the context of the writers remarks I'm guessing it might be somebody who is posting on the Forum just trying to get people mad. Am I close? I looked in gc.com's glossary of terms and also in the geolex and I don't see it defined in either one. Thanks in advance! ... Then again, if you came up to the U.P. we would call YOU a troll! .....cuz ya live under da bridge! Quote Link to comment
+Proud Soccer Mom Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 My all time favourite site for flame warrior types is Mike Reed's Flame Warriors! Read the page for Troller for an apt description of a Troll. Please read more descriptions at your convenience. They are made of LOL and win. Quote Link to comment
+Proud Soccer Mom Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 well ive been acused of it many times. the deffinitions that it seems to be are these 3 off topic posting- not me posting to tick people off- also not me and posting way tooooo much becouse you have no life- pretty much me You're not a troll, no. You're more of a Howler is all. I started out as one, too, and it's a phase that will pass with time and an appropriate amount of shutting up. Quote Link to comment
+sbell111 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 well ive been acused of it many times. the deffinitions that it seems to be are these 3 off topic posting- not me posting to tick people off- also not me and posting way tooooo much becouse you have no life- pretty much me You're not a troll, no. You're more of a Howler is all. I started out as one, too, and it's a phase that will pass with time and an appropriate amount of shutting up. I thought that the howlers were the forum residents who fling the poo at the noob with the 'new' ideas. Quote Link to comment
+Proud Soccer Mom Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 well ive been acused of it many times. the deffinitions that it seems to be are these 3 off topic posting- not me posting to tick people off- also not me and posting way tooooo much becouse you have no life- pretty much me You're not a troll, no. You're more of a Howler is all. I started out as one, too, and it's a phase that will pass with time and an appropriate amount of shutting up. I thought that the howlers were the forum residents who fling the poo at the noob with the 'new' ideas. You're probably right. I think I've misread that to mean it's the noobs that toss the poo. Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Michigan Cacheman, I was gonna say you and I are Trolls, but it appears that Yooper usyoopers beat me to it. usyoopers doesn't seem to say it with any venom so I wont accuse 'em of being a Fudgie. Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 well ive been acused of it many times. the deffinitions that it seems to be are these 3 off topic posting- not me posting to tick people off- also not me and posting way tooooo much becouse you have no life- pretty much me You're not a troll, no. You're more of a Howler is all. I started out as one, too, and it's a phase that will pass with time and an appropriate amount of shutting up. I thought that the howlers were the forum residents who fling the poo at the noob with the 'new' ideas. You're probably right. I think I've misread that to mean it's the noobs that toss the poo. In my experience Howlers fling poo at noobs with opinions differ from their own. Especially if the Howler is also a Fossilizer. Quote Link to comment
+Proud Soccer Mom Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 well ive been acused of it many times. the deffinitions that it seems to be are these 3 off topic posting- not me posting to tick people off- also not me and posting way tooooo much becouse you have no life- pretty much me You're not a troll, no. You're more of a Howler is all. I started out as one, too, and it's a phase that will pass with time and an appropriate amount of shutting up. I thought that the howlers were the forum residents who fling the poo at the noob with the 'new' ideas. You're probably right. I think I've misread that to mean it's the noobs that toss the poo. In my experience Howlers fling poo at noobs with opinions differ from their own. Especially if the Howler is also a Fossilizer. It appears that Newbie covers Crab Soul (and limitless others, of which I was included) completely. Fossilizer is a new term for me. Is that like an Archivist? Quote Link to comment
+ImaMystic Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 well ive been acused of it many times. the deffinitions that it seems to be are these 3 off topic posting- not me posting to tick people off- also not me and posting way tooooo much becouse you have no life- pretty much me You're not a troll, no. You're more of a Howler is all. I started out as one, too, and it's a phase that will pass with time and an appropriate amount of shutting up. I thought that the howlers were the forum residents who fling the poo at the noob with the 'new' ideas. You're probably right. I think I've misread that to mean it's the noobs that toss the poo. In my experience Howlers fling poo at noobs with opinions differ from their own. Especially if the Howler is also a Fossilizer. It appears that Newbie covers Crab Soul (and limitless others, of which I was included) completely. Fossilizer is a new term for me. Is that like an Archivist? Thanks Redneck Parrottheads some info a Forum Newbie can use. I checked my hair in the mirror this morning and it looks pretty good today ... so I know I'm not a troll. Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) In my experience Howlers fling poo at noobs with opinions differ from their own. Especially if the Howler is also a Fossilizer. It appears that Newbie covers Crab Soul (and limitless others, of which I was included) completely. Fossilizer is a new term for me. Is that like an Archivist? A Fossilizer is a person that argues against change with complete disregard as to weather the change is good or bad by saying what boils down to "This is how it is, so it should stay this way." ~~~edit to add~~~ Thanks for the link, it almost ruined my vintage Toshiba Noteworthy multimedia keyboard by spewing coffee. Edited February 10, 2009 by Vater_Araignee Quote Link to comment
+Star*Hopper Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I knows we talkin' about the same thing...but youse guys sure got a different definition (of the source) of 'troll' than I do! A 'troll' (in verb form) is, speaking very basically, tossing bait out on the water to see if you can get a rise. Or more definitively, usu. behind a slow-moving boat, etc., & the rise, from a fish, etc., ie, fish 'rising to the bait'. It's a small 'reach', but the connection to 'forum baiting' is easy to discern. The noun form of troll, to which you refer - is defined as (borrowing from Ye Good Olde 'American Heritage' dictionary': "A supernatural creature of Scandinavian folklore, variously portrayed as a friendly or mischievous dwarf or as a giant, that lives in caves, in the hills, or under bridges." (It's also a noun to refer to the act of trolling, as a troll.) And on the ol' Intarwebz, it became common usage to 'cross-breed' the two, & call those that troll (eg forum-baiting), a troll. Not sayin' I've "been around awhile".....but I taught Al Gore everything he needs to know. (That's why he don't know nuttin'.) ~* Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 (edited) well ive been acused of it many times. the deffinitions that it seems to be are these 3 off topic posting- not me posting to tick people off- also not me and posting way tooooo much becouse you have no life- pretty much me Those are not definitions of a troll, but merely techniques a troll might use. A troll, in the context of any discussion forum is, according to my personal definition, someone who posts to a forum with the primary intent of provoking a response. A troll doesn't necessarily (and typically probably doesn't) actually believe any opinions they might post. Their purpose is provoking readers of a forum to respond. For example, on Usenet (a forum I've been using since 1984) there are hundreds of fandom group such as groups primary made up of people gushing about their favorite sports team. Fandom groups are typically easy to troll since all you have to do is make a disparaging remark about the object of the fans desire. In forums such as the Groundspeak forum trolls are frequently encountered starting yet another thread on a contentious topic that might be synonomous with an expired equine. Posting off topic, or just being annoying are just tools that a troll can use to provoke a response and that is all that a troll is trying to do. With a little experience it's pretty easy to recognize when someone is trolling which inevitably provokes a "don't feed the trolls" post. Edited February 10, 2009 by NYPaddleCacher Quote Link to comment
+Frank Broughton Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 My all time favourite site for flame warrior types is Mike Reed's Flame Warriors! Read the page for Troller for an apt description of a Troll. Please read more descriptions at your convenience. They are made of LOL and win. Just ran into that site yesterday.It is well done, hilarious and CORRECT Quote Link to comment
+WeightMan Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 But I thought trolls were more like these folk. Quote Link to comment
+Lydford Locators Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Over on this side of the pond - if you get the word troll used on a cache page, it usually means that the cache is hidden under a bridge. Quote Link to comment
+Chi-Town Cacher Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi. I was just reading a post and ran across 2 words I didn't understand one I found a definition for, sock puppet, the second I couldn't find a definition so I'd like some help. The word I couldn't find a definition for is troll and considering the context of the writers remarks I'm guessing it might be somebody who is posting on the Forum just trying to get people mad. Am I close? I looked in gc.com's glossary of terms and also in the geolex and I don't see it defined in either one. Thanks in advance! ... Then again, if you came up to the U.P. we would call YOU a troll! .....cuz ya live under da bridge! It took me a bit to figure out what you were saying then a light turned on in the old noggin and the bridge reference finally clicked in. I'm going to blame it on the vicodin, because hopefully I'm not that slow naturally. Good luck in the TB Race! Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Over on this side of the pond - if you get the word troll used on a cache page, it usually means that the cache is hidden under a bridge. And then there's Gordo the Gap Troll Quote Link to comment
+Vinny & Sue Team Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Over on this side of the pond - if you get the word troll used on a cache page, it usually means that the cache is hidden under a bridge. This is, in my experience, largely true in the US as well. However, I doubt that this is true for caches published in Canada, for all Canadians, in addition to being a brutish and louty lot, are illiterate, and do not know how to spell the word "troll", and, since they do not yet have electricity, refrigeration, grocery stores, supermarkets or restaurants in Canada, Canadians tend to eat any trolls that they encounter, for wild-harvested trolls, squirrels, hedgehogs and rabbits comprise a large part of their native diet. . Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Over on this side of the pond - if you get the word troll used on a cache page, it usually means that the cache is hidden under a bridge. This is, in my experience, largely true in the US as well. However, I doubt that this is true for caches published in Canada, for all Canadians, in addition to being a brutish and louty lot, are illiterate, and do not know how to spell the word "troll", and, since they do not yet have electricity, refrigeration, grocery stores, supermarkets or restaurants in Canada, Canadians tend to eat any trolls that they encounter, for wild-harvested trolls, squirrels, hedgehogs and rabbits comprise a large part of their native diet. And that is why LP Michiganders avoid Canadians. Quote Link to comment
+Proud Soccer Mom Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Over on this side of the pond - if you get the word troll used on a cache page, it usually means that the cache is hidden under a bridge. This is, in my experience, largely true in the US as well. However, I doubt that this is true for caches published in Canada, for all Canadians, in addition to being a brutish and louty lot, are illiterate, and do not know how to spell the word "troll", and, since they do not yet have electricity, refrigeration, grocery stores, supermarkets or restaurants in Canada, Canadians tend to eat any trolls that they encounter, for wild-harvested trolls, squirrels, hedgehogs and rabbits comprise a large part of their native diet. And that is why LP Michiganders avoid Canadians. I dunno... Those Rush guys seemed pretty civilised. Quote Link to comment
+Vater_Araignee Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Over on this side of the pond - if you get the word troll used on a cache page, it usually means that the cache is hidden under a bridge. This is, in my experience, largely true in the US as well. However, I doubt that this is true for caches published in Canada, for all Canadians, in addition to being a brutish and louty lot, are illiterate, and do not know how to spell the word "troll", and, since they do not yet have electricity, refrigeration, grocery stores, supermarkets or restaurants in Canada, Canadians tend to eat any trolls that they encounter, for wild-harvested trolls, squirrels, hedgehogs and rabbits comprise a large part of their native diet. And that is why LP Michiganders avoid Canadians. I dunno... Those Rush guys seemed pretty civilised. You only think that because your a Floridian, I'm a Lower Peninsula Michigander and that means I'm a Troll. LPers beware Canadians for you are crunchy, and tasty when doused in Moose Head and wrapped in ham Canadian bacon. Quote Link to comment
+Star*Hopper Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 (Don't mind Vinny.....he's just a disgruntled former refrigerator salesman that was assigned to the Fairbanks district. There's more'n one reason that happened.) ~* Quote Link to comment
+stevexxx Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 well ive been acused of it many times. the deffinitions that it seems to be are these 3 off topic posting- not me posting to tick people off- also not me and posting way tooooo much becouse you have no life- pretty much me You have 5 threads open on the first page of geocaching topics KINGTROLL Quote Link to comment
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