j2garnett Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 So, after browsing here for a few weeks, I finally decided to go out and look for my fist cache. I picked one that was described as relatively easy, and thought I should be good to go. I looked for 45 mintes in what I'm sure was at least close, but couldn't find anything. Is there some technique I need to use to get right there? Quote Link to comment
+El Diablo Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Can you tell us what cache you were looking for? Maybe then we could better help you. In the mean time here are some tips. 1. Look for something that dosen't seem to belong, or isn't quite what it may appear to be. 2. Read all the previous find logs. They can be a wealth of information. 3. Most importantly...remember that the coordinates the hider used could differ as much as 60 feet from yours. El Diablo Quote Link to comment
j2garnett Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 Can you tell us what cache you were looking for? Maybe then we could better help you. In the mean time here are some tips. 1. Look for something that dosen't seem to belong, or isn't quite what it may appear to be. 2. Read all the previous find logs. They can be a wealth of information. 3. Most importantly...remember that the coordinates the hider used could differ as much as 60 feet from yours. El Diablo Wow, 60 feet? How are you people finding these nano and "under rock" ones then?? It hadn't been found yet - maybe I'm not the only one who can't find it. I'm searching in Australia - this was the cache I tried: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...20-e9bbe1fc304e. I'm fairly familiar with that landmark, and know I was in the right area, just couldn't find anything. I think part of the trouble is this site is in MAJOR need of CITO efforts. So much trash I can't tell what's what =P Quote Link to comment
+Von-Horst Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I'd suggest that you try looking for another cache - preferably one that has been found recently (which implies that it is actually there to be found). Why not try Quart Pot or Snakes Alive, both of which are less than 1500m from where you were looking before. Established caches often have 'cachers trails' (disturbed vegetation, beaten areas of ground, piles of twigs) leading towards them. These are caused by people passing to and fro from the cache that, whilst not drawing the attention of the general public, can help you find a cache if you are looking. Good luck! Quote Link to comment
+El Diablo Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Can you tell us what cache you were looking for? Maybe then we could better help you. In the mean time here are some tips. 1. Look for something that dosen't seem to belong, or isn't quite what it may appear to be. 2. Read all the previous find logs. They can be a wealth of information. 3. Most importantly...remember that the coordinates the hider used could differ as much as 60 feet from yours. El Diablo Wow, 60 feet? How are you people finding these nano and "under rock" ones then?? It hadn't been found yet - maybe I'm not the only one who can't find it. I'm searching in Australia - this was the cache I tried: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...20-e9bbe1fc304e. I'm fairly familiar with that landmark, and know I was in the right area, just couldn't find anything. I think part of the trouble is this site is in MAJOR need of CITO efforts. So much trash I can't tell what's what =P Finding the nanos can be the most challenging. Finding a sandwich box size cache should be fairly easy. Stand in the area and look around. Where would you hide such a cache? Also keep in mind that caches can be ground level, or above the ground. Don't forget to look up or in. Feel free to push pull and lift objects for hiding places. El Diablo Quote Link to comment
+briansnat Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 You probably should start with regular sized caches. And as El D stated, coords 60 feet off are not unheard of, so don't rely totally on your GPS. If it's pointing one place and there is a likely looking hiding place 50 feet away, don't hesitate to check that out. Quote Link to comment
+joranda Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 The cache looks like it would be a easy find. You could always email the owner that you have been there and couldn't find it. He may help you or even go and check the coords. Quote Link to comment
+StarBrand Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 General tips. Look for anything out of place, not quite right. Things that are too new or too old. Things that are not quite natural or just out of season. Look for unusual piles of sticks, grass, leaves, rocks or sand. Think like a hider - where would you hide something here. Think magnetic, many micro and small caches are somewhat magnetic. Feel where you can't look. Slowly expand your search from the most likely area. - up to 50 feet away. Don't be afraid to back away and reconfirm your GPS led you to the right spot. Look for evidence somebody else stood there for a while. Think vertical - many caches are up off of the ground and may be right in front of your eyes. Most of all - have fun at it!! Quote Link to comment
MikeB3542 Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) Use common sense when looking (or grabbing) inside stuff. In Wisconsin, the wildest thing I have come across in a hide was an opossum taking a snooze, but understand that there are snakes and spiders and stuff in Australia that will ruin your whole day. I would recommend seeing if there is a local group that you can tag along with. Edited January 20, 2008 by MikeB3542 Quote Link to comment
j2garnett Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 Use common sense when looking (or grabbing) inside stuff. In Wisconsin, the wildest thing I have come across in a hide was an opossum taking a snooze, but understand that there are snakes and spiders and stuff in Australia that will ruin your whole day. I would recommend seeing if there is a local group that you can tag along with. Yeah, I'm pretty familiar with what to look out for - redbacks, death adders, brown snakes, and scorpions to name a few - I walk carefully and don't stick my hand anywhere it doesn't belong. Quote Link to comment
+x_Marks_the_spot Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Looking at the Google Earth image, I have to say that it doesn't quite square with the description. The description talks about an established path, but the coordinates provided point to a parking lot of some sort. I would say it bears at least emailing the cache owner to make sure the coords are right. Quote Link to comment
Motorcycle_Mama Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Keep in mind that the Google Earth kml is intentional off. Don't rely on that. Be sure you look at the Google maps. Quote Link to comment
+x_Marks_the_spot Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Keep in mind that the Google Earth kml is intentional off. Don't rely on that. Be sure you look at the Google maps. I plugged the coordinates directly into the "Fly to" box on GE. That gives me a crosshair right on the spot. I even took into account how far the map of the roads differed from the roads in the photo. Quote Link to comment
+sojourners7 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 So, after browsing here for a few weeks, I finally decided to go out and look for my fist cache. I think it is always better to go with another geocacher who has some finds under his or her belt when you first start out. Granted this is a very easy sport to get into, but it does have its nuances and if you have someone who knows a little more about it than you do it will make it a lot more fun. It's just more fun to geocache with other people anyway, unless of course your are in need of tranquility on a particular day. So my suggestion would be to find a local geocacher who would be willing to go with you on a few finds. You'll probably make a new friend besides. Quote Link to comment
+partimcmpr Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 So, after browsing here for a few weeks, I finally decided to go out and look for my fist cache. I picked one that was described as relatively easy, and thought I should be good to go. I looked for 45 mintes in what I'm sure was at least close, but couldn't find anything. Is there some technique I need to use to get right there? With only 4 finds, I am light on experience. However, I can tell you that the first ones are harder than you might think because you don't really know what to expect. Once you find a few, you will start looking from the perspective of a geocacher. Sometimes you can look at the logs for additiona clues. On my last hunt, I had to look for two different waypoints not knowing which one was really the right one. (waypoint had to be calculated, the calculation was based on color, and flourescent orange and yellow look the same to me...). Anyway, once I was near the area, I was able to look in the general direction of the two waypoints and knew which one looked more like where a cache might be. You will learn - don't be discouraged! Later, Partimcmpr Quote Link to comment
+clatmandu Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Like VonHorst said, try looking for another one. There are several within a mile of there that have all been found this year. UNLESS,,,,,,,your going for a FTF on your first find like I did. Quote Link to comment
+Crew 153 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I've got a feeling that the coordinates on the cache page may be wrong. The maps indicate that it is about 400 m from Anzac Hill Rd and about 1km from Anzac Park. It is not unusual to not get a FTF on a cache because of an error on the part of the hider. I would contact him and tell him where you were looking and ask if that is the correct place. Quote Link to comment
+edscott Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Keep in mind that the Google Earth kml is intentional off. Don't rely on that. Be sure you look at the Google maps. I don't think the Google errors are intentional, but simply a result of irresponsible cartography. Quote Link to comment
+Stormy70 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I went out and did my first 3 ever caches last night in the desert here in Vegas(got to love the desert at night in the winter(36 degrees), not much moving around that can hurt you and very peaceful). 2 were very easy and gps brought me to under 10' or less if possible(I swear it was within 3' of both). The other one took about 10 minutes to find and the GPS was off by about 20'. Just letting the other newbie know it can be well under 60' some of the time. Quote Link to comment
+joranda Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 So have you made it back to the cache location and try it again. Did you find it? Quote Link to comment
j2garnett Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 So have you made it back to the cache location and try it again. Did you find it? I emailed the cache owner. He is no longer in the area, and his cache carer is out of town, so he asked to me to check and make sure the cache is still there and not muggled, although we both feel it may have been. He sent me some pics of where exactly it is, so I'm going to go out, check the coordinates and make sure it is still there sometime this week. I'll let you guys know what I find. And thanks for all the great advice so far! (and I was going for the FTF, I'm competitive that way ) Quote Link to comment
+Rattlebars Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Post a pic here right now. Was it a pic of a parking lot? That's what the coordinates show. Quote Link to comment
CachingWithCanines Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 I am quite new with only 11 finds but I can tell you that I have already had a few DNF's to report, although I usually have been able to go back and find them. As others have said, think like a person hiding a cache. Some are very hard, and others are pretty easy. I have definately found that I will have more success if there is another set of eyes looking with me. Also, I have learned not to rely completely on the GPS. It has been pretty good so far but has been misleading sometimes due to heavy cloud coverage. Start with easy caches, although I am working on a cache listed as level 1 difficulty and I am going out on my third try this week. The GPS can be off by up to 60 feet, but that is quite rare. My GPS is usually pretty accurate and more often than not will bring me within 20 feet of the cache, and it is a fairly basic model. Remember not to get discouraged just because of one DNF. Once you find your first one it will all be worth it. Good luck, and happy caching! Quote Link to comment
j2garnett Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 Post a pic here right now. Was it a pic of a parking lot? That's what the coordinates show. No, it's not of the parking lot. Quote Link to comment
+Crew 153 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 You don't have too many out there at the Alice to find. Google Maps shows 16 caches in the area. Shouldn't take you too long to find them all. Then you will have to place a few of your own. Make sure that they are at spots which would be of interest to the tourists as you will find that at least 90% of the finds will be out-of-towners. Also don't make them mystery or hard multis as you will find that visitors will ignore them. You might like to contact the other cachers in Alice - WaddlesK and Parente - A joint FTF with them might be the way to go. Quote Link to comment
j2garnett Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 I found it! It's there. Thanks to Way-Finder for pointing me in the right direction. It's a great spot Quote Link to comment
+angevine Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 One method I've found useful is to ask yourself, "if I were placing a cache here, where would I put it?" It's not infallible, but it can sometimes jolt you into looking at things differently, thinking differently, and a change in perspective can sometimes make all the difference. Other posters are right: the ubiquitous UPS (unusual pile of sticks) can be a dead giveaway; but there are other things that can look ever so slightly out of place if you stay there long enough. Try *not* looking, try just being there, looking around, noticing things. Sometimes when you get a sense of the place -- its aura, for want tof a better word -- you can find the one thing that doesn't belong there. -- Jeannette (angevine) Quote Link to comment
+mk21cb Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 want to try disapointed you should look here GC17T7C Quote Link to comment
Rostropovich Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Congrats on Your first find and way to stick with it. Keep it up. Quote Link to comment
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